The Tomcat Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Would someone explain to me why Daniels is being so highly thought of. A first and a third seems like a lot to give up along with the $ were going to have to pay him. I will plead ignorant because I really don't understand the fascination with him. I can be convinced I guess..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 If somebody is able to convince you, please forward their response to me as I am confused by the situation as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair GM Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 If somebody is able to convince you, please forward their response to me as I am confused by the situation as well. Me too! He's made strides in improving his game over the last three seasons in Houston. Coming off his best reception year, 70 for 862...not too shabby for a TE, he should demand a good price...but a 1st and 3rd for that kind of production... This would be the worst FA pick up EVER. If Fine and /or Shouman started all 16 games, I bet they would have similar impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I don't understand the logic either. If Jauron and OBD gives up draft picks and a boat load of money to acquire this guy when there are many TE's in this draft with Daniels potential then I would have to question there intellect. This kind of thinking has put them in the mess they are in now (Bledsoe, Rob Johnson). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndZoneCrew Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 It would take a 1st and a 3rd? wow...too steep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 because he is only 26 (this will be is 4th year) and has 133 catches and 1630 yards in the last two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperKillerRobots Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Would someone explain to me why Daniels is being so highly thought of. A first and a third seems like a lot to give up along with the $ were going to have to pay him. I will plead ignorant because I really don't understand the fascination with him. I can be convinced I guess..... The only thing I could think of when I heard about the Bills' interest in him was tha tthey would try to get him by trade instead of signing him to an RFA offer sheet. Kind of like what the Pats did with Welker that one year, except I think they actualyl gave up something extra so the Dolphins wouldn't match. You never know if Houston (for whatever reason) doesn't want to sign him and would be willing to listen to trade senarios that didn't involve a first round pick. maybe next year's two and this years three? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 He's in the prime of his career at 26 and has been getting better every year. He's a legitimate, proven, Pro-Bowler at the NFL level. With Jermaine Gresham staying in and Brandon Pettigrew proving to be less than stellar at the combine (and not spectacular in any one skill), there isn't a TE available in the draft that would be an immediate upgrade over anything we have. Even if either of those guys were available or worthy of taking with the #11 pick, there's no saying that they'd be any good; let alone a Pro-Bowler. With Bo Scaife being Franchised, there isn't another TE on the market that would be an upgrade. We desperately need a TE and Owen Daniels is the only real option outside of drafting a guy in the 2nd or 3rd and keeping our fingers crossed. Besides, we might be able to work a deal with Houston and give up less (ala Wes Welker). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 i would give up a first and third in a heart beat. The man will be a lock for 70-80 catches and 900+ yards a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomcat Posted February 24, 2009 Author Share Posted February 24, 2009 You guys are starting to win me over...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomcat Posted February 24, 2009 Author Share Posted February 24, 2009 because he is only 26 (this will be is 4th year) and has 133 catches and 1630 yards in the last two years. But isn't that the same as Royal????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 But isn't that the same as Royal????? Ha! HA!! HAAAA!!!!! Owen Daniels has had 1630 yards in only the past two seasons. Robert Royal has had 1081 yards in his ENTIRE 7 year career! HA! ....... sorry, I couldn't help but laugh at the comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizell Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Maybe he meant Royal had 133 drops in 2 years. That'd make much more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 i would give up a first and third in a heart beat. The man will be a lock for 70-80 catches and 900+ yards a season. If the Bills were a good receiving TE away from contention, I could be sold on this too. Considering the Bills still have a weak pass rush (translation: need pass rushing DEs and OLBs), need to bolster the interior O line, and still need to add a solid DT to their rotation, that is far too steep a price to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 i would give up a first and third in a heart beat. The man will be a lock for 70-80 catches and 900+ yards a season. In what offense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 If the Bills were a good receiving TE away from contention, I could be sold on this too. Considering the Bills still have a weak pass rush (translation: need pass rushing DEs and OLBs), need to bolster the interior O line, and still need to add a solid DT to their rotation, that is far too steep a price to pay. Exactly, why waste picks when there are many holes to fill? If Buffalo goes out and signs more than a 2 impact FA...which is highly unlikely....then I would be on board with this, but right now I'm not giving up 2 first day picks for anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Exactly, why waste picks when there are many holes to fill? If Buffalo goes out and signs more than a 2 impact FA...which is highly unlikely....then I would be on board with this, but right now I'm not giving up 2 first day picks for anyone Well, let's not be hasty. I'd give up 2 first day picks for this guy easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 In what offense? Not ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Well, let's not be hasty. I'd give up 2 first day picks for this guy easily. Eh, I don't know there are quite a few OLBs out there between FA and the draft. I'd definitely pull the trigger at 11 on him...fastest pick in NFL history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 He's in the prime of his career at 26 and has been getting better every year. He's a legitimate, proven, Pro-Bowler at the NFL level. With Jermaine Gresham staying in and Brandon Pettigrew proving to be less than stellar at the combine (and not spectacular in any one skill), there isn't a TE available in the draft that would be an immediate upgrade over anything we have. Even if either of those guys were available or worthy of taking with the #11 pick, there's no saying that they'd be any good; let alone a Pro-Bowler. With Bo Scaife being Franchised, there isn't another TE on the market that would be an upgrade. We desperately need a TE and Owen Daniels is the only real option outside of drafting a guy in the 2nd or 3rd and keeping our fingers crossed. Besides, we might be able to work a deal with Houston and give up less (ala Wes Welker). good post, In response to other posts, a real red zone threat to accompany Lee Evans would help the Bills offense immensely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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