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Yes, the corners are not the problem; but by re-signing Greer and/or Winfield how many draft picks, including 1st rounders, could have been used on other positions of need? The last 10 years' worth of drafts have been like a game of musical chairs. Of course, even when they have drafted DL and LB they've missed by a country mile.

We got him from Philadelphia, then we sent him to Chicago when we couldn't sign him: Darwin Walker. Of course, the point remains... and he wasn't even worth the trouble!

I'm pretty sure he would restructure his contract if a team with a shot at the postseason was interested. Is it so obscene that it's essentially "unstructureable"?

It's incredibly tough, which is I why I had to admit I wouldn't even want all the players on my list as starters, necessarily (thinking of Poz). Sad, sad state.

(stands up, slow claps)

Spiller, Jackson, Wood, Levitre, and David Nelson. Posluzsny, Dwan Edwards, Terrence McGee, George Wilson, Jairus Byrd I'm not suggesting these are all starters, but they are as good as we have for various reasons. I like Kyle Williams but I'm afraid he doesn't quite fit in as a 3-4 T.

You made some good points regarding the contract not being quite as scary as it appears, though. That's worth something... unlike Kelsay.

Hey, jackass... when I mentioned the 50+ yard catch stat in the shoutbox I was being sarcastic. That's why I also mentioned he leads the league in "dollars made per meaningful catch" over the same period. Get your head out of your ass and learn some reading comprehension.

Singletary's coaching staff has been a disaster behind the scenes and even during games. Ex-OC Jimmy Raye being fired probably won't fix much aside from getting the offensive plays into the huddle quicker, and most reports out of San Fran indicate the players no longer respect Mike as a competent leader. That's not to say the ship can't be righted, but it's not looking too good at the moment despite the near upset in Atlanta.

The Flyers are playing their scrubs tonight, all guys that'll be sent down once the regular season begins... like the Bills did today.

Why can't they overpay for David Harris or Lamarr Woodley this coming offseason? Now that they overpaid for a "try hard guy" they can't overpay for a "play great guy". I'm sick of all the "trying hard" and would like to see them actually put together a roster of legitimate NFL talent.

That's why Jeff Littman has a lifetime contract with the Bills and also why Polian is long gone.

Only Tom Donahoe ever blamed the fans for the Bills' failures.

They shouldn't have drafted McKelvin in the first place with Greer due an extension and willing to return to Buffalo. Also, Florence was signed after Greer left for New Orleans--- 2009 was his first with the Bills. I don't think it was about money, only another poor personnel decision leading to another wasted draft pick.

Refusing to re-sign Greer is one of my least favorite Bills' moves of this past decade of inept roster moves. This is exactly the kind of play I will always associate with Clements.

One move for which I've never regretted the Bills making or not making was the refusal to re-sign Clements. I don't want to pile on the guy, but geeze, what a bonehead for giving this game away by not protecting the ball. What a "Playmaker". http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81b0632a/White-chases-down-Clements-pokes-out-ball

Unfortunately, Whitner's in his "prime". Eddie was quite a few years past his, so Donte's was worse.

I don't want to "troll" him, but where's NaPolian8693???? I'm his biggest fan and cannot even possibly begin to imagine what his thoughts are on his favorite converted DE/OLB's performance in this game.

He spelled rebuild 3 different ways, each of them incorrect. I'm sure he had a few...

There haven't been many trades like that in the past 25 years, but it's awesome that in such a gigantic 3 team trade the Bills easily made out the best.

Yeah, if Ralph had his way. I guess whatever Ralph says goes.

Which is why I agreed there was a lot of luck in acquiring players like Kelly, Bruce, Andre (and others like Ritcher and Talley, etc.) prior to Polian's arrival.

Polian was not the GM in 1985, Stew Barber drafted and signed Bruce. It's true that Polian got Kelly signed in '86, but he didn't draft him. That was my point.

It's funny because Polian is only responsible for Thurman out of the group you mention, even though he always gets credit for building that team. In fact, the core of the SB teams was brought in before Polian, although he filled the roster with all of the great role players that really made that era so good. It very well may have been luck.

"Kelsy was upfield and that surprised Mangold..." I think even Kelsay was surprised he was able to get upfield. There was no need for a hold because he usually takes himself out of the play all on his own.