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I thought Dorsey had a mostly legitimate game plan going into this game. The Bills OL was way overmatched, so they had a ton of short, quick throws to Cook, Diggs, Knox, Hardy and Kincaid in the plan, as well as quick hitting runs inside and to the edge. Sprinkle in a few deep balls and try to make a big play or two.
The Jets basically just said, “Fine, go ahead. Allen will lose patience with that.” And they were 100% right. Allen played like a rookie. He panicked when the initial read wasn’t there, ran into sacks and hits, and threw ridiculously I’ll advised passes.
My main problem with Dorsey is that Allen’s play had been on a steady downward trajectory since Daboll left.
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On 9/6/2023 at 4:41 AM, DrPJax said:
Hey buddy, good to see you post prior to the season. You are always a very knowledgeable, and realistic fan and i always enjoy you in the shout box. I was just watching SIMS and FLORIOS podcast about their final predictions of the AFC EAST.
Surprisingly, BOTH PREDICTED THE BILLS to finish THIRD OR FOURTH in the division. Sims has always been extremely pro ALLEN. BOTH stated they see turmoil on the team based on DIGGS and the poor preseason play. They cited the entire divisions very difficult schedule making for a rough year. However, they both felt the team , by proxy BEANE, has not done enough, especially offensively by not adding other playmakers ( like Hopkins, Cook, despite drafting Kincaid etc. BTW their words not mine) and again just expect JOSH to be Superman and overcome talent deficiencies. They felt both the JETS & FINS have great rosters now. They cited aging players like VON etc as a weakness that could go either way , but needs addressing. They went as far to say they both expect the BILLS to miss the playoffs and FLORIO barely contained himself from saying the PATS would overtake the BILLLS for third place , but felt he couldn’t go that far to formally say that.
Florio did say if the BILLS miss the playoffs, he expects big and sweeping changes in the organization. They really feel the PROCESS/ BEANE have dropped the ball and so far missed the SB window during this time, implying they have not won it all with a great franchise QB unlike the success the chiefs and even the success the Bengals have had (my summary from their prior feelings about Mahomes/burrows. Again, should the BILLS strugggle , they believe changes WILL happen. This is a big change from prior years, esp for SIMS, but he really sees them as not making the playoffs.
Having followed the BILLS since ‘63 , i watched them do poorly in the preseason LEVY years, then do well. Mcd is not like LEVY, he usually expects good effort /performances , yet i never felt the preseason mattered greatly to him, but still more than it meant to Levy. However , coming off last season where despite wins, IMHO there were big issues developing and it culminated with CINCY. The Steelers preseason game was abysmal , the last preseason game the first team O looked ok but against a very developing BEARS team.
Something just feels different when guys like SIMS, who is pretty tied in and knowledgeable , is pointing out it feels like this front office just doesn’t get it with needing to provide proven offensive talent around JOSH. Predicting his BOY BLUE to miss them playoffs is a big change. I think it comes down to Dorsey’s development, and JOSH finally proving he can take the int/turnover issue seriously and be willing to take short open throws ( which i am not convinced he will ever accept as a premise based on his past years of missing very open short routes) If they perform offensively similarly to the final part of last year, those bad predictions could very well come true.
Just wondered what you thought; are you surprised someone like SIMS and Florio think the beane /mcd team could be in trouble, despite extensions, with a missed playoff season? Surprised they see the roster with some very significant weaknesses ( have to admit I’m not sure Von. White ,Hyde, poyer are still the same game changers they were), esp compared to the jets/fins ?
I’m really not sure what to expect , but i do feel mcd is coaching for his BILLS future. Should they have any gaffs like 13 sec again ( 10 players for first play in Pitt is a red flag for a vet coach /staff imo with 12 penalties as well), an owner cant keep wasting a talent like ALLEN, and missing the playoffs should be a changing point. I thought McD could be a TOMLIN like coach , but you have to get there at least and win one sometime or that is a mute comparison.
I think we will get an indication pretty quickly. This team was mentally out of the Cincy game and unfortunately , this franchise has never won a Lombardi, and they have experienced blowing games in the playoffs where they had leads and looked to be in control. IMO, they need to prove mentally they are past last years collapse. It seems concerning that insiders ( I WAS REALLY SHOCKED SIMS PICKED THEM 3RD in division) are actually stating there is something not right , some behind the scene real issues holding this team back. It’s speculation/opinion, but is very pervasive this year. When you see younger coaches of the EAGLES/ BENGALs having achieved further team goals than mcd/beane , it’s a fair question if they have a philosophy that could actually bring a SB to Buffalo. Here’s hoping we somehow pull out a win against the jets to quiet the press. But , hey , it’s just football , and it’s just good entertainment , not life affecting issues. More importantly, hoping you are well and you have an enjoyable season watching!
Good to hear from you too!
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I can see the Bills finishing third as a possibility, although I don't think it's likely. No way they finish below the Patriots. I think the issue is that there are a lot of good teams in the AFCE now and the Bills play a really tough schedule. There may also be an emotional let down after failing to reach the Super Bowl the past three years when they had a legitimate shot to do so talent-wise. But the roster is still strong and Beane's done everything he can with the salary cap situation so I don't blame him. I think that when you reach a certain point, it just comes down to luck.
One subtle shift that may pay dividends is that you can see that the Bills are trying to become more physical... bringing in power RBs, interior OL, looking to play more 2 TE formations, running a more aggressive scheme on defense. To me that has been a serious weakness with the pass happy offense and cover 2 nickel happy defense that they've been playing.
I'm really looking forward to the opener. I think the Jets have a lot more riding on it that the Bills. If the Bills beat the Jets, in NY, on 9/11, with all the Jets off season hype, it will deal such a serious blow to the Jets psyche that it may derail their entire season. lol.
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10 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:
On the Wall of Fame? No. Ergo, no.
Wasn't the original quote looking for a DE who "turned into a monster"? It didn't mention WOF. I would say that neither Hanson nor Schobel were "monsters", but they are equivalent to each other, IMO. The only reason Schobel isn't on the wall is because those Bills teams he played on were mediocre. He's at least as qualified as Phil Hansen.
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1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said:
WOFer Phil Hanson
Aaron Schobel?
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I wonder if the OP sees any irony in the title of this post? It was a phrase coined former VP Agnew to mock the media for criticism and negative coverage of himself and the Nixon administration. Ironically, it turns out that the criticism was mostly warranted since both he and Nixon were criminals. Now it is being used to mock fans who are critical of the Bills…
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4 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:
QB is the most important position. QB was the Jets' issue last year. The rest of their roster is ridiculously talented. This shouldnt be news to anyone following the division.
Exactly. So having a deep roster doesn't mean bupkis compared to having a good QB, and therefore who cares how many players the Jets, the Bills or the 49ers got poached? It doesn't really equate to wins.
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4 hours ago, FilthyBeast said:
Pretty sad this worthless bum couldn't even make the Colts roster. I'm sure some fans here still actually believe he's a legit NFL player.
Shows you how good an OC Daboll was.
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2 hours ago, BuffaninSarasota said:
It's not chest-thumping when it's a statement of fact. It means that others are recognizing the Bills depth and quality of the organization.
I don’t understand the tweet. The Jets were 7-10 last season, so having the most players poached didn’t mean they had a great roster. Maybe their scrubs were better than those on some other teams I guess.
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1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
Side note: what did Klein do to piss Beane off so much?
some harsh language here!
“With us terminating A.J. (Klein), we felt (good about) Christian getting in here, getting our system,” Beane said.
Maybe Klein didn’t think he got a fair opportunity to win the starting MLB job and was vocal about it.
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It paid off having crappy MLBs. Kirksey probably saw the roster and decided that this was the place for him.
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25 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:
Boogie isn't very good. Why would there be interest in Boogie with all due respect.
At least Beane cut his losses.
Next on the list is AJE and Elam.
Maybe we can swap seventh round picks in 2030 with someone for them.
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18 minutes ago, Airseven said:
I'm kind of surprised this is being taken so lightly.
An OL that has been shaky all training camp, and looked pretty bad vs the Steelers, may lose a starter for the first few weeks of the regular season and people are mocked for being concerned. 😂
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The other thing that concerned me, which no one is mentioning, is that the starting DL seems unable to generate a pass rush without blitzing or a protection breakdown. They just don’t beat the guys in front of them.
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8 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said:
Also looks like Josh is still leaving clean pockets far too early which invites the rush and shortens the field. He’ll have to learn to trust this version of the OL, but with Spencer and Dion on the edges giving up pressures to nameless guys, it’s a lot to ask.
He does not have any confidence in his OL. Probably with cause. His running ability is great but he is going to it too quickly.
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Dodson got steamrolled at the los. And it looked like the parachute came out for Poyer.
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11 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
They’ll likely go with AJ Klein as the failsafe. Hopefully Klein has tread left. Dodson doesn’t look capable of being the run downs MLB.
I thought playing the run was supposed to be Dodson’s strength. He was terrible against the pass last season.
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How could Kyle Allen and Matt Barkley have possibly “graded out the same”? If that’s the case then I seriously question the grading system. More likely, IMO, is that they really want Allen to win the job so they are talking him up and giving him every opportunity.
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No surprises to me except Settle ahead of Ford.
it’s a solid roster except for MLB. I hope that doesn’t hurt them too bad.
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6 hours ago, warrior9 said:
You took Beasley not wanting to get a vaccine that was forced upon him as him being anti-gov? What a world we live in.
Any citations of Rodgers being anti-government or are you just spewing what ESPN tells you?
Just do a Google search for Aaron Rodgers conspiracy theories and you’ll get quite a treasure trove.
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12 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:
Maybe Boogie's fit would be best as a DE in a 3-4 D?
That’s probably his natural position and the Bills may be able to dupe some 3-4 team into a trade, but ultimately you have to beat the guy in front of you, no matter what DL position you play, and Basham doesn’t seem to do that very often.
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18 hours ago, Bangarang said:
Imagine a scenario where Andy Reid gets fired too and we hire him to be our OC with BB as our DC!?
Like when the NY Giants had Vince Lombardi as OC and Tom Landry as DC.
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13 hours ago, AuntieEm said:
Well I know we had other 1st rounders on defense I meant on the dline with him.
In a 3-4 defense, the OLBs are basically the same as Von Miller or Hughes are/were in the 4-3.
Bennett-Still-Smerlas-Smith-Talley … a #1 overall, two #2 overalls, and two 2nd round picks. A lot of investment, and for my money, the best defensive front the Bills have ever had.
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13 hours ago, The Jokeman said:
LB Conlan, Jim Jeffcoat and Ted Washington were 1sts, Smerlas, Hansen were 2nds. Toss in Henry Jones was a 1st and the constant influx of CBs that were 1sts. Bruce has talent around him. Mind you the best pass rusher he played with Paup was a 6th.
Better than Bennett you think? Bennett was a #2 overall pick and had a much longer track record of success than Paup, who only really had the one great year for the Bills.
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9 hours ago, CaptnCoke11 said:
I can’t seem them having Hines, Harris, Cook and Murray all active game day
Two carries for each of them
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Can James Cook break a tackle, ever?!?!
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Cook will never break a lot of tackles. Unfortunately, he’s not that elusive either. He has good speed and good hands. If he puts on some size, it will help his pass blocking, which isn’t great, and he can be a pass game specialist. My main problem with Cook yesterday was that he got the ball way too many times, which it’s not his fault. He’s not Marshall Faulk. Harris and/or Murray should have been more involved. That’s on Dorsey, IMO.