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Well sure, no QB is perfect any year. But that's the fear of a QB with exceptionally small hands, right? It's no small thing (pun unintended).

The all-time leader in fumbles? That Dave Krieg? Culpepper was among the annual league leaders in fumbles, as well.

It's usually more difficult to determine when exactly the ball crossed the line depending on the camera angle. If the technology could correspnd to the various video angles, it should be fairly simple to view the knee--- or simpler, anyway.

There's a link in that NFL.com article referring to the Raiders refusing to let Terrelle Pryor wear Russell's jersey #2 --- it's almost like Jamarcus Russell's jersey has been retired by the Raiders: http://sportsillustr...terrelle.pryor/ Pryor, who is 6-foot-6, was wearing No. 6. Not the No. 2 jersey he wore at Ohio State. "Coach won't let me wear No. 2," he told a throng of reporters after practice. "Why? I don't know. You tell me. I'm just going off what coach tells me." Here's the answer to why coach Hue Jackson has good reason not to let Pryor anywhere near the No. 2 jersey. The last Raider to wear No. 2 was JaMarcus Russell. And the Raiders don't need any visible markers that put Pryor and their biggest quarterback bust in history in the same category.

Lame post.

It certainly goes a long way in explaining it. By pushing the narrative that Schefter was complicit in espousing how great of a hire Marrone is kind of goes too far towards an actual accusation that he was "bought off" in some way--- perhaps with the reward of the "scoop".

I didn't read the whole thread--- did Russ hand in the Bills' draft card yet?

What it boils down to is that one reporter--- Tim Graham--- is accusing another reporter--- Adam Schefter--- of lacking journalistic integrity. Do I have that right?

It does sort of sound like Brown is just sounding off on things that piss him off. You know who else was on the roster of the 2002-03 Raiders? That's right, Renaiah's cousin: Marques Tuiasosopo Apparently, when the Raiders got off to a 2-5 start the following season, Charles Woodson publicly accused Callahan of sabotaging the season, and Tim Brown agreed with the sentiment. I can't understand why an NFL Head Coach would possibly throw a Super Bowl or a season. This ESPN article from 2003 derails the infighting from that season, where Woodson, Charlie Garner and Tim Brown publicly griped about Callahan: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1695742 Charlie Garner sort of defends Brown: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/22/charlie-garner-agrees-with-tim-brown-sort-of/ While three teammates who have spoken out so far disagree with Brown (Rich Gannon, Bill Romanowski, Lincoln Kennedy), former Raiders running back Charlie Garner sees a little merit in Brown’s contention. “There may be something to what Mr. Brown has been saying,” told 97.5 The Fanatic in Philly. “I really don’t know the validity of which he despised the Raiders but I also know that he didn’t want to be there, too.” Regardless of the reason, Garner agreed that something happened. “We came out with another game plan and it just was not what we practiced. . . . We as an organization and as a team had been through a lot of adversity so we were accustomed to it. Had we just stuck to the original game plan, I believe that we would have been successful.”

Jerry Rice wasn't a role player on that team, in fact he was the leading receiver. 2002 was his 2nd season in Oakland. His stats those first 2 years were: 2001 - 83 rec, 1139 yds, 9 TDs 2002 - 92 rec, 1211 yds, 7 TDs I'm not saying I'm buying it ( I don't), but I have no idea how you can view Rice's comments as anything but corroboration of Brown's allegation.

This is what Rice told ESPN's Trey Wingo: “For some reason — and I don’t know why — Bill Callahan did not like me,” Rice said. “In a way, maybe because he didn’t like the Raiders, he decided, ‘Maybe we should sabotage this a little bit and let Jon Gruden go out and win this one.’” For Rice, a universally respected player who was named in a poll of experts conducted by NFL Network as the greatest player in NFL history, to say that he believes one of his former coaches actively wanted to lose a Super Bowl is shocking. ESPN’s Trey Wingo stopped Rice and asked him if he realized the magnitude of the accusation that Callahan once threw the Super Bowl. Rice said he understands the weight of his words. “Yeah, I know exactly what I’m saying,” Rice said.

Is it noteworthy that the Buffalo Bills official twitter account retweeted this link from Bills employee John Murphy, which is an article on the official Buffalo Bills website quoting Nassib at the Senior Bowl? Buffalo Bills ‏@buffalobills RT @johnmurphyshow: Nassib on Buffalo: "A match made in heaven" http://wp.me/plmrg-7jt Maybe it's just due diligence: Buffalo Bills ‏@buffalobills Mike Glennon on Bills, Senior Bowl http://ow.ly/2upH9n

How has Nassib jumped into the national conversation at QB? From the sounds of it, Nassib at 8 won't be considered a "reach" by the pundits--- not that the opinions of pundits means much: West Virginia quarterback Geno Smith didn't do enough this season to differentiate himself from NC State's Mike Glennon, Oklahoma's Landry Jones or Syracuse's Ryan Nassib. Those three are all here, and they might vault themselves past Smith with a good showing.

Former Sports Illustrated writer Joe Posnanski attempted an approximation of a Steve Tasker-Bill Bellichick postgame interview from last night's game had it occurred: Steve Tasker: "Bill, obviously that was a tough loss." Bill Belichick: "True, Steve. But it is so important to remember that to fall from a great height, you must first climb to that great height. I believe it was Steinbeck who wrote that it's so much darker when a light goes out than it would have been if it had never shone." Tasker: That was "The Winter of Our Discontent" wasn't it? Belichick: Yes. I find that Steinbeck comforts me in times like these. He had a deep understanding for losing. Also, now I think of the words of Anais Nin, whose journals I keep close for moments like these. I believe she said that we put off dying by living and risking and losing ... Tasker: Well, to be precise, I believe she said, "I postpone death by living, by suffering, by error, by risking, by giving, by losing." Belichick: Yes, that's the wording. Tasker: "Dreams are necessary to life." She said that too. Belichick: True words, Steve. Very true words. Tasker: What would you say to Ray Lewis right now? Belichick: I think instead of C.S. Lewis who said, "We cannot understand. The best is perhaps what we understand least." Tasker: Thank you Bill for your time and wisdom. Belichick: Of course Steve. And please tell Shannon Sharpe to $^&% #$*&.

Git'r'done, Buddy!!!

http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2013/01/21/arkansas-qb-likes-jim-kelly-comparison/ ESPN Draft Guru Mel Kiper made waves last week, when he compared Arkansas QB Tyler Wilson to Bills Hall of Famer Jim Kelly. “We all remember Jim Kelly when he came out of Miami he was recruited as a linebacker at Penn State,” Kiper said. “(Wilson) is a guy with an NFL arm and tremendous toughness. Under the previous coaching staff and with the talent around him, remember they lost their top three receivers from the prior year you expected this year to be a tough go and then he had an injury early on.” We had a chance to talk with Wilson today at the Senior Bowl, and asked him about Kiper’s comparison. “I heard that in the past week,” Wilson said. “Obviously, those are pretty good words. I got to go out and prove it this week and have a good week. That’s exciting though.”

This would be valid if the Patriots didn't go to 5 Super Bowls and win 3. Atlanta has won 1 playoff game. It's not really the same at all.

The Patriots are still winning convincingly on a regular basis and continue to be legitimate Super Bowl contenders in year 12 since their first Super Bowl win. The Steelers teams of the '70s fell off pretty quickly after their 4th Championship. The 49ers were pretty comparable as I said in another post, but by the time they won their 5th, Dallas had overcome them as the league's dominant franchise. My point was about consistency over the longhaul. The Patriots have been considered the NFL's "premier" franchise over the course of the past 12 years and the standard by which other team's are judged. Cheating almost certainly played a role, I wouldn't argue that. In fact, I'd argue in favor of it being a key factor leading to their success. Regardless, they and their fanbase have devolved into whiny bitches.

If you want to redefine the term "game manager" to broadly include any QB that has ever successfully executed an offense then yes, Tom Brady is a "game manager". This is fair. I can't really argue with any of it.

I didn't just mean the 3 Super Bowl wins, I meant the "dynasty" overall although it doesn't read that way. The 3 wins in 4 years was just the start but they've consistently dominated for 12 years, much longer then those other teams. The Cowboys tailed off pretty quickly. The 49ers extended run is probably pretty comparable.

To be fair, the link where Glennon goes to the Bills was a prediction of how he thought the 1st round would go, posted 12/18/12. The other more recent link is how the National Football Post team actually evaluated the QBs.

Dear god man, the points regarding a balanced offense are points that I first offered, not you. If that's what you meant from the getgo, then we agree. His passing statistics have gotten exponentially more impressive over time as have the passing statistics of the NFL as a whole. His "average" statistics in 2002-05 were excellent at the time. They would be slightly below average today. His statistics are higher in total today, but that has no bearing on how he was regarded comparatively around the NFL at the time. The Pats are running a different offensive system that is generating more yardage overall as the league has evolved into one dominated by offense. This isn't heady stuff. The top 5 QBs over the past 2 seasons have averaged approximately 5,000 passing yards each. That was unheard of from 2002-05 throughout the NFL. The argument you stated from the post I first quoted was that he was a game manager. That is really my only quibble. Also, touche does not mean what you think it does. Facts!

Fair enough. I'm not crazy about the Orwellian environment at OBD you portray but I certainly appreciate you disclosing it.

Yes. Reality, logic, facts, etc. Enjoy the tin foil hat.

Would you happen to know how common this is amongst other teams for this time of year in today's NFL?