Boatdrinks Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 something to the effect of "McCain: Change is coming.... "Now JM is talking about "change"? What change? How is continuing the Bush policies "change". Just asking. These repubs must really think Americans are full blown idiots. Continue Iraq war, raise taxes on middle class (work provided health care to be taxed as "income" above $5000 in value, about what you'd get at say ..mighty taco or something) select VP candidate who is against a womans right to choose and supported Pat Buchanan as Prez candidate, wants schools to "teach" creationism where exactly is the change???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StupidNation Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 He's not going to change much of anything, but if he does restore the rights of the unborn from murderers that's a huge change in itself. Imagine everyone having rights to life instead of being murdered under the pretext of choice? That change in itself would be fantastic than the holocaust against babies. Also, allowing schools to teach intelligent design is a positive change as it allows the ideas to become the debate, not the fringe lunatics who are not open minded to all of science, which includes the science of metaphysics. Even Charles Dawkins believes in intelligent design, as long as it might be an alien. Also, what's the big deal about Palin supporting Buchanan? He would have been one candidate would have stopped all these pseudo-wars and brought our troops home, that cannot be said for McInsame or Obamination. I see you are a spoon-fed liberal who eats the dog poo-poo the media gives you to eat. You should try to think beyond the talking points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 He's not going to change much of anything, but if he does restore the rights of the unborn from murderers that's a huge change in itself. Imagine everyone having rights to life instead of being murdered under the pretext of choice? That change in itself would be fantastic than the holocaust against babies. Also, allowing schools to teach intelligent design is a positive change as it allows the ideas to become the debate, not the fringe lunatics who are not open minded to all of science, which includes the science of metaphysics. Even Charles Dawkins believes in intelligent design, as long as it might be an alien. Also, what's the big deal about Palin supporting Buchanan? He would have been one candidate would have stopped all these pseudo-wars and brought our troops home, that cannot be said for McInsame or Obamination. I see you are a spoon-fed liberal who eats the dog poo-poo the media gives you to eat. You should try to think beyond the talking points. I choose life, but I also think it is a woman's right to choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 I choose life, but I also think it is a woman's right to choose. To have unprotected sex then abort the consequences of her actions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 To have unprotected sex then abort the consequences of her actions? Is that more or less moral than forcing an unwanted child to grow up with ungrateful parents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC-Bills Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 To have unprotected sex then abort the consequences of her actions? It's seldom that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Is that more or less moral than forcing an unwanted child to grow up with ungrateful parents? If the adoption rules in this country were easier there would be no shortage of wanting and loving parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 He's not going to change much of anything, but if he does restore the rights of the unborn from murderers that's a huge change in itself. Imagine everyone having rights to life instead of being murdered under the pretext of choice? That change in itself would be fantastic than the holocaust against babies. Also, allowing schools to teach intelligent design is a positive change as it allows the ideas to become the debate, not the fringe lunatics who are not open minded to all of science, which includes the science of metaphysics. Even Charles Dawkins believes in intelligent design, as long as it might be an alien. Also, what's the big deal about Palin supporting Buchanan? He would have been one candidate would have stopped all these pseudo-wars and brought our troops home, that cannot be said for McInsame or Obamination. I see you are a spoon-fed liberal who eats the dog poo-poo the media gives you to eat. You should try to think beyond the talking points. Hey Wacka, you have a new friend. Is this guy for real or did Pasta Joe (RKFast) get a new alt? I hope so for you conservatives. Must be tough to take him into your fold... Say, quick poll. Who believes in the power of the Christian God, the spiritual father of Jesus Christ (just to be perfectly clear), to help heal people? Do you believe that prayer can help people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passepartout Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 CNN used to be labelled the "Clinton News Network?" Remember that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC-Bills Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 He's not going to change much of anything, but if he does restore the rights of the unborn from murderers that's a huge change in itself. Imagine everyone having rights to life instead of being murdered under the pretext of choice? That change in itself would be fantastic than the holocaust against babies. Sorry, it's not quite that simple, but you go ahead and keep thinking that. Also, allowing schools to teach intelligent design is a positive change as it allows the ideas to become the debate, not the fringe lunatics who are not open minded to all of science, which includes the science of metaphysics. Even Charles Dawkins believes in intelligent design, as long as it might be an alien. Give me an effin' break. ID is *NOT* science and thus has no place in a science class. It's more suited for a Philosophy class. I see you are a spoon-fed liberal who eats the dog poo-poo the media gives you to eat. You should try to think beyond the talking points. Whether he is a liberal or not has nothing to do with it. You're issue is that he doesn't eat the same spoon-fed religious right bullsh*t like you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 He's not going to change much of anything, but if he does restore the rights of the unborn from murderers that's a huge change in itself. Imagine everyone having rights to life instead of being murdered under the pretext of choice? That change in itself would be fantastic than the holocaust against babies. What a pressing presidential issue. Also, allowing schools to teach intelligent design is a positive change as it allows the ideas to become the debate, not the fringe lunatics who are not open minded to all of science, which includes the science of metaphysics. Even Charles Dawkins believes in intelligent design, as long as it might be an alien. THIS is important to you. Besides being unbelievably ignorant of science, you are charged up about teaching ID in science. Fine, I hope public schools spend 10 years teaching ID. People like you why public schools are disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 something to the effect of "McCain: Change is coming.... "Now JM is talking about "change"? What change? How is continuing the Bush policies "change". Just asking. These repubs must really think Americans are full blown idiots. Continue Iraq war, raise taxes on middle class (work provided health care to be taxed as "income" above $5000 in value, about what you'd get at say ..mighty taco or something) select VP candidate who is against a womans right to choose and supported Pat Buchanan as Prez candidate, wants schools to "teach" creationism where exactly is the change???? It's change because it's coming from the Straight Talk - Country First Express. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Besides being unbelievably ignorant of science, you are charged up about teaching ID in science. Fine, I hope public schools spend 10 years teaching ID. People like you why public schools are disgrace. So true... Like I noted in my previous rants, you wonder why people are so ignorant with regards to science/medicine/math and what not. Pun intended, I can see "the flood gates" opening up in the next ten years... Pregnant ladies taught that it is okay to walk around for a day before getting medical attention after their water has broken. Let God decide over science! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowLinesandArmadillos Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 If the adoption rules in this country were easier there would be no shortage of wanting and loving parents. Agreed, screening should still be tough, but adopted parents rights should be protected from birth parent intervention and contact if not wanted. I am adopted and am grateful for both my birth mom, who realized she couldn't take care of me at 48, a widow, and my folks who gave me a good home. I knew that I was adopted before I even understood what the word meant. Still had to deal with some separation crap later on that I didn't realize was there, but all in all I have no complaints given the grass on the other side of the street. I am pro-choice for a lot of reasons, but abortions should be rare and adoption should be encouraged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Coli Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 He's not going to change much of anything, but if he does restore the rights of the unborn from murderers that's a huge change in itself. Imagine everyone having rights to life instead of being murdered under the pretext of choice? That change in itself would be fantastic than the holocaust against babies. Also, allowing schools to teach intelligent design is a positive change as it allows the ideas to become the debate, not the fringe lunatics who are not open minded to all of science, which includes the science of metaphysics. Even Charles Dawkins believes in intelligent design, as long as it might be an alien. Well done. You've persuaded me to send even more money to Obama's campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molson_golden2002 Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Hey Wacka, you have a new friend. Is this guy for real or did Pasta Joe (RKFast) get a new alt? I hope so for you conservatives. Must be tough to take him into your fold... Say, quick poll. Who believes in the power of the Christian God, the spiritual father of Jesus Christ (just to be perfectly clear), to help heal people? Do you believe that prayer can help people? Yes, probably. I think if a person buys into it and believes. Its sort of like the power of positive thinking. It might help a person cope and deal with a problem so they can relax and allow the body to heal. I don't think God actully hears the prayer and gives extra help to heal a person, though. I also do not think that the stunt they pulled in Geogia last year where they prayed for rain works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 5, 2008 Author Share Posted September 5, 2008 To have unprotected sex then abort the consequences of her actions? If that is what she wants to do. Most probably don't though. Perhaps if a morning after pill had been available for many years such as in Europe ( you know, the one the FDA recommended that the Bushies squashed on "moral" grounds) this would not be much of an issue anymore. Other means of birth control don't always work. What if you tried "family planning" and ooops! Then what? Why anyone cares what others do in the sack is beyond me. More right wing garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finknottle Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 So true... Like I noted in my previous rants, you wonder why people are so ignorant with regards to science/medicine/math and what not. Pun intended, I can see "the flood gates" opening up in the next ten years... Pregnant ladies taught that it is okay to walk around for a day before getting medical attention after their water has broken. Let God decide over science! There is a difference between a politician supporting something and his actually giving a rats ass about it. That has always been the knock on McCain in religious circles. Great voting record (conservatively speaking), but never pushing the agenda. I simply do not believe he will expend an ounce of political capital trying to drive social issues - he cares about national security, and fighting corruption and waste. That's it. He will have his hands full with a democratic congress as it is. IMO the only legitimate concern lies with judicial nominations, which will be a huge headache for him. It will be difficult to ignore the base, but impossible to brow-beat congress, especially since he needs them on his side for the other issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 If that is what she wants to do. Most probably don't though. Perhaps if a morning after pill had been available for many years such as in Europe ( you know, the one the FDA recommended that the Bushies squashed on "moral" grounds) this would not be much of an issue anymore. Other means of birth control don't always work. What if you tried "family planning" and ooops! Then what? Why anyone cares what others do in the sack is beyond me. More right wing garbage. Because what people do in the "sack" is not just fun and games. There can be severe consequences. I'm not sure what you mean by "family planning". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Because what people do in the "sack" is not just fun and games. There can be severe consequences. I'm not sure what you mean by "family planning". Hoo boy, I can only imagine the checklist you must have attached to your bedpost. Do you make your partner sign a pre-copulation agreement too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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