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  1. How many local Bills season ticket holders would be willing to cross the border on game day? Consider that.

     

    Who cares? There are over 6 million people in the Greater Toronto Area to draw from and only 32 NFL teams in the world. All current Bills season ticket holders could turn in their tickets and the team would be just fine.

  2. It would still be Buffalo Bills .... 49ers moved out of SF to the South Bay ~ Santa Clara / San Jose area (40 miles south) and will still be called the San Francisco 49ers. I don't see a change for Buffalo if this were to happen.

     

    The article makes it seem (I understand it's mostly speculation and not anything imminent) that the change would be some sort of compromise to appease the rich guys who don't want to own the "Buffalo Bills," but can't move the team as far away as they want.

  3. wouldnt this violate the NFL/NHL rule out of market... with 2 cities now? Both Leafs and Bruins owners owning the Bills?

     

    The article mentions the Bruins thing and says it would have to have Jacobs' youngest name on it and not Jeremy's. The best I can guess since the Toronto connection isn't addressed in the article is that because the Maple Leafs are technically corporate owned that it wouldn't violate the league rule. Or maybe the writer is just speculating and left that part out because it would ruin his whole theory.

     

    *edit*nevermind. bandit is right.

  4. Niagara Bills sounds terrible. Not just because it would be taking the city of Buffalo out of the the name, but because it makes no sense. Neither would the logo. The logo already has nothing to do with the team name. Rename them the Niagara Bills and it has nothing to do with anything. Might as well just completely rename and rebrand them at that point.

  5. While anything can be interpreted diffrently and the commissioner can change things the NFL relocation rules state that a team that is well supported can not simply relocate a team to make more money.

     

    " Article 4.3 also confirms that no club has an "entitlement" to relocate simply because it perceives an opportunity for enhanced club revenues in another location. Indeed, League traditions disfavor relocations if a club has been well-supported and financially successful and is expected to remain so. Relocation pursuant to Article 4.3 may be available, however, if a club's viability in its home territory is threatened by circumstances that cannot be remedied by diligent efforts of the club working, as appropriate, in conjunction with the League Office, or if compelling League interests warrant a franchise relocation. "

     

    http://m.startribune.com/?id=148181325

     

    There are a lot of things that would have to happen for the team to simply up and move. Not saying it can't happen but the area can do a lot to try to keep the team right here. No matter who buys it.

     

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    The league has already said the team needs a new stadium in Buffalo. If something firm cannot be put together here but one of the bidders emerges with a plan that involves a new stadium there's no reason for the league not to support that move.

  6. That cannot be anything other than good for Buffalo, which was the #11 TV market in the league last year:

     

    http://www.bizjourna...tv-ratings.html

     

    I'm far from a ratings expert, so someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that really comparing apples to oranges? Yes the Bills have high TV ratings for the area because so many people in Buffalo watch the team on Sundays, but even if the team had slightly lower ratings in a bigger area they'd still (in theory) be reaching more people than they are in Buffalo. And reaching more people means more money for advertising etc.

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    My point here being that there are many financial reasons for an NFL owner to want to move to a big market area but that doesn't necessarily mean that the NFL(the other 31 owners) will make more money out of a team moving locations. If there is no significant new revenue for the NFL I doubt they would give the okay for a team to move.

     

    That's a good point. It might make more sense from individual owner's standpoint to pay whatever is necessary to get the team and move them to LA or Toronto or wherever, but like that article I posted earlier about the expansion fees said the NFL could be splitting over $2 billion the next time they add two more teams whereas the relocation fee to move the Bills would probably less than a quarter of that.

     

    I do think if the team stays in Buffalo that it will lead to expansion in a few years with some of the out of town suitors getting that consolation prize.

  8. He'd have to pay relocation fees instead. Make no mistake: the cost of moving this team is astronomical.

    Based on what the NFL said the relocation fee would be for LA in 2011: http://www.footballphds.com/2011/12/19/nfl-in-la-relocation-fees-for-los-angeles-currently-at-275-million/ and the estimated expansion fee in 2012 http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2012/02/04/nfl-owners-to-split-over-2-billion-when-league-adds-two-teams/ a potential owner looking to relocate would be paying a slightly more most likely, but if they are that rich it's worth it to have the guarantee of getting the team now whereas who knows when the league might be expanding again.

  9. San Diego, Jacksonville, St. Louis.

     

    But as far as I know those teams aren't for sale, which is why billionaires are starting to line up to bid on the Bills regardless of how difficult it may be to move them. That's what lawyers are for. And I don't think the Bills are so "storied" as to make them untouchable. The Browns have a history that goes back further than the Bills and history has been pretty kind to Art Modell outside of Cleveland. I'm sure an owner moving the Bills would love to leave behind the history of the team like Modell did and get to start over in whatever city he wants without having to pay expansion fees.

  10. Google dude

     

    Is there some kind of connection I'm missing? Are people bringing him up just because he's rich? Also, assuming he is interested in the team, why would he keep the team in Buffalo beyond the current lease? For that matter when you're worth more than $30 billion you can probably afford the penalties of breaking the lease early.

  11. I would like 17 or 83. Better looking numbers than 16 (no disrespect to the number of you who appear to have worn it at some point). My guess is that Reed is trying to convince Watkins to take 83, and he's thinking about it.

     

    I have a MD jersey, but will prob get a Watkins jersey. And if he takes 83, perhaps a Watkins and Reed throwback one.

     

    Why would Andre Reed be trying to convince Watkins to wear 83?

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