Boomer860 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 The coaches have put this team in a position to lose. Pass on first and goal WFT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Weren't you the guy defending DJ last week? Do you have anything to say for yourself? So Marshawn dropping the ball on 3 and 9 is Jauron's fault? May be they should have run on first and goal. But it's the COACH'S fault that Losman threw it RIGHT to the defender? C'mon, people! If you're so hung up on the importance of the coach, then you should be at arms over the fact that the PLAYERS make 2-3 times as much money as Jauron! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Big Man Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Haha, I love this "as fans, we deserve better..." nonsense. If you "deserved" a good product, you'd f'ing pay for it. Bill tix = cheapest in the league. The FANS "deserve" EXACTLY what they're willing to pay for!! Not the cheapest, KC is much cheaper, GB I believe is cheaper to because the team is owned by the tax payers . Bills merchandise is one of the top sellers. Lots of money in this franchise kitten. The problem is getting Wilsons short arms to reach his pocket. Wrong again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Not the cheapest, KC is much cheaper, GB I believe is cheaper to because the team is owned by the tax payers . Bills merchandise is one of the top sellers. Link? Seriously? Can you substantiate this? Because it belies everything I've known to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazed and Amuzed Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Haha, I love this "as fans, we deserve better..." nonsense. If you "deserved" a good product, you'd f'ing pay for it. Bill tix = cheapest in the league. The FANS "deserve" EXACTLY what they're willing to pay for!! I disagree Cat. Here in Miami, they can't sell out playoff games, in Jax they have to buy up tix to get games televised. As Bills fans sit in their freezing ass cold chair in the middle of Dec. at a sold out game for a team that they LOVE. Our "Team" looks like they just don't care. Being a Bills fan is not as easy but we love them. The team/coaches have no heart. Don't you think that the fans deserve a team with as much heart as they have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Haha, I love this "as fans, we deserve better..." nonsense. If you "deserved" a good product, you'd f'ing pay for it. Bill tix = cheapest in the league. The FANS "deserve" EXACTLY what they're willing to pay for!! Thats the worst I have ever heard out of you! Its not just the tix, its the gear people buy with their hard earned money. Its the people who sit in the elements year after year like I did for 30 plus years. Its the money we spend in the stadium. Get a clue idiot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Big Man Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 So Marshawn dropping the ball on 3 and 9 is Jauron's fault? May be they should have run on first and goal. But it's the COACH'S fault that Losman threw it RIGHT to the defender? C'mon, people! If you're so hung up on the importance of the coach, then you should be at arms over the fact that the PLAYERS make 2-3 times as much money as Jauron! Not the point. It shouldn't come down to a couple of drops or a turnover. Coaching is where it all starts. You are dissembling. If they had to call to throw on first and goal, it should have gone to 6'6" Hardy not 5'10" Evans...coaching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Big Man Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Link? Seriously? Can you substantiate this? Because it belies everything I've known to be true. I am sure you can substantiate yourself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv Levy Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 did anyone else notice Pennington drag Pozluzny 5 yards? should have traded up for Willis. Totally, guy is a freakin' STUD!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otisly00 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 So Marshawn dropping the ball on 3 and 9 is Jauron's fault? May be they should have run on first and goal. But it's the COACH'S fault that Losman threw it RIGHT to the defender? C'mon, people! If you're so hung up on the importance of the coach, then you should be at arms over the fact that the PLAYERS make 2-3 times as much money as Jauron! Good coaches put their players in positions to win games. They scheme, they motivate...teams take on their coaches personalities. I dont know if you have played sports before or not, but if you did I'm sure you can see this as well whether it was HS or college. Look at the past x amount of Super Bowls...the coaches you'll come across - belichicks, cohwer, fox, dungy, andy reid, mike holmgram, jeff fishers, parcells, etc etc. You point me in the direction of a sh!tty coach who took his team deep in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsObserver Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 So Marshawn dropping the ball on 3 and 9 is Jauron's fault? May be they should have run on first and goal. But it's the COACH'S fault that Losman threw it RIGHT to the defender? C'mon, people! If you're so hung up on the importance of the coach, then you should be at arms over the fact that the PLAYERS make 2-3 times as much money as Jauron! Ahahaha, you're still defending dick, no wonder why you get no kitty. Why would we be at arms over the players making more money than our coach? Do you think anyone gives a sh--? There are a ton of players that make 2-3 times as much money as their head coach. The point doesn't matter. Dick's gotta go and so do you.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got_Wood Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Not the point. It shouldn't come down to a couple of drops or a turnover. Coaching is where it all starts. You are dissembling. If they had to call to throw on first and goal, it should have gone to 6'6" Hardy not 5'10" Evans...coaching Exactly. You don't see any fight in these players when they're down. You see them jogging to the sidelines slowly with their heads down. It's a trickle down effect. You can't be this bad in so many phases of the game and blame the players. These guys went to the same colleges as the rest of the players in this league. In fact, I saw college teams this weekend look more professional and disciplined than our Bills. In fact, I think a college team could BEAT our Bills. THAT is sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 I disagree Cat. Here in Miami, they can't sell out playoff games, in Jax they have to buy up tix to get games televised. As Bills fans sit in their freezing ass cold chair in the middle of Dec. at a sold out game for a team that they LOVE our "Team" looks like they just don't care. Being a Bills fan is not as easy but we love them. The team/coaches have no heart. Don't you think that the fans deserve a team with as much heart as they have? Honestly, no. The Bills have had may be 10 successful seasons in the last 40. Fans have a choice as to who they support, whereas coaches and players do not. Blame it on Ralph, if you must. But to say you "deserve" a better team because you sit out in the cold is nonsense. Green Bay excluded (publicly owned team- established prior to said ownership being illegal)- comparatively small cities don't "deserve" an NFL team. Face it, the Bills had a good run in the 90's, but the rest of their history has been marred by mediocrity (at best). Here's a list of cities bigger than Buffalo that don't have an NFL team: San Antonio San Jose Columbus Austin Fort Worth Memphis Charlotte El Paso Las Vegas Lousiville Portland Oklahoma City Tuscon Albequerque Fresno Long Beach Sacramento Mesa Virginia Beach Omaha Tulsa Colorado Springs Raleigh Honolulu Arlington Wichita Santa Ana Anaheim Bakersfield Aurora Toledo Riverside Stockton Corpus Cristi Newark Anchorage Lexington St. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMadCap Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Honestly, no. The Bills have had may be 10 successful seasons in the last 40. Fans have a choice as to who they support, whereas coaches and players do not. Blame it on Ralph, if you must. But to say you "deserve" a better team because you sit out in the cold is nonsense. Green Bay excluded (publicly owned team- established prior to said ownership being illegal)- comparatively small cities don't "deserve" an NFL team. Face it, the Bills had a good run in the 90's, but the rest of their history has been marred by mediocrity (at best). Here's a list of cities bigger than Buffalo that don't have an NFL team: San Antonio San Jose Columbus Austin Fort Worth Memphis Charlotte El Paso Las Vegas Lousiville Portland Oklahoma City Tuscon Albequerque Fresno Long Beach Sacramento Mesa Virginia Beach Omaha Tulsa Colorado Springs Raleigh Honolulu Arlington Wichita Santa Ana Anaheim Bakersfield Aurora Toledo Riverside Stockton Corpus Cristi Newark Anchorage Lexington St. Paul So the Panthers aren't an NFL team anymore??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Yeah, you do. Turns out they hire marketing representatives that price the tickets PRECISELY where they can afford to sell them. Seriously, do you know anything about "business?" For the record, this is not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Good coaches put their players in positions to win games. They scheme, they motivate...teams take on their coaches personalities. I dont know if you have played sports before or not, but if you did I'm sure you can see this as well whether it was HS or college. Look at the past x amount of Super Bowls...the coaches you'll come across - belichicks, cohwer, fox, dungy, andy reid, mike holmgram, jeff fishers, parcells, etc etc. You point me in the direction of a sh!tty coach who took his team deep in the playoffs. The ball hit him in the hands/arms/chest. What other position do the "coaches" need to put him in? Not the point. It shouldn't come down to a couple of drops or a turnover. Coaching is where it all starts. You are dissembling. If they had to call to throw on first and goal, it should have gone to 6'6" Hardy not 5'10" Evans...coaching Apparently you haven't been paying attention to the NFL for the last 10-20 years. In fact, it DOES come down to singular plays. Look at the end of the year standings from any year. Play off teams = 8-8 to 10-6. Nonplayoff teams = 5-11 to 7-9. When games come down to one or two plays, and seasons come down to one or two games, then YES, seasons come down to ONE OR TWO PLAYS. The NFL is 2/3 mediocre teams (5-11 to 9-7). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsObserver Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 For the record, this is not true. I didn't think so. This guy is full of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 So the Panthers aren't an NFL team anymore??? Oh, so sorry. Please reduce the list from 38 cities to 37. You really slammed me with THAT point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazed and Amuzed Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Honestly, no. The Bills have had may be 10 successful seasons in the last 40. Fans have a choice as to who they support, whereas coaches and players do not. Blame it on Ralph, if you must. But to say you "deserve" a better team because you sit out in the cold is nonsense. Green Bay excluded (publicly owned team- established prior to said ownership being illegal)- comparatively small cities don't "deserve" an NFL team. Face it, the Bills had a good run in the 90's, but the rest of their history has been marred by mediocrity (at best). Here's a list of cities bigger than Buffalo that don't have an NFL team: San Antonio San Jose Columbus Austin Fort Worth Memphis Charlotte El Paso Las Vegas Lousiville Portland Oklahoma City Tuscon Albequerque Fresno Long Beach Sacramento Mesa Virginia Beach Omaha Tulsa Colorado Springs Raleigh Honolulu Arlington Wichita Santa Ana Anaheim Bakersfield Aurora Toledo Riverside Stockton Corpus Cristi Newark Anchorage Lexington St. Paul I see your point Cat, I really do. It's deeper then just that though. We as fans have grown to love this team, raised on the Bills. If we chose to not support our team then we lose them to another city. So as fans we are put in a "catch-22" if you will. We love the Bills and want them to stay in Buff but why shouldn't they do their part to keep us happy? It's as if they're saying "We're getting payed anyway, screw the fans, if we lose we lose". You, me and the rest of us do not "deserve" that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 For the record, this is not true. So you're not aware of Brandon's background then? Yeah, I'm full of it all right...HA! Please, then, prove to me that the Bills ticket prices are COMPLETELY objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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