TheChimp Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 How long do we have to wait for the Peters fan Club to find the Eagles website? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThereIsNoDog Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 How long do we have to wait for the Peters fan Club to find the Eagles website? The Eagles website is still trying to establish a Peters fan club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricogarion Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Peters is an Eagle,right? I'll stick to rooting for the Buffalo Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 This scenario is somewhat reminiscent of mid 2006 when Peters was moved from RT to LT. Now, the Bills are moving another former RT to LT and hoping it works. This time, the man forced to transition into the most difficult position on the OL doesn't have the strength or athleticism as his predecessor did.I'm more worried about his foot speed at his current weight,said to be 366 on the Bills roster page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted August 2, 2009 Author Share Posted August 2, 2009 How long do we have to wait for the Peters fan Club to find the Eagles website? There is no Peters fan club on here. Plenty of Bills fans who think the Bills would be much better with him than without him, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted August 2, 2009 Author Share Posted August 2, 2009 When a guy comes out and admits that he didn't give his full effort because he was thinking about his contract This is, like, the fifth time that people have made this claim, that Peters said he didn't give full effort. It's simply wrong. I don't know how else to put it. Now, you might be wrong just because you heard it on the boards that he said that. And if so, fine, misunderstandings happen. But if you can look at the actual transcript, and tell me that Peters said he didn't give full effort, than you're a liar. He never said that. Each time people make this claim, I ask for a link. The only one anyone has sent me is the one where Peters is quoted as saying “I was thinking about it sometimes," he said. "If you get beat on a play and you think about your contract. It doesn’t affect me that much. I thought about it some early in the year but later on in the year it wasn’t a big deal.” Nowhere in there does he say he didn't give full effort. Nowhere. What it seems to say is that when he got beat, he occasionally thought about his contract. Of course. Stuff pops into my head at work, too. But he never indicates for an instant that he didn't give 100%. So let me ask you again, CAN YOU PRODUCE A PETERS QUOTATION WHERE HE SAYS HE GAVE LESS THAN 100%? If you can't, then quit making the claim. I'm waiting. And have you ever heard of a "quad spasm," much less a reason to put a player on the PUP list? Have I heard of a quad spasm? Of course. It's a tiny little spasm of the quad muscle. It should be over in a few days. Have I heard of it as a reason to put a guy on the PUP list? Nope. But the Eagles put seven guys on the PUP list at the same time, including Asante Samuels. Clearly, they want to bring in seven guy who they couldn't fit on the roster and give them a two or three day shot in a live-fire setting. They probably figure they can come up with maybe one gem. It's a pretty good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Philster Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 If he was giving 100%, he would've been thinking about doing his job instead of his contract. It's not like we're talking downtime on the sidelines....he was out on the field charged with protecting the blindsides of Trent Edwards and JP Losman when he was thinking about his contract instead of what he needed to be thinking about. Plus, no one can say that Peters isn't a talented player...but when you see lackadaisical, lazy play, he's obviously not giving his all. He didn't need to come out and say specifically that he wasn't giving his all...just need a little common sense to see that he wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted August 2, 2009 Author Share Posted August 2, 2009 If he was giving 100%, he would've been thinking about doing his job instead of his contract. It's not like we're talking downtime on the sidelines....he was out on the field charged with protecting the blindsides of Trent Edwards and JP Losman when he was thinking about his contract instead of what he needed to be thinking about.Plus, no one can say that Peters isn't a talented player...but when you see lackadaisical, lazy play, he's obviously not giving his all. He didn't need to come out and say specifically that he wasn't giving his all...just need a little common sense to see that he wasn't. How long did he think about his contract? Did it say that? Could it not have been for three seconds after the play? Or less. There is no reason whatsoever to think that he was thinking about it at times that could have hurt. And if you think that any human being goes through his job without thinking about something else occasionally, you simply don't know about the human mind. Your idea of common sense is guessing with no basis. If you hate Peters, you're likely to read it that way. If you come at it neutrally, it simply doesn't give you any basis for saying that "Peters admitted..." which is what these guys have said. None. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Philster Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 How long did he think about his contract? Did it say that? Could it not have been for three seconds after the play? Or less. There is no reason whatsoever to think that he was thinking about it at times that could have hurt.You didn't see him play if you think that. There were times he may as well have said Ole like a bullfighter when allowing sacks. He either didn't try or else he's just an awful player...considering he actually EARNED the Pro Bowl in 2007, I and many feel he just didn't try. Maybe you think he just sucks as a playerAnd if you think that any human being goes through his job without thinking about something else occasionally, you simply don't know about the human mind. There's plenty of times that I think about other things at work...but you'd be an idiot to think about anything but the job at hand during a high pressure time...could end up getting hurt...which is what happened thanks to Peters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGB Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 We have to billieve that the coaches know what they are doing in moving a RT to LT...and that they were no other options available to solidify the OL in order to get to the playoffs. I mean...that is what good coaches do right?...and these coaches have shown us that they are good coaches - right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThereIsNoDog Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 There is no Peters fan club on here. So says the guy who jumps into every thread to defend a guy who, in not even 13 full games, gave up 11.5-12 sacks (depends on whether you read STATS or KC Joyner), committed 8 penalties, and who in his PC with his new team admitted that his contract affected his play and led him to not care if he messed-up because he wasn't being paid enough, and gave-up "hustle sacks." Yes Thurm, you're NOT a Peters lover. BTW, I did a search and found that Hugh Douglas, who does a lot of things for the Eagles' organization, talked to several players who have played against Peters and they said he was "soft and overrated." I guess we'll find out this year...whenever Peters gets on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 So says the guy who jumps into every thread to defend a guy who, in not even 13 full games, gave up 11.5-12 sacks (depends on whether you read STATS or KC Joyner), committed 8 penalties, and who in his PC with his new team admitted that his contract affected his play and led him to not care if he messed-up because he wasn't being paid enough, and gave-up "hustle sacks." Yes Thurm, you're NOT a Peters lover. BTW, I did a search and found that Hugh Douglas, who does a lot of things for the Eagles' organization, talked to several players who have played against Peters and they said he was "soft and overrated." I guess we'll find out this year...whenever Peters gets on the field. link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThereIsNoDog Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 link? http://www.gcobb.com/index.php?option=com_...&Itemid=290 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 Question: Didn't the Bills try to resign Greer before he hit free agency? Answer: Yep. Linky I guess Capt. Caveman did not get the memo. The Bills wanted to keep Greer. Where did I mention Greer? They didn't think he was worth the $ he was asking for. But Thurman isn't attacking Ralph's spending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 How long did he think about his contract? Did it say that? Could it not have been for three seconds after the play? Or less. There is no reason whatsoever to think that he was thinking about it at times that could have hurt. And if you think that any human being goes through his job without thinking about something else occasionally, you simply don't know about the human mind. Your idea of common sense is guessing with no basis. If you hate Peters, you're likely to read it that way. If you come at it neutrally, it simply doesn't give you any basis for saying that "Peters admitted..." which is what these guys have said. None. Just go to Philly and him and get it over with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 Absolutely. But Nate Clements wasn't. He was in very much the same category. So you think we should have offered him the biggest contract ever for a DB? Cause that's what he wanted and got. And look how great he's been since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 The Bills are definitely high on Bell. But now I'm starting to think they'll handle him like they did Peters and have him play at RT first. Frankly I'd be much more comfortable with him at RT, Butler at RG, Hangartner at C, Wood at LG, and Walker at LT. Bell's strength is supposed to be agility. He only did 9 reps with 225 at the combines. Unless he got a lot stronger, he would seem very ill suited for RT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThereIsNoDog Posted August 2, 2009 Share Posted August 2, 2009 Bell's strength is supposed to be agility. He only did 9 reps with 225 at the combines. Unless he got a lot stronger, he would seem very ill suited for RT. I'm sure he got stronger. But I'd love to hear how many reps he can do now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 Or Langston knows the move isn't a good fit, as Leo and Sal (and the poster before me, although I can do without the "you morons" talk) pointed out. It's incredible to me that the insiders know this is a terrible move. LW is a poor fit at LT, and he knows that if he doesn't succeed, he's going to be excoriated and run out of town. He'll be pilloried here mercilessly. Gee, why doesn't he feel happy? He's not getting any more money and he's going to be beaten like a rented mule all season long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGB Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 It's incredible to me that the insiders know this is a terrible move. LW is a poor fit at LT, and he knows that if he doesn't succeed, he's going to be excoriated and run out of town. He'll be pilloried here mercilessly. Gee, why doesn't he feel happy? He's not getting any more money and he's going to be beaten like a rented mule all season long. Who cares if he is happy as long as he can play LT better than any other available player or draft pick. There are plenty of people who are not jumping up and down on their way to work, but get the job done once they get there. If LW can't do the job, then the Bills better have plan B ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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