John Cocktosten

Avenue on Hertle. The Royal and Baked Beef are the best. I used to love Johnny C's but it's fallen off a bit.

Taint needs to stop. He does a little dance after every catch and has been fined for celebration. Taint's mad because Orton put it in, stones and all.

Cam Newton dominated? 280 and 1 TD is not domination. I brought up Rodgers and Eli because they're both considered half way decent. Btw, who's the Packers only legit WR, Cobb (6 rec TDs) or Nelson (Leading the NFL in yards)? And who cares if the Lions are doing without big names, you could say the same thing for a lot of defenses but the facts are that they're #1 and that's all that counts. I'm not saying Orton is the future but he's a hell of a lot better than EJ. He also deserves credit for playing as well as he did without any spring or fall practice and minimal snaps before this week. The tape? Dudes started 70 games in his career, defenses know his tendencies.

So if you can't run against a team you should always expect to break 300 yds passing? I guess you missed the GB game when Aaron Rodgers passed for 170 when his team only rushed for 70. How about Eli passing for 150 vs the Lions and when they totaled 50 yds rushing as a team. Logic isn't quite there my friend. Also, if the Lions have one of the best Dlines and the Bills Oline is putrid, why would Hackett go to the 5-7 step drop game? Shorter routes are the way to go while picking your spots to go deep. Did you read your own post? The WRs gave up on EJ but it's not an indictment of EJ? Who is it an indictment of? Wow.

I'm just replying to your original post. You said the win looked "pretty damn familiar" to you. I'm saying that it looked nothing like those two wins becasue we averaged 150 RYPG which is obviously going to help the QB. Also, Orton had 300 yds passing today (vs the #1 D) EJ averaged 185 YP in his two wins. So when you look at the three games and say they look the same, the issue here is that you can't seem to remove EJ's jersey from your mouth long enough to be objective.

You can't be serious? The Bills had 200 vs the Bears and another 115 vs the Dolphins and those two big runs had a major role in the win at Chicago. Good God man, you've lost your mind.

Still didn't mention anything about the 150 rush YPG EJ was working with vs the 49 that Orton had today. Btw, Rodgers and Eli struggled mighty vs the Lions D. But hey, who likes facts?

Kelvin Benjamin wasn't a first rounder when EJ was his QB. See the difference when a real QB is throwing the ball? 2012-13 Florida State 14 30 495 4 2013-14 Florida State 13 50 957 14

Kelvin Benjamin wasn't a first rounder when EJ was his QB. See the difference when a real QB is throwing the ball? 2012-13 Florida State 14 30 495 4 2013-14 Florida State 13 50 957 14

Hi def? You could've seen the hands to the face and the hold on Sammy if it was shot on Zapruder's camera.

Except for the part where the Bills averaged 150 rushing yards in those two wins and had 49 at 2.2 a clip today. But I'm sure that has more to do with EJ's ability to take the top off a defense and getting the safeties out of the box. Right?

Freddy is right up there with the greatest Bills for me. He always gives a balls out effort which the team clearly feeds off of. His leadership and attitude are as good as it gets. Too bad the Bills just started appreciating his talents the last couple of years.

Shocking opinion coming from a Nole. I'm sure you have lot of respect for Jameis though.

Poor guy, still suffering from Bills Stockholm Syndrome. You've fallen in love with mediocrity which has rendered you unhappy with the most talented team we've had in a decade. The fact that you said Orton had nothing to do with this win says it all. Also, I've sent you multiple PMs and posted in threads that I wanted to settle and never heard back from you. I've also owned my the fact that I was wrong about Clausen. But if you want to go back and forth over your love for Troupe, Maybin, EJ and everyone that Buddy Nix brought in I'll be glad too. Unreal that you're so unhappy with a great win.

Boom! Orton feelin it!!!!!!!

enough with the slow developing PA. Orton is starting to feel it a bit

man he's late seeing stuff over the middle but at least he throws it

Hughes makin himself a lot of money today

Not our day fellas

WTF

Why cut into the pursuit WOODS!!!!!!???

I wonder how much freedom Orton has to audible. I'd expect an experienced QB to see that pressure and get out of PA

A QB who took no preseason snaps and just stared getting meaningful reps this week is struggling against the #1 D. Shocking! Did anyone really think this was going to be a Frank Reich type situation?

We got flag fvcked this half.