The Dean Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 For a man that smokes weed, you are sorta uptight. Glad you had a take on the other story I mentioned. Why was that uptight? I simply made an observation. Methinks you may be taking the observation a little too seriously. Maybe a little weed would help us both, right about now. (Of course, that just might make me even more observant.) Methinks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Why was that uptight? I simply made an observation. Methinks you may be taking the observation a little too seriously. Maybe a little weed would help us both, right about now. (Of course, that just might make me even more observant.) Methinks? No worries. Just find it interesting that an even more horrible story (the lady probably wouldn't have lived) where a cop detains someone until she kicks off over expired tags, draws zero attention. Methinks I am just messing with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 No worries. Just find it interesting that an even more horrible story (the lady probably wouldn't have lived) where a cop detains someone until she kicks off over expired tags, draws zero attention. Methinks I am just messing with you I would go there, that I find this story even worse than the Moats story, but I won't go there.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 No worries. Just find it interesting that an even more horrible story (the lady probably wouldn't have lived) where a cop detains someone until she kicks off over expired tags, draws zero attention. Methinks I am just messing with you Just like the attention that is given to one particular missing child, when there are dozens of cases, at any given time, throughout the country. I agree that what the mainstream news sources choose to focus on can seem fairly arbitrary...but there are often some reasons behind the scene that go unnoticed by the audience. The amilies (or friends) of some victims know how to work the system and keep the story active. Of course, any combination of: being rich, photogenic, white, famous, etc...has an impact, too. But, in this case (of the two different police officer screwups) it's obviously related to an NFL player being involved. That would explain the interest here, as well. But, I know you know this...so you're messing with me again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 But, I know you know this...so you're messing with me again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rev.Mattb74 ESQ. Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Most white cops have no clue how to deal with minorities. It is just a real shame. For the most part I believe racial relations especially amongst blacks and whites are much better than when I was growing up in the 70's and 80's. However, that seems to be more the case amongst somewhat educated white people. A lot of cops are just stupid meatheads who use their badge as an excuse to bully people especially black males. It is too bad that cops get paid so poorly, because if they were paid better, maybe their would be a higher quality cop who had an ounce of common sense. Until than, black athletes will be on the most wanted list of most police departments. All you conservatives on the board can flame away if you like now. As a member of law enforcement I am offended by your comments. You know nothing sir and are basing your entire post on broad generalities about bad decisions of a few officers. It may seem bad because the media generally speak of the mistakes made and bad cops making them. Never on the six Oclock news have I seen a person lived because a drunk was pulled over by the cop, or police stopped habitual sex offender from walking into school yard-that happened hundreds of times the same day this one bad incident happened. Are there bad cops, yes, are there ones that make bad ecisions, yes. Every job field in every sector of the world have them. It will be that way to the end of time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generaLee83 Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 As a veteran law enforcement officer I find this story repulsive and the officer involved should lose his job and suffer any civil penalties for his actions. However, to those of you that are lumping all police officers together as being a group of racist and unfair jerks you are doing exactly what you profess to be against (stereotyping). You are in a sense doing the exact same thing that the officer did. I used to fall into this trap before I became an officer and now I can tell you that I group people accordingly into two categories: 1. Bad humans 2. Good humans Being a piece of garbage is not restricted to any race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 As a member of law enforcement I am offended by your comments. You know nothing sir and are basing your entire post on broad generalities about bad decisions of a few officers. It may seem bad because the media generally speak of the mistakes made and bad cops making them. Never on the six Oclock news have I seen a person lived because a drunk was pulled over by the cop, or police stopped habitual sex offender from walking into school yard-that happened hundreds of times the same day this one bad incident happened. Are there bad cops, yes, are there ones that make bad ecisions, yes. Every job field in every sector of the world have them. It will be that way to the end of time Here in Rochester you'll see something on the news about a heroic act by a police officer or fireman. That's the local news though. When something like this happens it garners national attention and makes all cops look bad when in fact it's a very small minority who are like this. JMO As a veteran law enforcment officer I find this story repulsive and the officer involved should lose his job and suffer any civil penalties for his actions. However, to those of you that are lumping all police officers together as being a group of racist and unfair jerks you are doing exactly what you profess to be against (stereotyping). You are in a sense doing the exact same thing that the officer did. I used to fall into this trap before I became an officer and now I can tell you that I group people accordingly into two categories: 1. Bad humans 2. Good humans Being a piece of garbage is not restricted to any race. What he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Are there bad cops, yes, are there ones that make bad ecisions, yes. Every job field in every sector of the world have them. It will be that way to the end of time Without question. The difference, of course, is the bad cop has a gun and authority. He can do quite a bit more damage, in his day-to-day routine, than the bad janitor. And, janitors seem less likely to band together, to protect one there own who may have gone rogue. But, most law enforcement people I know are very good people. OTOH, the bad ones are pretty scary, IMO. I grew up in a town where many on the local force were punks, who seemed to take some pleasure in exercising their authority. They were the guys from high school who were in detention all the time, and were bullys. Later, when I moved to bigger cities (with real problems) I got to know very intelligent, and sensible officers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Without question. The difference, of course, is the bad cop has a gun and authority. He can do quite a bit more damage, in his day-to-day routine, than the bad janitor. And, janitors seem less likely to band together, to protect one there own who may have gone rogue. But, most law enforcement people I know are very good people. OTOH, the bad ones are pretty scary, IMO. I grew up in a town where many on the local force were punks, who seemed to take some pleasure in exercising their authority. They were the guys from high school who were in detention all the time, and were bullys. Later, when I moved to bigger cities (with real problems) I got to know very intelligent, and sensible officers. Irondequoit is notorious around here for having a lot of A-hole cops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PushthePile Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Irondequoit is notorious around here for having a lot of A-hole cops. Irondequoit is the first place I thought of after reading the last few posts. I have seen some of those clowns operate. Personally, I think alot of these town guys don't always have enough going on, so they act like they are patrolling in Iraq, on routine traffic calls. I can understand staying safe and maintaining control with an aggressive posture. My problem, is when 4 cops strong-arm a 17 year old kid in front of his girlfriend, for not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 As a veteran law enforcement officer I find this story repulsive and the officer involved should lose his job and suffer any civil penalties for his actions. However, to those of you that are lumping all police officers together as being a group of racist and unfair jerks you are doing exactly what you profess to be against (stereotyping). You are in a sense doing the exact same thing that the officer did. I used to fall into this trap before I became an officer and now I can tell you that I group people accordingly into two categories: 1. Bad humans 2. Good humans Being a piece of garbage is not restricted to any race. I can go along with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LynchMob23 Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 As a veteran law enforcement officer I find this story repulsive and the officer involved should lose his job and suffer any civil penalties for his actions. However, to those of you that are lumping all police officers together as being a group of racist and unfair jerks you are doing exactly what you profess to be against (stereotyping). You are in a sense doing the exact same thing that the officer did. I used to fall into this trap before I became an officer and now I can tell you that I group people accordingly into two categories: 1. Bad humans 2. Good humans Being a piece of garbage is not restricted to any race. Amen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faderphreak Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Doesn't matter. The cops are beyond reproach. At least that's what I've been told. You sir are correct. When you have a gun and a badge, unless you get caught on camera and the footage is made public, you can pretty much get away with anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 You sir are correct. When you have a gun and a badge, unless you get caught on camera and the footage is made public, you can pretty much get away with anything. I imagine there are plenty of good cops. A bunch used to pile into my bar, get hammered and drive to the casinos. Lts, Watch Commanders, and the rank and file. Heard them say stuff that would make my hair curl if I wasn't mostly bald. My favorite was how a guy said he had to announce himself when he was about to kick in a door, "This is the Poh lease" as blacks were incapable of understanding the word police. Sadly, he was one of the more tolerant ones. Mind you, this only reflects on our local community, in no way does it reflect on police officers as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PushthePile Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 You sir are correct. When you have a gun and a badge, unless you get caught on camera and the footage is made public, you can pretty much get away with anything. You don't need a badge to get away with something. Have a little more faith in your fellow man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LynchMob23 Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dw...as.3ecf949.html He also did the same to Zach Thomas' wife, who he actually did detain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dw...as.3ecf949.html He also did the same to Zach Thomas' wife, who he actually did detain... This cop is a real scumbag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 This cop is a real scumbag. I cannot wait until karma bites this a-hole in the a**! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 I tried giving the benefit of the doubt to the cop..."maybe he made a bad play like a good quarterback making a bad read." Zach Thomas said at the time of this incident as to why they didn't report it, "it was maybe a guy having a bad day." Harder to say that now. And yes I will now say the words...racial profiling. The Moats are black. Zach Thomas' wife is hispanic. Her mother who was with her at the time speaks little to no english. By the way before piling on opinions, please read the entire article just posted. On this cop's discretion, this woman was handcuffed and put in jail for 3 hours...for an illegal u-turn. On this cop's discretion. FWIW I used to manage Angelina's on Elmwood Avenue. We gave half price to cops and I know lots of BPD guys and I really liked those guys. It's too bad that bad cops or cops doing bad things can mess up the reputation of lots of good cops. Many good people are damaged by the bad deeds of the few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts