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Geez, I kind of think it's ridiculous to beat this drum. I would guess the overwhelming feeling about Jauron is... apathy. I mean, who gives a ****? Jauron and Gailey were/are both good men and competent coordinators but their tenures in Buffalo were equally mediocre and largely forgettable. Gailey beat New England. Period. He earned a lot of capital with that win. That's his only edge, and it was probably a fluke. In the end, Gailey receives as much crap as Jauron as they both should--- but "most Bills fans" don't hate them. We're just happy to move on from the abyss of NFL Head Coaching mediocrity.

The 2nd bolded has nothing to do with wanting Jauron gone--- he was respected as a man and a coach for everything in the 1st bolded section, but he was entirely too passive. Coaching not to lose may have been his only option considering the talent on the team, and perhaps that will be his longterm legacy.

I knew the the Cleveland 1st round pick for Cousineau turned into Kelly, but not the rest. Excellent stuff, and a great assessment of how the Patulski pick continued to influence the franchise! I've mentioned this before on TSW, but the pick used by the Bills to select Cousineau was acquired from San Francisco in the trade for OJ Simpson. In a roundabout way, OJ was traded for Jimbo!

Huh?

Clearly, we're more or less in 100% agreement. I can't add anything to this post.

If Jarvis Jones could play at a dominant level for even only 3 seasons, he's worth the 8th overall pick. So long as the brain trust plans for that potential eventuality within that 3 year span. But if they feel strongly enough about any of these QBs (which remains to be seen) I'd say the QB has to be the pick. It's too important. It would be a shame to pick one of the QBs and have them strike out, so they have to be absolutely sure.

How can this be 6 years ago?? JP Losman was our QB when this happened. The crushing weight of time passing and our inability to stall it, ya know, sucks.

Pats fans did the same thing to Torrey when they played earlier in the regular season. It's curious that the only two incidents all year where opposing fans tweeted insults at Torrey Smith were Pats fans.

I'd like for the Bills to at least inquire ---- but assuming they're serious about using "football analytics" to determine market value efficiency, you're probably right and they'd almost certainly not make the trade.

There was a lot of speculation prior to the 2010 draft that Gronkowski had spinal stenosis, but it was never actually confirmed. FWIW, Gronk denies it. Jarvis Jones, on the other hand, has definitely been diagnosed with it.

The difference between the two is statistically insignificant--- although this is only total fumbles, not fumbles lost: Tyler Wilson - 0.008% of total touches Geno Smith - 0.013% of total touches I definitely like Wilson, although I can't say for certain how often he was stripped from behind while still in the pocket. You're right, he doesn't seem to have any issues throwing accurately on the run.

If everything else checks out, he should be drafted. It's not the be-all end-all, but it's a concern, IMHO.

That doesn't tell the whole story, though: Tyler Wilson: 948 pass attempts + 110 rushing attempts + 46 sacks = 1,104 total touches Geno Smith: 1,465 passing attempts + 245 rushing attempts + 78 sacks = 1,788 total touches 684 more total touches for Geno. Scramblers (Geno moves around more than Wilson--- not that he's a "runner") tend to fumble often if they don't protect the ball, but that is correctable for a young QB. Hand size is not.

I don't particularly like McShay, but: Todd McShay ‏@McShay13 Nassib's arm vastly overrated. Short/intermediate throws MPHs but struggles driving ball vertically on tape and see same at Senior Bowl.

Well sure, no QB is perfect any year. But that's the fear of a QB with exceptionally small hands, right? It's no small thing (pun unintended).

The all-time leader in fumbles? That Dave Krieg? Culpepper was among the annual league leaders in fumbles, as well.

It's usually more difficult to determine when exactly the ball crossed the line depending on the camera angle. If the technology could correspnd to the various video angles, it should be fairly simple to view the knee--- or simpler, anyway.

There's a link in that NFL.com article referring to the Raiders refusing to let Terrelle Pryor wear Russell's jersey #2 --- it's almost like Jamarcus Russell's jersey has been retired by the Raiders: http://sportsillustr...terrelle.pryor/ Pryor, who is 6-foot-6, was wearing No. 6. Not the No. 2 jersey he wore at Ohio State. "Coach won't let me wear No. 2," he told a throng of reporters after practice. "Why? I don't know. You tell me. I'm just going off what coach tells me." Here's the answer to why coach Hue Jackson has good reason not to let Pryor anywhere near the No. 2 jersey. The last Raider to wear No. 2 was JaMarcus Russell. And the Raiders don't need any visible markers that put Pryor and their biggest quarterback bust in history in the same category.

Lame post.

It certainly goes a long way in explaining it. By pushing the narrative that Schefter was complicit in espousing how great of a hire Marrone is kind of goes too far towards an actual accusation that he was "bought off" in some way--- perhaps with the reward of the "scoop".

I didn't read the whole thread--- did Russ hand in the Bills' draft card yet?

What it boils down to is that one reporter--- Tim Graham--- is accusing another reporter--- Adam Schefter--- of lacking journalistic integrity. Do I have that right?

It does sort of sound like Brown is just sounding off on things that piss him off. You know who else was on the roster of the 2002-03 Raiders? That's right, Renaiah's cousin: Marques Tuiasosopo Apparently, when the Raiders got off to a 2-5 start the following season, Charles Woodson publicly accused Callahan of sabotaging the season, and Tim Brown agreed with the sentiment. I can't understand why an NFL Head Coach would possibly throw a Super Bowl or a season. This ESPN article from 2003 derails the infighting from that season, where Woodson, Charlie Garner and Tim Brown publicly griped about Callahan: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1695742 Charlie Garner sort of defends Brown: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/22/charlie-garner-agrees-with-tim-brown-sort-of/ While three teammates who have spoken out so far disagree with Brown (Rich Gannon, Bill Romanowski, Lincoln Kennedy), former Raiders running back Charlie Garner sees a little merit in Brown’s contention. “There may be something to what Mr. Brown has been saying,” told 97.5 The Fanatic in Philly. “I really don’t know the validity of which he despised the Raiders but I also know that he didn’t want to be there, too.” Regardless of the reason, Garner agreed that something happened. “We came out with another game plan and it just was not what we practiced. . . . We as an organization and as a team had been through a lot of adversity so we were accustomed to it. Had we just stuck to the original game plan, I believe that we would have been successful.”

Jerry Rice wasn't a role player on that team, in fact he was the leading receiver. 2002 was his 2nd season in Oakland. His stats those first 2 years were: 2001 - 83 rec, 1139 yds, 9 TDs 2002 - 92 rec, 1211 yds, 7 TDs I'm not saying I'm buying it ( I don't), but I have no idea how you can view Rice's comments as anything but corroboration of Brown's allegation.

This is what Rice told ESPN's Trey Wingo: “For some reason — and I don’t know why — Bill Callahan did not like me,” Rice said. “In a way, maybe because he didn’t like the Raiders, he decided, ‘Maybe we should sabotage this a little bit and let Jon Gruden go out and win this one.’” For Rice, a universally respected player who was named in a poll of experts conducted by NFL Network as the greatest player in NFL history, to say that he believes one of his former coaches actively wanted to lose a Super Bowl is shocking. ESPN’s Trey Wingo stopped Rice and asked him if he realized the magnitude of the accusation that Callahan once threw the Super Bowl. Rice said he understands the weight of his words. “Yeah, I know exactly what I’m saying,” Rice said.