buffalopdc Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 There has been alot of talk about the Bills playing a December game against Miami indoors and how that is huge disadvantage (and unfair to fans), however, I do not think the Bills are the cold weather force we think they are. In cold weather games last year we played no better (or worse) than our opponents. If you look at our December schedule of 2007: 12/2 at Washington - the weather was pleasant for football and we won thanks largly to Gibbs not knowing the rules, 12/16 at Clevland- the weather was VERY unforgiving and we could not even muster a point, 12/23 New York at home - we looked cold and lost (however they were the better team), and our last game of the season at Philli - our cold weather skills were no advantage. Additionally, our quarterback (and back-up quarterback) and running back are from the west coast and have not looked comfortable in winter weather and the entire team practices in a temp. controlled field house (for the most part). As I see it from a competition standpoint we have little advantage playing outdoors. I would actually argue the opposite. Playing outdoors in winter more than other teams increases the risks of injury to our players and increases fatigue to our players over the long haul. We have beat the dolphins that last couple of years becuase we have been the BETTER TEAM, not becuase of the weather. That said, I beleive that the Bills are good enough that even if they played both games this year in Miami they would still handidly beat the Dolphins twice. The more I think about it, the more it makes sense for Buffalo to build a new dome stadium (maybe in the city) and maybe, just maybe, it will keep y favorite football team where they belong. It definatly would make December games much easier to sell out than they have been in recent years past. As a lifelong fan, I have been to many, many December games and as fun as it is to talk about the elements of the game and how tough I was as a fan, I was cold and miserable (even whern in a heated seat) at many of those games and would have much perferred a tempature controlled staduim. I welcome your comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 There has been alot of talk about the Bills playing a December game against Miami indoors and how that is huge disadvantage (and unfair to fans), however, I do not think the Bills are the cold weather force we think they are. In cold weather games last year we played no better (or worse) than our opponents. If you look at our December schedule of 2007: 12/2 at Washington - the weather was pleasant for football and we won thanks largly to Gibbs not knowing the rules, 12/16 at Clevland- the weather was VERY unforgiving and we could not even muster a point, 12/23 New York at home - we looked cold and lost (however they were the better team), and our last game of the season at Philli - our cold weather skills were no advantage. Additionally, our quarterback (and back-up quarterback) and running back are from the west coast and have not looked comfortable in winter weather and the entire team practices in a temp. controlled field house (for the most part). As I see it from a competition standpoint we have little advantage playing outdoors. I would actually argue the opposite. Playing outdoors in winter more than other teams increases the risks of injury to our players and increases fatigue to our players over the long haul. We have beat the dolphins that last couple of years becuase we have been the BETTER TEAM, not becuase of the weather. That said, I beleive that the Bills are good enough that even if they played both games this year in Miami they would still handidly beat the Dolphins twice. The more I think about it, the more it makes sense for Buffalo to build a new dome stadium (maybe in the city) and maybe, just maybe, it will keep y favorite football team where they belong. It definatly would make December games much easier to sell out than they have been in recent years past. As a lifelong fan, I have been to many, many December games and as fun as it is to talk about the elements of the game and how tough I was as a fan, I was cold and miserable (even whern in a heated seat) at many of those games and would have much perferred a tempature controlled staduim. I welcome your comments. You hit the nail on the head. We beat teams in cold weather because we had better players. That simple. The rest of the cold weather advantage is a myth for the most part. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmate Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 In the Super Bowl years, the team practiced in a Bubble that was heated and cooled. Are you proposing a return to the Bubble? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalopdc Posted April 18, 2008 Author Share Posted April 18, 2008 In the Super Bowl years, the team practiced in a Bubble that was heated and cooled. Are you proposing a return to the Bubble? We already have a bubble to practice in that is heated in cooled, it is our multi-million dollar field house. The team rarely practices outside in inclemant weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 I agree with you; the Bills playing poorly in December for the past 7-8 years has nothing to do with the weather, and everything to do with the team. I don't know that building a domed stadium is the answer, but I do know that if you're a good team you find a way to win regardless of the elements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 We already have a bubble to practice in that is heated in cooled, it is our multi-million dollar field house. The team rarely practices outside in inclemant weather. Nor should they. It's all about getting quality practices and working on execution. Can't do that in windy conditions. Snow and rain are ok but if it's windy you have to practice indoors. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalopdc Posted April 18, 2008 Author Share Posted April 18, 2008 Nor should they. It's all about getting quality practices and working on exectution. Can't do that in windy conditions. Snow and rain are ok but if it's windy you have to practice indoors. GO BILLS!!! Agreed, point is that it is a whole lot easier to execute at game time in similiar conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 The better team usually wins, regardless of weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 Regardless of the home field advantage that the current stadium provides, I would bet that there would be more demand for late season tickets with a dome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjeff215 Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 There has been alot of talk about the Bills playing a December game against Miami indoors and how that is huge disadvantage (and unfair to fans), however, I do not think the Bills are the cold weather force we think they are. In cold weather games last year we played no better (or worse) than our opponents. If you look at our December schedule of 2007: 12/2 at Washington - the weather was pleasant for football and we won thanks largly to Gibbs not knowing the rules, 12/16 at Clevland- the weather was VERY unforgiving and we could not even muster a point, 12/23 New York at home - we looked cold and lost (however they were the better team), and our last game of the season at Philli - our cold weather skills were no advantage. Additionally, our quarterback (and back-up quarterback) and running back are from the west coast and have not looked comfortable in winter weather and the entire team practices in a temp. controlled field house (for the most part). As I see it from a competition standpoint we have little advantage playing outdoors. I would actually argue the opposite. Playing outdoors in winter more than other teams increases the risks of injury to our players and increases fatigue to our players over the long haul. We have beat the dolphins that last couple of years becuase we have been the BETTER TEAM, not becuase of the weather. That said, I beleive that the Bills are good enough that even if they played both games this year in Miami they would still handidly beat the Dolphins twice. The more I think about it, the more it makes sense for Buffalo to build a new dome stadium (maybe in the city) and maybe, just maybe, it will keep y favorite football team where they belong. It definatly would make December games much easier to sell out than they have been in recent years past. As a lifelong fan, I have been to many, many December games and as fun as it is to talk about the elements of the game and how tough I was as a fan, I was cold and miserable (even whern in a heated seat) at many of those games and would have much perferred a tempature controlled staduim. I welcome your comments. I've always thought that FA has a lot to do with it, too. We're shuffling players so much that they never really become fully acclimated to the weather. I also think FA has done a number on classic rivalries, too, but that's another topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalopdc Posted April 18, 2008 Author Share Posted April 18, 2008 I've always thought that FA has a lot to do with it, too. We're shuffling players so much that they never really become fully acclimated to the weather. I also think FA has done a number on classic rivalries, too, but that's another topic. Good point I had not considered that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 Of course we're a cold weather team. Do we not still play eight, er seven, home games a year outdoors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalopdc Posted April 18, 2008 Author Share Posted April 18, 2008 Of course we're a cold weather team. Do we not still play eight, er seven, home games a year outdoors? Obviously we play our games outdoors, the issue is whether or not it is a decisive advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 Based on what we saw in 2007 I think we're as much a cold weather team as Miami. That's why I'm not pissed about the dome game in December. The days of pounding the Raiders in sub-zero weather are long gone. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 Based on what we saw in 2007 I think we as much a cold weather team as Miami. That's why I'm not pissed about the dome game in December. The days of pounding the Raiders in sub-zero weather are long gone. PTR We'll see. With last year's roster full of bantamweight WRs and small-but-quick DTs? I agree. Small-but-quick didn't work worth a damn once the field turned to crud, did it? Size at WR/TE. Can we please get a receiver bigger than Brian Moorman? (More) size in the front seven (Stroud and Mitchell should help). Then, we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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