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Speaking of tea baggers

 

When you hold banners calling Obama Hitler, or accuse him of White Slavery, then yes they were a bunch of racist douchebag teabaggers.

 

 

Or these

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3406/331467...pg?v=1235761309

 

http://washingtonindependent.com/wp-conten...04/img_2429.jpg

 

http://washingtonindependent.com/wp-conten...34-1024x768.jpg

You'd think given the premiise of your comment that you would have AT LEAST shown one racist sign. But you couldn't even do that, which questions whether they actually existed, or if you're just too damn lazy to find them.

 

Please note that some of the language in one of the following images may not be safe for work.

 

That said, I didn't see any of you thinking this was wrong.

 

Or this.

 

Or these, from an environment group, no less.

 

 

And yet the photos you linked to completely and utterly pale in comparison to this.

 

In fact, many of the parties had plenty of people of different races. But let's not think for a moment that maybe your thinking is flawed simply because you didn't understand what the protesters were doing in April. I would wait for a response, but I'll check when Garafolo is doing her next show so I have a heads up as to what your next bit of "original" thinking is.

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As usually, you don't get it, in fact you totally missed the point.

All I did was repeat two of your claims, and put them next to each other. If you find stupidity in that, I can only refer you back to the author of those two comments.

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Speaking of tea baggers

 

When you hold banners calling Obama Hitler, or accuse him of White Slavery, then yes they were a bunch of racist douchebag teabaggers.

 

 

Or these

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3406/331467...pg?v=1235761309

 

http://washingtonindependent.com/wp-conten...04/img_2429.jpg

 

http://washingtonindependent.com/wp-conten...34-1024x768.jpg

 

Hey idiot, didn't you hear your own messiah in chief. He said both sides need to tone it down, not demonize the other side with inflammatory rhetoric for their beliefs. I guess you see that as code for: everyone on the right needs to STFU, and all those devoid of history and logic, it's time to pull out that race card. And all that other name calling. That always works well with any civil discourse.

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You'd think given the premiise of your comment that you would have AT LEAST shown one racist sign. But you couldn't even do that, which questions whether they actually existed, or if you're just too damn lazy to find them.

 

I didn't want to use the Huffington Post as a source. You can deny the White Slavery poster all you want. I saw it on the Huff Po today.

 

http://evilslutopia.com/2009/04/tea-party-...worse-ugly.html

 

If a tree falls in the woods and no one hears it does it make a sound?

 

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gadgets/s...20069_large.jpg

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gadgets/s...20093_large.jpg

http://insanitea.files.wordpress.com/2009/...w=460&h=613

http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads...04/dsc02711.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3625/344665..._952d582936.jpg

 

http://sitelife.democratandchronicle.com/v...fa725.Large.jpg

 

 

 

this one is just funny.

 

http://sitelife.democratandchronicle.com/v...2fef7.Large.jpg

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That's great. Six people accounted for. Another 249,994 to go.

 

When you take a ridiculously small sample and make it a blanket statement for over a quarter million, then really...who's being narrow-minded here? I'd like to think people are smarter than that, but I guess if one of you is an idiot, then all liberals are idiots. At least by your math.

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Or perhaps you weren't aware that when Bush was president there were "protest zones" set far, far away from where The Great Man would be. Hence no danger, and no media coverage.

 

Today that's no longer true - people can protest right outside, like they did. And when they heckled the President of the United States of America, and the crowd reacted negatively, he graciously calmed them down saying "that's all right" until the disruption subsided.

 

He (or more precisely, the handlers) has continued the practice of stacking audiences with supporters while suggesting otherwise.

 

We'll see what policy on protesters emerges if/when there begins to develop a pattern of protest. There certainly is not one yet, and no administration is going to react unless it becomes a recurring problem.

 

Btw, Bush didn't invent the practice, even though he did start to rely on them after about two years in office. Here's a picture of the Protest Zone for the 2004 Democratic Convention:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4...dment_zone1.jpg

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Some good stuff in there....lunatics are funny. Reminds me of the Berkeley parade retards who carry the same signs with Bush instead of Obama.

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He (or more precisely, the handlers) has continued the practice of stacking audiences with supporters while suggesting otherwise.

 

We'll see what policy on protesters emerges if/when there begins to develop a pattern of protest. There certainly is not one yet, and no administration is going to react unless it becomes a recurring problem.

 

Btw, Bush didn't invent the practice, even though he did start to rely on them after about two years in office. Here's a picture of the Protest Zone for the 2004 Democratic Convention:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4...dment_zone1.jpg

And we all know what happened in 1968 in Chicago too.

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We need a law applying Godwin's law to protests. "As soon as you compare anyone to Hitler...protest's over, you lost."

 

Yes, I know it curbs free speech. I'm okay with that.

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And we all know what happened in 1968 in Chicago too.

 

I don't think there were protest zones there - indeed, because of expectation of violence by the Yippies and the SDS I believe Mayor Daley refused to grant *any* protest permits.

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That's great. Six people accounted for. Another 249,994 to go.

 

When you take a ridiculously small sample and make it a blanket statement for over a quarter million, then really...who's being narrow-minded here? I'd like to think people are smarter than that, but I guess if one of you is an idiot, then all liberals are idiots. At least by your math.

 

It's similar to when YOU make blanket statements that everyone that doesn't see it your way is a liberal.

 

Any one that doesn't see it your way is a moron, idiot etc etc Gotcha'

 

The reason for the TEA parties was to protest against TAXES.

 

Not OBAMA. Not about anyone being a Socialist!!

 

But you obviously don't get that!?

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It's similar to when YOU make blanket statements that everyone that doesn't see it your way is a liberal.

Ahh, the old "I know you are, but what am I" argument. Always enchanting.

 

The reason for the TEA parties was to protest against TAXES.

Make up your mind, would you, Jeneane? Were we protesting taxes or protesting the black man being president?

 

Here's a tip, sister. We were protesting reckless spending, not taxes. If you actually attended a protest, or watched/listened to some of the speeches beyond what Keith and Arianna showed you, you would have known that. You would have seen protesters booing Republican officials who mistakenly thought it was a Republican event that would overlook the fact that they voted for the stimulus bill. You would have seen black people giving speeches. And you would have seen more people UNDER the $250,000 income range than anything else. That's right. The people getting tax cuts.

 

In California, the protest was against the reckless stimulus spending, but it was also aimed at taking down STATEWIDE reckless spending, like Props 1A-E, which are being voted on today. I guess if the residents of California votes down these propositions, we're all a bunch of idiots who just don't grasp the fact that spending your way out of debt is the fastest way to recovery.

 

I'm guessing Keith and Arianna didn't give you that info. Think for yourself for once, would you?

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The Notre Dame Griping Irish

 

 

A commencement speech at America's most prominent Catholic university is hardly an appropriate setting for a dialogue on abortion.

 

Let's be serious.

 

When an institution invites a prominent figure to offer their annual commencement, they're really just looking to have a famous person stand before their graduates, give them the warm fuzzies, and have them leave with a sense of hope and accomplishment believing, "if he can do it, I can do it!"

 

This year things got tricky when President Obama was asked to give the commencement at the University of Notre Dame, a catholic university whose religious dogma runs contrary to the President's stance on women's rights, specificially his pro-life tendencies.

 

Suddenly a commencement speech became a political battleground.

 

In marched the pro-lifers--posters, chants, airplane banners and all--seemingly oblivious to the ceremony honoring the academic acccomplishments of almost two thousand graduates.

 

Abortion ruled the day, partly because the media and protesters went to great lengths creating a spectacle, but mostly because President Obama chose to address the issue.

 

Why he made that decision is beyond me.

 

Obama addressed the abortion issue on his third day in office when he repealed restrictions on global organizations that offer abortion services.

 

He addressed the abortion issue when he appointed pro-choice governor Kathleen Sebelius to Secretary of Health and Human Services.

 

He'll get the opportunity to address the abortion issue again when he appoints a Supreme Court Justice to fill the seat vacated by David Souter.

 

There was no need to address the abortion issue Sunday.

 

If President Obama felt the need to address the protesters, he should have used the opportunity to deride them for their rude disruption of anotherwise joyous occasion.

 

In this case it was the protesters who instigated the dispute, but frankly I'm disappointed in our President for legitimizing their poorly timed shenanigans.

 

Someone should remind Mr. Obama that in spite of his noblest, most unifying centrists efforts, you can't fight the pigs without rolling in the mud.

 

There's a time and place for everything. The protesters forgot that on Sunday. It's a shame Obama did too.

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Divine my left foot. God never bestowed divinity on an institution created by man.

 

"Upon this rock I will build my church." Catholics, and I am one of them (proudly so), teach Christ only built one religion. Maybe you deny it, but the truth still exists.

 

The question for you would be do you believe Christ was God, if you don't then obviously it would make sense that you don't believe that.

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"Upon this rock I will build my church." Catholics, and I am one of them (proudly so), teach Christ only built one religion. Maybe you deny it, but the truth still exists.

 

The question for you would be do you believe Christ was God, if you don't then obviously it would make sense that you don't believe that.

Christ annointed Peter, his rock, to start the church and then He died, leaving MEN to carry on. Like so many things it started out great but over time...not so good.

 

Surely Christ didn't, for example, envision pedophile priests and torture as part of His plan for the Church? No, I didn't think so.

 

Christ was not "God". He's one of the Holy Trinity. You worship God, and pray to Jesus as the Son and also to the Holy Spirit to intercede but there is only one God.

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