14424 Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 It's tough to tell via TV, but do you think that TO's body language on the line of scrimmage may indicate if a play is a run or a pass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonInBuffalo Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 IMO it's extremely unlikely, given his volume of experience, and overall level of play during those years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiamiGeorge Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 was thinking about that the other day, I looked and everytime it was a run, he would casually walk to the line. Im sure im wrong, but did think about that the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarolinaBillsFan Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 I have been trying to pay attention to that myself. It seems like when it is a pass play, he holds his hands together! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Absolutly. My friend and I have been saying it since the NE game. He takes plays off and it is noticable. Id say we are 80-90% on guessing run or pass from his pre snap body lang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hossage Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Yeah, its obvious. When the team is flat, he looks bored. I wonder if this team isnt so lame that him making fun of them and getting bored wont help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyDingo Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 I think if the defense lines up and guesses TO wont get thrown to, they will be right about 98%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofton80 Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 He is dogging it. May not be intentionally giving away the play, but it's not a shock if he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmjoyce113 Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Whenever Edwards calls the play out to him, or audibles to a run in particular you can see him drop has shoulders as to pout. The only time he didn't do that was once in the Saints game he got single coverage on the outside and Edwards audibled to a run. He looked to the Bills sideline clapping as to say "I'm about to burn this dude for 6" and actually ran him off the line. Other than that he looks bored more often than not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Eric Moulds used to do that all the time in his last few years here, my son and I used to be able to call pass or run every single time...I think WRs do that pretty often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guy Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 I don't see that being in T.O.s interest. If hes dogging it on plays its not going to open things up for him in the passing game. He prepares to hard to let up during a game. He just wants to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 I don't see that being in T.O.s interest. If hes dogging it on plays its not going to open things up for him in the passing game. He prepares to hard to let up during a game. He just wants to win. The point of this post is that he dogs it when he knows it's a pass play, or if he knows he's not getting the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judman Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Had the same conversation a couple of times recently. My god, if all of us can see it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Yes, the offense's problem over the years is/has been that TO is the only one (allegedly) tipping opposing defenses off. And if you think TO is bad, you should see Randy Moss. Where's the TO article on this, and would this qualify as the press "taking on" Moss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 I've noticed that when he casually and lazily saunters out to his spot on the line of scrimmage, he isn't involved in the play. But when the ball is coming his way, or at least has a chance to be, he looks ready to go and has his game face on. I too have talked about this and one person suggested to me that they think he's going easy because his toe is still hurting/bothering him. It's a plausible theory but I think he's just being lazy because he wants the ball and our porous offense can seem to accomplish that. This is a guy who over the last three seasons had 38 TDs! Use him or lose him. Geez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guy Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 The point of this post is that he dogs it when he knows it's a pass play, or if he knows he's not getting the ball. Really? He dogs it on a pass play? He dogs it if he knows he's not getting the ball? So he dogs it all the time is what you're telling me. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Really? He dogs it on a pass play? He dogs it if he knows he's not getting the ball? So he dogs it all the time is what you're telling me. My bad. Good point. On any pass play, there are several options, and a guy like TO would be one of those options. And on running plays, TO blocks, at least when the play is called to his side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewHampshireBillsFan Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 TO's attitude when he comes up to the LOS does seem to give the play away. To me it looks so bad that if I was Belicheat* I wouldn't even bother to cheat to get our play calls. But we could use this to our advantage. On the biggest play of the game TO should just pretend he doesn't care and then suddenly burn everyone deep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikey98277 Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 When you are looking back and looking for a particular thing, you can always point it out, once you know the outcome, the only thing i notice, is when TE audibles, its a run, take it to the bank. T.O just got here, this offense has been anemic for years without him he is definitely not the problem. He had more TD's last yr than the whole Receiving Corps of the bills and he is the problem???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stussy109 Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 I agree 100%, being able to read body language pretty good myself, it's easy to tell. Fortunately for us, the Communications frm the sideline cut out with time remaining on the play clock to eliminate any coaching staff from picking up on it and relaying to the MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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