cmjoyce113 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 I don't know if this idea has been kicked around or not but I think it is very plausible. Is it possible that New England and Belicheat have had this plan all along? Did they plan on trying to steal a pick from the Raiders and get Seymore back? I think the plan was to make sure the Bills didn't game plan for him throwing a wrench into things for them on MNF. They are hoping because the paper work was filed by the Raiders before the physical ever happened that the trade is a done deal and somehow they steal a pick from the Raiders. (I know it's not legal and the Raiders would then own his rights but you now how the Pats* get away with stuff and the NFL may rule in their favor in some ridiculous way) Is this jackass just at it again trying to screw the system and make sure the Bills are ill prepared Monday night with their rookie O-line and Bell at LT? What is everyone elses thought because I feel like they are up to something and they knew Seyemore to the Raiders was never really going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOBILLS78 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 I think the plan was to make sure the Bills didn't game plan for him throwing a wrench into things for them on MNF. I don't think they're that concerned about this Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Is this jackass just at it again trying to screw the system and make sure the Bills are ill prepared Monday night with their rookie O-line and Bell at LT? No - the Jackass Russ Brandon, Jackass John Guy, and Jackass Dick Jauron are making sure the Bills are ill prepared for Monday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull7734 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 I think we have a chance at this game. However the odds are stacked against us. Do you really think they need to resort to such tactics? Maybe against someelse. Right now I think everyone is underestimating us. Justifiably so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thand1 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Gotta love the conspiracy theories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThereIsNoDog Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 If Seymour doesn't report, the Patriots won't get the draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilbuffalobob Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 No - the Jackass Russ Brandon, Jackass John Guy, and Jackass Dick Jauron are making sure the Bills are ill prepared for Monday night. The GM doesn't prepare the team for games, but thanks for your jackasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pneumonic Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 If Seymour doesn't report, the Patriots won't get the draft pick. Negative. Not showing up isn't grounds for termination of a trade. If it were then every single player in the NFL would have a built-in no trade clause available to them. Upon learning of a trade the player could simply refuse to show up to the new team and be sent back to the old team. That's not a precedent the league will want. Nor is it something the owners would stand for. And the CBA doesn't allow for it. So unless Seymour fails the Raiders team physical he is 100% Oakland's problem to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmjoyce113 Posted September 10, 2009 Author Share Posted September 10, 2009 I am not saying it is what is happening or has happened but he has done stranger things. They may not be "that concerned" with the Bills but they are concerned about making sure they win and they will do it at all costs. I just wanted to put it out there to see what you guys all thought. It isn't what I think is happening just an idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 First of all, it's Seymour. It's a pet peeve of mine when someone starts a thread about a player and can't get the player's name right. Second, the Patriots won't wind up with the player and the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Negative. Not showing up isn't grounds for termination of a trade. If it were then every single player in the NFL would have a built-in no trade clause available to them. Upon learning of a trade the player could simply refuse to show up to the new team and be sent back to the old team. That's not a precedent the league will want. Nor is it something the owners would stand for. And the CBA doesn't allow for it. So unless Seymour fails the Raiders team physical he is 100% Oakland's problem to deal with. Plus...even if it were true, the League would no doubt apply the "But this is the Patriots exception" and give them the pick anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThereIsNoDog Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Negative. Not showing up isn't grounds for termination of a trade. If it were then every single player in the NFL would have a built-in no trade clause available to them. Upon learning of a trade the player could simply refuse to show up to the new team and be sent back to the old team. That's not a precedent the league will want. Nor is it something the owners would stand for. And the CBA doesn't allow for it. So unless Seymour fails the Raiders team physical he is 100% Oakland's problem to deal with. Not showing-up for the physical constitutes failing it. Not unlike missing a drug test does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 First of all, it's Seymour. It's a pet peeve of mine when someone starts a thread about a player and can't get the player's name right. Second, the Patriots won't wind up with the player and the pick. Seymour is a free agent after 2009. If he re-signs with the Pats, they got the player and the pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pneumonic Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Not showing-up for the physical constitutes failing it. Not unlike missing a drug test does. Twisted logic. So you are suggesting that anytime a traded player wishes not to be traded he simply fails to show up for the physical? OK, if you say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pneumonic Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Plus...even if it were true, the League would no doubt apply the "But this is the Patriots exception" and give them the pick anyway. That would a least equalize the pick the league stole from the Pats for "spying" like all other teams do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACor58 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 The GM doesn't prepare the team for games, but thanks for your jackasses. He does (or doesn't) by making poor personnel decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 I don't know if this idea has been kicked around or not but I think it is very plausible. Is it possible that New England and Belicheat have had this plan all along? Did they plan on trying to steal a pick from the Raiders and get Seymore back? I think the plan was to make sure the Bills didn't game plan for him throwing a wrench into things for them on MNF. They are hoping because the paper work was filed by the Raiders before the physical ever happened that the trade is a done deal and somehow they steal a pick from the Raiders. (I know it's not legal and the Raiders would then own his rights but you now how the Pats* get away with stuff and the NFL may rule in their favor in some ridiculous way) Is this jackass just at it again trying to screw the system and make sure the Bills are ill prepared Monday night with their rookie O-line and Bell at LT? What is everyone elses thought because I feel like they are up to something and they knew Seyemore to the Raiders was never really going to happen. hahahahahaha...this is the craziest conspiracy theory I have heard in a while...Geezus, all BB ever did was video tape some things he wasnt supposed (something MANY teams have done) and now all of a sudden he is as clever as Oceans 11 team... Stop smoking the "Jenkem" kid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThereIsNoDog Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Twisted logic. So you are suggesting that anytime a traded player wishes not to be traded he simply fails to show up for the physical? OK, if you say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Seymour is a free agent after 2009. If he re-signs with the Pats, they got the player and the pick Sure, but that assumes he eventually reports to Oakland this year. If he waits too long to report (6 games, I think?) then Oakland gets to keep him next year as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/seaha...ory/871309.html The league office approved the trade Sunday afternoon. It becomes official once Seymour passes a physical with the Raiders. If he opts against showing up in Oakland, the Raiders could void the deal and get back their first-round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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