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59 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Beane again very clearly stated that if at 28 the first round graded WR's on their board are gone, they will take another position and take talent over reaching and look at the 2nd to potentially add a WR.
Ooof. I mean it's the right thing to do.
I'm all for a trade up but I think we need to face that the Bills leverage is not great.
If the boathouse is stripped bare, we shouldn't go and get the 10th best receiver when the team can go back to the 33-38th range and get the 12th best receiver the youth movement can begin
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19 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:
McConkey probably doesn't get past KC at #32
Fine. Taking him at 28 would have been a wince and a nod for me while we had Diggs.
Dude looks like a potential good WR2. I ain't putting him out as a starting #1
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3 hours ago, Roundybout said:
I would have been fine with that until Diggs was shipped off.
If they get him in the third round as a double up, that's fine.
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4 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
That's pretty much where I am, though clearing the cap space and getting *something* raises my grade.
Ehh, only if you count 2025 because the team loses 3 million this year. Which, if you want to make a case for 2024 being a hard rebuild I could have swallowed it, but if that was the case Beane should not have bothered bringing in street free agents. Why gobble up more cap room if the point is to purge the old guard and draft fresh?
The only thing I can imagine is Diggs did something Antonio Brown crazy that somehow was out of the news, and Beane had to ship him out for pennies on the dollar.
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Yeah, I don't think I need to wait on this one to make a call.
While some of the Diggs criticism was legit, the man had four consecutive 1,000+ yard seasons. That's every year we has with us.
Was he on the downside of his career? Decent odds. But you cannot tell me that he didn't have some gas left in the tank and couldn't be used in 2024 and 2025.
I was dumbfounded when I heard "a second round pick". I was floored when I found out it was for 2025 AND gave up a 5th and 6th this year.
Beane gave up picks. To take on cap space. To see no benefit until 2025. And in doing so created a massive hole on the roster and make everyone and their mother know the Bills need a WR1 and strangling our leverage. If this move would be done, at least wait until draft day.
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5 hours ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:
For the love of god, how thin skinned are some of you?
Yeah, Diggs is a drama llama and a bit of a ***** stirrer. I don't care. I don't remember him ever slagging off the team in public. The closest was his visible frustration on the sideline at how poor the game planning and execution for the offense was for the Bengals game which...same.
Remember when he posted a heart emoji, and then "Ready for Whatever" and people assumed he was trying to force his way off the team? Some people got an idea fixed in their head and are going to interpret all evidence to that end, regardless of context.
This aged like milk on a hot summer day
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Well not it definitely has.
Don't worry, I made it through the drought, I can survive a year or two of retooling.
Midseason 2023 I was seriously considering a controlled demolition.
I'm ok with giving Brady a year to show what he can do, trying out some young guys and then hitting the accelerator in 2025.
But we better accept that.
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Welp, not anymore.
I would have loved him, but Beane just gutted the WR position.
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Just now, DrDawkinstein said:
How does Greg know all the financial details when they havent come out yet?
I'm not a cap expert, but I am pretty sure that a $3M cap hit is the MINIMUM the Bills would be taking. To my knowledge, no trade can account for monies already paid out as part of signing bonuses or restructures.
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Just now, Nephilim17 said:
I would not be shocked if we package our 2025 1st and other picks to get a top WR this year. The Bills likely feel that two 2nd rounders next year (many are saying the one we just got is the Vikings pick so it will likely be high) is fine without a first rounder.
I also predict that now Josh will be more assertive and take no ***** from anyone on the offense now. No one will yell at Josh on the sidelines; he is now the man. I honestly feel like Steph, personality wise, was the alpha dog on the offense. And Josh didn't want to get in Steph's face and was too deferential. But it should be the QB. And now it is.I mean is this is real, I don't see how the hell Beane waits until 28. Either he is 100% confident that he can get a guy in the 1st round, or the Bills window just closed.
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Are we sure that this isn't a very good hoax? Because that is such a massively bad deal and it's very uncharacteristic of Beane, especially after guarantees kicked in.
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For the love of god, how thin skinned are some of you?
Yeah, Diggs is a drama llama and a bit of a ***** stirrer. I don't care. I don't remember him ever slagging off the team in public. The closest was his visible frustration on the sideline at how poor the game planning and execution for the offense was for the Bengals game which...same.
Remember when he posted a heart emoji, and then "Ready for Whatever" and people assumed he was trying to force his way off the team? Some people got an idea fixed in their head and are going to interpret all evidence to that end, regardless of context.
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1 hour ago, Logic said:
As I just saw pointed out on Twitter:
Yes, the Jets got 29 year old Reddick, but they LOST 25 year old Bryce Huff who is coming off a career year with 10 sacks.
Reddick and Huff had an identical 22% pass rush win rate last year. Huff had one less sack on 289 (!) less rushes.
So the Eagles got the younger, arguably equally productive player by signing Huff, then turned around and took advantage of the Jets' sudden need for a pass rusher by trading them the older Reddick and getting a 2nd round pick and $10 million in cap space in return.
So the Jets added a good player in Reddick, yes, but its arguably a wash with having lost Huff, but they got older and gave up a premium pick to do it.
Howie Roseman win, Joe Douglas loss.Rumors were that Reddick was unhappy because he wanted a big extension and the Eagles weren't giving him because his best year was 4 years ago and while productive was seeing diminished returns
So hey Banner, load up on aging players on the decline
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2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
An immediate starter at WR2 with size/speed or both is likely to have the most impact on the team IMO
Of course, this staff would need to actually play the draft pick. Slow playing Cook, Kincaid and Shakir was annoying.If we take WR at 28 or higher, PLAY THEM IMMEDIATELY AND OFTEN!
I mean I don't disagree. But if there is a run on WR and there is just no one they like and there is a guy who should have been top 15, I'll take that and pick WR in the 2nd round.
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4 minutes ago, Virgil said:
It would be nice if some of them were younger and on longer deals. I don't think this takes DT off the draft board for us, but could let us kick the can down the road to next year.
At the least, I think it puts Beane in position to truly take BPA.
I may not *love* all of our starters, but seemingly everyone is at bridge-starter level. I might prefer a WR or DB, but if a game wrecker falls and they're a D-line or O-line piece, I can live with that.
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2 hours ago, eball said:
Hi. Welcome to The Stadium Wall.
I was literally thinking "Hey, a guy with a bit of production probably on a vet minimum contract. Won't affect the salary cap due to the rules. Worst case scenario he's a camp body. We'd have to really try to be upset about that"
And then some of us did.
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13 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
very interesting comment thereEspecially wth WR, I was critical of McConkey, but he's looking to fit the mold Beane wants
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In my mind, it is. Not because I expect Diggs to go anywhere anytime soon but for the following:
- I don't expect the Bills play/state of the AFC to drop off/surge enough that the Bills will be picking in the teens to low 20s anytime soon. This particular draft looks like one where it might be the only one for the next few years where the Bills are in position to draft someone who projects as one.
- Diggs' greatest strengths have never been elite measurables so much as above average one married to excellent route running and technique. He's been so good at it that he is a true WR1, but teams have devoted gameplan to doing their best to shut him down. He's not Tyreek Hill, where by pure speed he can get outside, or work in the backfield and get 30 yards. The best thing for him is to take pressure off so teams can't shift coverage to his side.
- I did not expect Diggs to go anywhere this offseason, and don't think it's likely that he goes anywhere in 2025, if I am looking down the road in 2026 he will be 33 and costing the Bills $28.5 million in cap space. While the top $'s for WRs is about to explode around then, that's a decent chunk of change to invest in a player on the downside of their career. I'd much prefer an insurance policy in the works.
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To get this out of the way: this isn't me claiming that I have any special juice about what's going in the war room. It also isn't an absolute path. If a player who has been forecasted in the top 10-15 is there for the taking in the 20s, I am even for a (reasonable) trade up. If Jared Verse, Brian Thomas or Adonai Mitchell (make your pick of who you think WR4 in the draft is) or whoever you think is an instant game wrecker, you take them.
However, as is often the case, I am seeing a bit of a glut around pick 20 on most mocks and Big Boards where plays transition from Week 1 Gamechanger to Week 1 Effective Starter. The truth is, with Beane at work, I don't think that there are any massive glaring immediate needs on the roster: Curtis Samuel can play outside enough that it's not critically dire. Epenesa, Groot and Miller are (in theory) a recent starting DE rotation. They have plenty of depth at LB, have theoretical starters in the secondary, the O-line is mostly intact, RB room is pretty full, and TE doesn't need more reinforcement.
Basically, while I think there are several places where the Bills could upgrade, there is at least a theoretical veteran that a rookie would need to take the job from. However, a lot of those contracts are short term, set to expire by 2026 and the team is already over the cap for 2025. If we can't get a gamewrecker, would we say no to another 3rd or 4th round pick if Beane lets someone trade in from the back end?
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I hear that penicillin clears that right up
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3 hours ago, NewEra said:
Agreed….but he must add some mass.
@Chandler#81 discusses Kincaid not breaking tackles and I think strength is the main culprit behind his lack of BTK. He looked to take pounding when he did lower his shoulder in the regular season. I was worried about injuring and was actively rooting for him to avoid hard contact. Hopefully an offseason in the weight room will give the kid the strength he needs to break more tackles.
I don't know about breaking tackles, but so many of the catches I've seen are dump off routes where contact his made at the moment of the catch and he still pushes forward for a few more yards. He especially carved out a niche for blitz beaters, as that became a big part of the gameplan near the end of Dorsey.
As a reminder, Gabe Davis was on the blitz beater in the Eagles game. You know the one.
Kincaid has things to work on for his game for sure. He can put on some muscle this offseason and work on his blocking technique, but if you look at Zach Ertz's first two years in the league Kincaid's production is right there.
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13 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:
This site is cool:https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/curtis-samuel/
For 2020 it has him in the slot 53% of the time.
8 hours ago, Doc said:
So 47% of the time outside. No reason it can’t go higher.My takeaway is that Samuel isn't out dedicated outside burner. However, he *can* play there and be productive. I am imagining a 3WR set with him and a rookie in a condensed formation where you don't know if one is going to cut inside or not.
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8 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:
He signed a one-year $3M contract with the Chiefs last year.
Seems he started after Bryan Cook got hurt.
KC let him walk so I think it's around a $2M+ contract, but hopefully less.
He does seem like a ball hawk. Hope McDermott can get him playing well for the D.
I think this makes a Safety in Day 1 or 2 less important.
I wouldn't hate it, but I think now the Bills are truly in position to take BPA and worry about backfilling the bandaids in the later rounds.
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3 hours ago, corta765 said:
This is where I am at. The media fawning over an organization that has constantly proven to be one of the worst for decades in football is astonishing. They get a benefit of the doubt in a way virtually no one else does because of NYC.
At a prism I do think they are actually bigger threat currently then Miami as I like a lot of the moves they made compared to Miami and I think they take Miami's playoff spot this year. The defense is solid and offense improved the line while having a good amount of playmakers. I don't think you will ever see MVP Rodgers again, but if he is even top half of the league they will win games and be a thing. With that said there are many reasons to legitimately question what they can do.
No league sells hope like the NFL in the offseason which is what makes it such a fun league.
I agree that Joe Douglas has made some nice picks and has done a decent job of teambuilding (exempting all of Aaron Rodger's buddies). I can't hate him too much for taking a swing on a former MVP QB, especially when he got the money kicked back. They are a legitimate team for 2024.
The problem is, if you look at all of their one year deals, they are soaking up the immediate cap space and putting it on the year where Rodger's cap hit goes up to $51 million. The moment that deal ends, they are looking at a major cap hits. If Rodgers hangs it up in '25, the Jets will have a $49 M cap hit to not have him on the team.
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Diggs trade aftermath...what this means for the offense, draft, other WR's still here...
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I'll come out and say it: at the moment the WR room is worse than what is was in 2019.
That's not to doom and gloom. There is still the draft. The Lions and Niners did amazing things with multi right end sets and Kincaid, Shakir and Samuel seem like ideal fits and the Bills have committed to Knox so we might as well use him.