PDaDdy Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 The Vikings play more cover-2 than the Bills, it seems. Especially since they're used to playing with leads. It'd be nice to have the horses they have up front, though. Makes a lot of things work better. GO BILLS!!! The world really is yin and yang I guess. Some want to replace Jauron because he is a bad coach. Several replacement candidates have been mentioned and have had their accomplishments diminshed as people attribute their success to the players around them or a system that was already in place. Makes you kind of wonder if the problem is Jauron, the talent, or the organizational system in place prior to his arrival??? I feel it's all 3 but people want to blame a single source for all of the Bills woes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MURTR Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 finish the season out. It has been possibly revealed unto me the other day that this could possibly be Buffalo's new head coach at seasons end. At this time I will not reveal my source in case I have it wrong. So, please do not ask.Darrell Bevell Offensive Coordinator of the Minnesota Vikings. As new blood has sometimes to be placed in places, this is the fresh young face Buffalo needs to begin to secure the future. http://www.vikings.com/team/coaches/darrel...e6-956773a7b83e If the link does not work, please copy and paste and I apologize if so. I want nothing to do with this guy, he has bust written all over him. He has a good OL, best RB in football, decent WRs, and Favre....what on earth will he do with our O if he came to Buffalo. I am not against getting a Coordinator but I would prefer someone who has gotten it done for more than 1 season. In terms of Minnesota, I actually would prefer Leslie Frazier. I know the guy has crazy talent on D, but I heard his personality is very similar to that of Mike Tomlin's who I like a lot as a HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 The question was pretty straightforward, Magox... I know Senator, I was just giving my opinion on Switzer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 systems, coaches and players do, and to suggest otherwise is just stupid. Agreed. The point being maybe Jauron isn't as much of the problem as we think We need talent and lots of it. We could start by just keeping the talent that we do develop instead of letting them walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 systems, coaches and players do, and to suggest otherwise is just stupid. If I may break it down scientifically, Magox, it's: 99% players. .75% coaches. .25% systems I might be willing to bring a coach up to a FULL 1.75% and drop the players down to 98%, but that coach would truly have to be exceptional. A true innovator like Gillman or Walsh perhaps. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I know Senator, I was just giving my opinion on Switzer. Sorry, Magox, didn't mean to seem 'punchy' - personally I can't stand Switzer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Agreed. The point being maybe Jauron isn't as much of the problem as we think We need talent and lots of it. We could start by just keeping the talent that we do develop instead of letting them walk. We need an effective coach who can lead, we need an offensive coordinator that can play to our teams strengths and playcall, we need better O tackles that can pass block, we need a confident QB to pass to our receivers, we need more depth at Defensive tackle, we need another DE who can get to the QB (hopefully Maybin), We need another LB who can effectively penetrate and win battles at the point of attack, we need our Special teams to perform as it once did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyjustbcuz Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 finish the season out. It has been possibly revealed unto me the other day that this could possibly be Buffalo's new head coach at seasons end. At this time I will not reveal my source in case I have it wrong. So, please do not ask.Darrell Bevell Offensive Coordinator of the Minnesota Vikings. As new blood has sometimes to be placed in places, this is the fresh young face Buffalo needs to begin to secure the future. http://www.vikings.com/team/coaches/darrel...e6-956773a7b83e If the link does not work, please copy and paste and I apologize if so. You would think that some of us would learn not to get excited over another teams coordinator rather it's offensive or defensive. It doesn't prove that they will make good head coaches at all! ie: Gregg Williams etc...many, others proved the same result. What we do need is to fire Jauron whenever the appropriate time presents itself (Last year in my book, when he couldn't find the challenge flag in time!)....And hire someone with a proven track record! ie: Bill Cowher, Mike Shanahan, Tony Dungy, Marty Shottenheimer, John Gruden, Mike Holmgren.....are u kidding me...there are that many and several more great choices out there yet people want to experience a young coordinator....come'on what are people thinking....I would be more excited about a new GM like the return of Bill Polian who would get the other things right in it's proper sequence...until we do that most positions on the team will be a revolving door like they have been for several years. You need a strong organizational foundation to build on instead of putting new double-pane windows on a house that is collapsing! That makes about as much sense as several of these posts....just like the quick free agent trade before the deadline for trading hits today.....It won't make much sense to rent a player for 1 year to finish 6-10 or so! 1. Get the GM 2. GM hires Coach 3. GM hires new scouting dept and draft specialist. 4. Coach decides what players are salvageable 5. Coach lets GM know which players need to be cut, traded, contract expire etc... 6. Coach needs to pick his coaching staff.....let go of all current coaches! even Bobby April...and especially the strength & conditioning coaches as we have a high percentage of players injured the past few season. 7. Coach needs to make it clear that the team will conduct many outside practices and training in the future to better condition and have an advantage in bad weather. 8. No soft training camps If most of these things happen we would have an organization that would be a lot more successful in about 2-3 years or sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 If I may break it down scientifically, Magox, it's: 99% players. .75% coaches. .25% systems I might be willing to bring a coach up to a FULL 1.75% and drop the players down to 98%, but that coach would truly have to be exceptional. A true innovator like Gillman or Walsh perhaps. GO BILLS!!! Hyperbole anyone? I get the gist of what you are saying, I'm not so sure I agree with that, at least not to that extent. If I had to put numbers on it, I would say: 30% QB 30% rest of the players 35% coaches and system 5% luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewHampshireBillsFan Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Which means what? A name everyone recognizes? Shannahan? Holmgren? Martz? You do realize that some of these guys flamed out horribly in their last jobs, right? But we all tend to gloss over such details. Meanwhile most of the new coach hires in the NFL are first-time head coaches and guys liek McDaniels, Sparrano, Childress are doing pretty well. So what does this prove? That hiring a name coach guarantees nothing. You have to hire someone who is going to be good. How do you know who is good? If I knew I'd be an NFL GM. And sadly, no one at One Bills Drive knows either. PTR You have to at least let a coach be the coach he wants to be and make his own decisions on who he will play, etc. With Donahoe he meddled way too much. I don't think much of Gregg Williams or Mularkey but neither really had a chance to do his own thing. Going back to our last playoff game when we were all still young 10 years ago, RW supposedly decreed that Rob would QB! Even though you have a strong personality like Parcells in Miami I don't get the impression he is trying to micromanage the coach. DJ is the first coach in a long time that actually gets to coach without interference. Unfortunately, he is the kind of coach that needs a guiding hand. So we can't win at this point. If we get a young and talented coach in 3 years, after DJ's contract is up, my main hope is that they will let him coach and not meddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 The world really is yin and yang I guess. Some want to replace Jauron because he is a bad coach. Several replacement candidates have been mentioned and have had their accomplishments diminshed as people attribute their success to the players around them or a system that was already in place. Makes you kind of wonder if the problem is Jauron, the talent, or the organizational system in place prior to his arrival??? I feel it's all 3 but people want to blame a single source for all of the Bills woes. It's hard to focus on more than one thing at a time. Which seems to be a problem for the Bills too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Your grandmother played football? How cool is that? I heard she was quite the placekicker, too, in her day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I guess our defense generating all those turnover leading to the win proved nothing- Maybe the Jets actually meant to throw those interceptions. Everyone talks about how bad the line and QB are- what is any coach supposed to do with a team that is this bad? Fans aren't supposed to be logical, but the front office is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABuffaloFan Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Yes that would be nice. May I ask you this though: were Marv Levy, Tom Landry, Joe Gibbs, Tom Flores, guys of this nature already proven when they were hired? Buffalo's biggest problem right now in an offense with no identity. Defense is pretty good right now if we had the injured players able to suit up. Offensive players will never get better without proper direction. Because you always have to score to win, this is the direction Buffalo needs to go. Our defense just gave up over 300 yards running. We were lucky to win that game because of the 6 interceptions. If the Bills keep giving up 200+ yards running week to week they will win maybe 2 more games all season. As far as getting a new coach, i'd pay for a proven playoff winner, Gruden, Cowher, Billick, Fassel are my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye Eric Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 We need a proven HEAD coach. Hmmmm. Most *proven HEAD* coaches that *want* to coach are employed. A few options are to; a) violate NFL policies and negotate within one already in a contract; b) get one out of the TV booth (no easy task. people are delusional if that think Cowher would jump out for the Bills); or c) hire a *proven* old crusty who's best coaching days are years behind. Whom do YOU have in mind? Name names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 We need an effective coach who can lead, we need an offensive coordinator that can play to our teams strengths and playcall, we need better O tackles that can pass block, we need a confident QB to pass to our receivers, we need more depth at Defensive tackle, we need another DE who can get to the QB (hopefully Maybin), We need another LB who can effectively penetrate and win battles at the point of attack, we need our Special teams to perform as it once did. What he said! Not necessarily in that order but right on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrFishfinder Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 I don't care what kind of season he's having now. I would be for that. Maybe he just needs a change of scenery I dunno. He isn't doing a very good job with a 13-3 team from last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrFishfinder Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Don't get me excited! That would be a true dream come true. Jeff Fisher is one terrific football coach. Not this season, so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrFishfinder Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 You're also underestimating the loss of Jim Schwartz to Detroit....losing a quality D-coordinator like that can really hurt a team. True, but that doesn't explain the 0 points vs NE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrFishfinder Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Agreed. The point being maybe Jauron isn't as much of the problem as we think We need talent and lots of it. We could start by just keeping the talent that we do develop instead of letting them walk. In all seriousness, I agree. Fewell, Snert and now AVP are simply not very good. A slew of injuries doesn't help, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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