GripnRip Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 can;t tell if he can run an NFL route since he can not get off the line of scrimmage or identify a blitz or any other skill needed to be a WR but he is tall so he must be good I'm willing to bet the hundreds of professional football scouts, coaches, personnel directors and executives who got this wrong could really use someone like you to better diagnose their players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PushthePile Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 I'm willing to bet the hundreds of professional football scouts, coaches, personnel directors and executives who got this wrong could really use someone like you to better diagnose their players. Hundreds of scouts, coaches, directors, and executives all had the same opinion? I must have missed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOBILLS78 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Russell Copeland, Justin Armour, Roscoe Parrish, Reggie Germany write those names across a 10 foot banner........write the name James Hardy on an 8x11 sheet of paper.......place a pin through said 8x11 sheet.......stand back 10 feet.......blindfold yourself.........approach banner......stick pinned sheet onto banner........take blindfold off.......see where James Hardy will end up ranked as a wide receiver in Bills history. Anybody remember that amazing catch Armour made in the back of the end zone against the 49ers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GripnRip Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Hundreds of scouts, coaches, directors, and executives all had the same opinion? I must have missed that. Another idiot who can't make sense of what they read. You don't think the majority of professional football execs had James Hardy as Day 1 WR in last years draft? Yes, that constitutes HUNDREDS of people. If only they had the clairvoyance of spartacus and pushthepile... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 I would have him gain 20-30 pounds and work on his blocking and convert him to a TE ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PushthePile Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Another idiot who can't make sense of what they read. You don't think the majority of professional football execs had James Hardy as Day 1 WR in last years draft? Yes, that constitutes HUNDREDS of people. If only they had the clairvoyance of spartacus and pushthepile... Oh right, Day 1 grades mean the player is lock to be good. Thanks Grip, argument over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hossage Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Receivers drafted in the first round have about a 50% chance of not being a major bust. Pushthepile, are you saying that this years receivers are excellent and sure to be great, or that it is too early to tell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PushthePile Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Receivers drafted in the first round have about a 50% chance of not being a major bust. In the 2008 draft, first round wide receivers have a zero percent chance of bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasBB Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 First of all you are all crazy calling him a bust after last year poor perfomance by the entire team. Please tell me what he needs to do this year to lose the bust term. Lets be real now. I dont want to hear 60 rec and 10 TDS because we know that wont happend with the arrival of TO Lets hear it. Mainly, I think he needs to run better routes. I wouldn't call him a "bust" yet. I'd say his rookie year was a disappointment, but wouldn't call him a bust. However, you could see the frustration in Edward's face at times after an incomplete pass in Hardy's direction. He just doesn't move well, but that could have a lot to do with confidence, too. I say give him some time. He'll be learning from a couple of the best receivers in the game, so that's a big plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpcolosi Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Play considerably better than he did before his injury. He should start by not dropping so many passes. I'm not ready to write him off as a bust, but he needs to show improvement when he gets back on the field. can everyone who thinks hes a bust use some intelligence? its a known fact most WRs are not good their first year. look at eric moulds please or Chad Johnson or most good WRs. It takes 2-3 years, and for Hardy look closer to 3 due to the injury and having a HOF replace him for the time being. Lee had a good first year by most standards, but that is rare. look at these GREAT receivers down below. a lot didnt even START as WRs but were RT their first year. so use some intelligence dont just label a dude a bust because you were expecting the second coming of Randy Moss in year one... http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MoulEr00.htm http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JohnCh01.htm http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SmitJi00.htm http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HousTJ00.htm http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SmitSt01.htm http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HardJa00.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDD Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Catch the balls that are thrown to him Run a proper route Read a defense Beat a CB at the line of scrimmage Know the snap count Adjust to the ball Not shy away from contact Use his height to some kind of advantage stop using the rookie excuse card, and yes catch the balls thrown to him Other than the above he's an NFL caliber receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDD Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Russell Copeland, Justin Armour, Roscoe Parrish, Reggie Germany write those names across a 10 foot banner........write the name James Hardy on an 8x11 sheet of paper.......place a pin through said 8x11 sheet.......stand back 10 feet.......blindfold yourself.........approach banner......stick pinned sheet onto banner........take blindfold off.......see where James Hardy will end up ranked as a wide receiver in Bills history. You forgot Kamil Loud and Brad Lamb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOBILLS78 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 You forgot Kamil Loud and Brad Lamb. Umm, you forgot some others, too. Jeez. Sincerely, Kwame Cavil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperKillerRobots Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 I doubt he plays much if at all until the second half of the year because of the ACL. Bingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDVA Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 can everyone who thinks hes a bust use some intelligence? its a known fact most WRs are not good their first year. look at eric moulds please or Chad Johnson or most good WRs. It takes 2-3 years, and for Hardy look closer to 3 due to the injury and having a HOF replace him for the time being. Lee had a good first year by most standards, but that is rare. look at these GREAT receivers down below. a lot didnt even START as WRs but were RT their first year. so use some intelligence dont just label a dude a bust because you were expecting the second coming of Randy Moss in year one... http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MoulEr00.htm http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JohnCh01.htm http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SmitJi00.htm http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HousTJ00.htm http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SmitSt01.htm http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HardJa00.htm Hmm, someone with actual statistical proof to make a point. I like this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 BUST!!!! Yes I am an idiot but I know a bust when I see one. http://www.demotivateus.com/posters/majest...onal-poster.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 The amazing think to me are the posters who thought he was going to be a difference maker his rookie year- 1. the rookie WRs who do anything are as rare as hens teeth and 2. Hardy was considered particularly raw coming out of college but with a high upside- Hardy was considered a project ,if the Bills wanted a big contributor at WR last year they needed to go into FA, which they did this year, see Juaron learns, abet slowly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Philster Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 The amazing think to me are the posters who thought he was going to be a difference maker his rookie year- 1. the rookie WRs who do anything are as rare as hens teeth and 2. Hardy was considered particularly raw coming out of college but with a high upside- Hardy was considered a project ,if the Bills wanted a big contributor at WR last year they needed to go into FA, which they did this year, see Juaron learns, abet slowly. No doubt...I'll admit that I hoped he would contribute a lot...but realistically, judging by the way people seem to be giving up on Hardy already, you'd think the 2008 NFL Draft was the worst ever for WRs. Eddie Royal and DeSean Jackson were difference makers so the rest are all busts? LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 The amazing think to me are the posters who thought he was going to be a difference maker his rookie year- 1. the rookie WRs who do anything are as rare as hens teeth and 2. Hardy was considered particularly raw coming out of college but with a high upside- Hardy was considered a project ,if the Bills wanted a big contributor at WR last year they needed to go into FA, which they did this year, see Juaron learns, abet slowly. Hardy wasn't considered raw until he started to disappoint at OTAs. That was when we started to hear about how raw he was. He still has a chance to be good. Only people without patience (and therefore with judgment problems) have declared him a bust. But he has disappointed, and it's impossible to be sure what he will become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 More aggressiveness in going after the ball.He looked like a limpwrist last year. Improve his route running....it would be nice to see him productive this year in mop up time and in pre season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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