May Day 10

I have given the reason 10x. The cobblestone district and arena are set back away from the highway, with some minor roads and cross-streets with a number of stoplights to get back to the only real route out of there. From most lots, you even need to make some turns (along with a thousand other people). It results in grid-lock cascading all the way back into the lots in the event of a game that everyone stays until the end. There is also no passable public transit option. You can plainly see it in the 3rd period of a Sabres game, even when its close. People bail to get a jump out of there and there are many blue seats. In order to correct this for a cobblestone or perry projects stadium, it will cost hundreds of millions. Other cities have the stadium and lots butting up against an interstate, sometimes 2 (like the mentioned Ogden St location). Cars get to the access of the highway from the lots and fan out quickly, with a little aid from police to direct traffic smoothly. Most of the cities named have a robust city-proper population and a formidable public transit system. Many people do not use/need vehicles. Leaving a Bills game now isn't optimal, but it is much better than a Sabres game, even with many more vehicles. You have a grid of major roads with multiple lanes that pass by most lots (Abbott, 20A, Southwestern). That gets people moving in a relatively reasonable amount of time.

This one is also a tough one. Corey Hirsch https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/corey-hirsch-dark-dark-dark

I have followed the Malarchuk story along his path, and incredibly proud of how he has survived... and also how he has channeled his struggles into helping countless people.

The city doesnt collapse after sabres games, but it is very inconvenient. I find myself leaving in the 2nd intermission more and more and the traffic situation can be a deciding factor for me to stay at home.

still 1000% happy with my decision to drop DTV

That S Ogden Street Site could work transportation-wise because the lots' egress could marry up with the 190, and you also have 90 there for easy escape anywhere.

No "growth" comes from a football stadium. Its proven fact. I dont think a broke county/city/state should pay hundreds of millions in upgrades for a football stadium if "growth" from it is the goal. In Pittsburgh, there is stuff there because the ballpark.... and it is a nice, affluent city If we had fortune 500 company(s) downtown and people were moving in there, thats great. Now, its hipsters. The only people who work in buffalo seem to be government workers and m&t. All the stuff down there is window dressing until the city lands a white whale or 2 to be headquartered there If we can press a button and a $700 Million stadium costs the same in Orchard Park.... and it would be the same price crowbarred in downtown, then that is great. I would agree it should be downtown. However, it isn't the case. Land acquisition, infrastructure, and roadways/rail system are going to need major work, and you also have a lot of issues with environmental studies, possible industrial legacy waste, etc. In all, you could be talking more than double the cost, with little tangible benefit to the downtown area for the $. All I am saying, is I predict in these studies, they are finding that building a new stadium on adjacent land in Orchard Park will allow them to get more bang for their buck as far as a facility goes, with far less red tape. They could be looking at paying $750 Million for a new stadium and asking the Public to provide $750 Million in upgrades almost solely to service this stadium. This is much more than 'wah, I want tailgating'.

Hopefully this "rail" they build has some stops on grand island

Thats good you have an in-house 'guy'. We got a second dog when the first one was mid-aged. It was alright, but the younger dog kind of dominated the older dog a bit, and she had a little too much energy for him. I feel he was happier when he was the only dog and getting 100% of the attention, treats, not competing for bones, etc. When the 1st dog got into old age, he got diabetes. It was quite a bit of medical costs, frequent vet visits, a few emergency situations. Also factor in the routine stuff like heartworm preventative and if you use frontline or similar and then double it with 2 dogs. So we couldnt really have anyone watch the dogs and administer the appropriate insulin doses 2x a day. There are only a few boarding places who offer this, and they charge a little extra. Then add in a second dog. A week's family vacation, we could come home to a bill for like $700. Dog #1 passed away, and we miss him... but the financial (and care) aspect is gone. We still look at the local rescue places.... but overall, Im not sure we get another dog. It is so much easier with 1, and the costs are much better. Dog #2 is now middle-aged and she seems to really like being the center of everything.

I dont care if its uber, lyft, horse and buggy, rickshaws, palanquins, or liberty cab. The street pattern out of perry street/cobblestone is the same single lane gridlock going in 1 to 2 directions. I would bet a large majority of people who attend bills games live outside the city limits as well. Unlike other cities. I have been to plenty of venues across the country, and most of them are tucked into an interstate(s). Drivers empty out right onto the highway and disappear. Its not that i am against a downtown stadium. Ill probably be 50 by then and ready for a go out for a beer, then attrnd a game experience. I just believe the cost and heavy lift of putting a stadium downtown is much more prohibitive than building one in orchard park by the existing one.

Expensive. Boarding for a week is staggering for 2 dogs Vet bills x2 also

Quick search says 1st day of school in el paso is august 12th. Probably a lot of school shopping

I would love mls, but its a pipe dream here... and cart before the horse.

Baseball 81 dates in the summer is not comparable of 8 dates, many of them in poor weather

I think the logistics of holding games elsewhere (most likely) as well as the structural limitations make a full reno a somewhat unlikely option and increase the costs. I would think the delta between building a new Heinz/FirstEnergy/CenturyLink stadium at an adjacent lot versus a renovation of NEF is fairly small. Small enough for it to be slam dunk to just start from scratch with a new shiny facility

This was my point in the other most recent stadium thread. If you look at most downtown stadiums, them and their lots are most often located right at an interstate or sometimes even two. Lots all basically empty out almost directly to an onramp. These things flush out very quickly. I was at a concert in Philly at the same time as a World Series game. They both ended at fairly similar times and we were out of there and cruising on a highway in under 5 minutes. The arena in Buffalo, and to a greater extent, cobblestone, are set away from the 190. There is not a viable route to go South, and the skyway/rte 5 is an inattainable unless you head back into the city and then double back. New Era Field isn't awful because you have main multi-laned streets heading out in all directions. It isnt optimal, but I have had harder times leaving Sabres games.

IMO, the best answer is a new facility in the vicinity of New Era Field. The cost between a decent one and a renovation is probably not much.

We are past the critical mass of restaurants and breweries without a fortune 500 company(s). Also, I wouldnt want to see all the independently owned restaurants and breweries to be snuffed out by McFaddens and other large scale sports bars that are likely to open in a new NFL facility. Third.... San Diego vs Buffalo. I love Buffalo, but I will acknowledge there are many things San Diego has going for it that we do not.

This. There really aren't many worthwhile things in Buffalo that an indoor football facility would handle that the arena cannot. I have been harping on a nice amphitheater downtown, similar to the Molson Amphitheatre. That would draw in a lot of people up to 80 dates a year. Ultimately, we need at least 1 (or more) fortune 500 companies to be headquartered downtown.

I agree with these. Between land acquisition and infrastructure, we could be talking doubling the cost of the stadium. The benefits to the downtown 'foot traffic' are very minimal as proportioned with the investment.

this reminds me of this I caught a year ago

this was when Jimmy Johnson threw boxes of Flutie Flakes in the lockerroom and stomped on them

At&t tv now is an awful name

The great thing is most everything is streaming, so think of a netflix-type situation. My wife likes "this is us". She doesnt watch it live, the new episode is added immediately to watch.... or any other episode previous. These services also offer dvr functions. I know they are somewhat limited, as it is cloud-based, so you can't hoard 500 hours of content. Hulu Live gives me 50 hours, but i think i could pay more for larger storage. If its 9 o clock and i turn on the 7:00 indians game, it automatically starts me from the beginning of the game.

so many possibilities for the NFL and streaming. the 'sunday ticket' model is so antiquated. Pay per week, per game, per team, etc, as well as offer all sorts of historic games, nfl film content, features, etc.