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NE had turned down 2 FGs right by going for it on 4th? If we win this by 6 or less it aint gonna feel right.

That was ugly

Not great awareness on Woods on the Wilfork block

Now that made me laugh

Was that the year McLovin fumbled?

I did its scary.

Got away with a hands to the face on that sack

Nobody sets the edge worse than Manny Lawson

CJ cant block and Orton should of got rid of that after he initially got away.

Orton looks good today

Wow misdirection from Nate.

^This

Somebody want to cover 84

Thats the problem with Bills fans, we're just too demanding. The Steeler fans Im around everyday tell me that......never.

We had to do it because he didnt want to be here At least they tried Its too soon to judge it, NFL historians are still debating it. The Raiders got lucky Did I miss any?

Not this. We rip our coaches for being too conservative...see Jauron/Marrone. We rip the FO for being reckless and making stupid trades see trading up for JP Losman, John McCargo, trading Lynch for Hairston/Carder, trading All-Pro Peters for Wood, and debatably giving up too much for WR Watkins in a deep WR draft. The McGahee trade didnt net much, Lee Evans was traded for Ron Brooks and I know you will point out the Hughes trade--yes that was a good trade but if we dont re-sign him it wont mean a lot in the long run.

This I agree with. Looking at the QBs for AFC playoff teams---Brady, Mannning, Luck, Rivers, Roethlisburger, Flacco, etc., it was a foolish to think you were going to get there with the lot of EJ, Thad Lewis and Tuel. This team wasnt a Sammy Watkins away from the playoffs, we are several players away. I dont think anybody is arguing Watkins is a bust, that's a strawman arguement. The question is simply did we give up too much. I would say yes...If the all rookie team is just a starting lineup, then Sammy doesnt make the team over ODB, Evans or Benjamin. He will make a AFC all rookie team. Everybody knew this was a deep WR draft, it wasnt the year to move up to get one, it was a year to stand pat and let the draft come to you. I say this a lot in my posts, but I compare the Bills organization to the Steelers, one successful and one not successful, and try to compare what we do that they dont. To me, the Steelers dont panic and let the draft come to them. Need a QB--Big Ben, a safety-Polamalu, TE-Miller, a G-Decastro, RB-Bell, C-Pouncey, etc. You rarely seem them trade up or panic. The Bills on the other hand fall in love too much with one player and frequently over draft that player or they panic. For example I feel confident the Bills could of traded down again, got another pick and still got EJ, spare me the Eagles BS. They panic for a QB, trade extra picks for JP and miss Rodgers the next year, they think they know more than other teams and take Whitner over Ngata, and it goes on and on.

We're not the worst!!!!!!

Knee jerk reactions to defend anything this team has done while we miss the playoffs for 15 straight years. Or lets not re-hash the past. This is a message board devoted to one team 24/7/365, sorry but we're going to talk about the past, present and future of this team. Throwback uniforms other than the Chargers

Good article, it gives a deeper understanding to what your eyes were seeing all year. Seems a lot easier to take the next step to the playoffs by improving the line rather than pipe dreaming about some quarterback. Im all for drafting another one this year, I just wouldnt expect him to step in and improve over what we did. If you take Orton's numbers and take them out over 16 games you would get 4100 yards passing 24 tds and 15 ints. I dont think there's anbody we can realistically get who is going to do better than that. With improved line play could Orton get to 30tds....maybe. With improved line play could we rush for more TDs than we did, without question. That should translate to more wins and the playoffs. I agree with other posters, the OL coach has got to go.

The guy has been one of the top 3 most productive backs in the NFL the last 4 years. He's missed one game in 5 years.....so much for the suspension crap. I'll take Marshawn and a SB trophy you can have Chris Kelsay and Ryan Denney.

The guy has almost 1600 rushing/receiving yards and 16 tds on the season.....care to share the 10 guys you think are better?

If you think trading Marshawn Lynch for Chris Hairston and Tank Carder was good then you dont know what you're talking about.

I dont think that much. He sucks, we made mistake....move on. Nothing like Fitz/Stevie bonus money.

Can't argue with what you are saying. If it wasnt for the talent on D and Schwartz this team would be 4-12.