Sen. John Blutarsky Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Mr. Burns just hit the trap door that Malcolm was standing on top of. 4.75 is slow for a linebacker these days. People had major concerns about him already now I see him in the 3rd round at best. Watch his agent spin that he wasn't healthy but ran anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berndogg Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Didn't derrick harvery run a faster 40 than that at the combine. If he's available at #11 we can just use him at DL and WR, two needs filled in one pick, perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takeo_14 Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Fred Davis is faster than Kelly!!! Davis ran a 4.68 and 4.69 Kelly 4.75 and 4.68 Let's just forget Kelly. We take Harvey at #11 and take a WR in round 2. There will be one or two and if Kelly is there we take him! How would that look..... Harvey and Kelly!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmyk12 Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 That is too bad...Kelly looks like he could be a solid pro, but definately not worth a day 1 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Fred Davis is faster than Kelly!!! Davis ran a 4.68 and 4.69 Kelly 4.75 and 4.68 Let's just forget Kelly. We take Harvey at #11 and take a WR in round 2. There will be one or two and if Kelly is there we take him! How would that look..... Harvey and Kelly!!!!! If I wouldn't take Kelly in R1 based on a 40 time, I wouldn't take him in R2, either. Taking him one round later won't suddenly make him fast enough to play. If his times continue to hold up until the draft, I think he'll drop into R3-4 territory, right around where the 'projects' start coming off the board. Myself, I think I'd just draft someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obie_wan Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 If I wouldn't take Kelly in R1 based on a 40 time, I wouldn't take him in R2, either. Taking him one round later won't suddenly make him fast enough to play. If his times continue to hold up until the draft, I think he'll drop into R3-4 territory, right around where the 'projects' start coming off the board. Myself, I think I'd just draft someone else. but he's really really tall. and 40 times are overrated- Lack of footspeed is actually a benefit -- with no footspeed, teams will not bother covering him. He will be dynamite as a pro receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 but he's really really tall. and 40 times are overrated- Lack of footspeed is actually a benefit -- with no footspeed, teams will not bother covering him. He will be dynamite as a pro receiver. No separation though. I mean I suppose he could just stand upright and KE could throw balls to his upstretched hands... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sen. John Blutarsky Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 I mean I suppose he could just stand upright and KE could throw balls to his upstretched hands... That's my "Sign someone like Shaq as a goalline TE theory." I stand by my theory, shaq - or at least someone shaped like him, would be a red zone animal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBilliever Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Round 1-Otah/Merling or HarveyRound 2-Kelly Great idea, lets shell out massive cash to depth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sen. John Blutarsky Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 I hafta believe the #1 is going to be a corner or a move down now. Unless an Ellis falls in our laps. DRC round 1, WR (Hardy or the ilk) in rd 2, Flowers in rd 3 since he ran for crap as well. After that I dunno who I want. if Kelly drops like a rock ( which I suspect he might) I'd be interested in 3rd round or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billnutinphoenix Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Let's face it...Bills will not pick Kelly at #11 nor will they pick Hardy at #11 due to character issues (too many to mention)...Sweed is a reach at #11 and the only WR Bills may consider is Devin Thomas and he'd be too high at #11...So, I actually see the Bills either trading down or picking for value - T Chris Williams, CB McKelvin, T Otah (remember the last time we picked a Pitt OL in the 1st Round), or someone who slips unexpectedly to us (Sedrick Ellis) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherman Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Great idea, lets shell out massive cash to depth! Otah upgrade to Butler and eventual successor to Walker Merling/Harvey - Better than Kelsay/Denney We upgrade at important positions and create depth with palyers that have experience. Also, they may be the best players available at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OklahomaBill Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Word down here is that he also got into it with the coaching staff in front of the scouts. Apparently, he is not happy with them. He didn't like the surface that was run on. The local sports talk guy also mentioned that the Bills staff spent a lot of time with Kelly after the workout trying to convince him it wasn't that big of a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Word down here is that he also got into it with the coaching staff in front of the scouts. Apparently, he is not happy with them. He didn't like the surface that was run on. The local sports talk guy also mentioned that the Bills staff spent a lot of time with Kelly after the workout trying to convince him it wasn't that big of a deal. That *might* be very interesting. Its too bad that more Sooners didn't run at the combine so we could see if the entire group ran poorly compared to their times at Indy. CB Marcus Walker did, in fact, run about .2 slower today than at his combine workout, so it might be something worth checking into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Fred Davis is faster than Kelly!!! Davis ran a 4.68 and 4.69 Kelly 4.75 and 4.68 Let's just forget Kelly. We take Harvey at #11 and take a WR in round 2. There will be one or two and if Kelly is there we take him! How would that look..... Harvey and Kelly!!!!! So he's a lousy 1st round pick but a great 2nd round pick........not in my book. This guy is a 3rd rounder. Any earlier and I'll be surprised and pissed. There are better options at WR and other positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Let's face it...Bills will not pick Kelly at #11 nor will they pick Hardy at #11 due to character issues (too many to mention)...Sweed is a reach at #11 and the only WR Bills may consider is Devin Thomas and he'd be too high at #11...So, I actually see the Bills either trading down or picking for value - T Chris Williams, CB McKelvin, T Otah (remember the last time we picked a Pitt OL in the 1st Round), or someone who slips unexpectedly to us (Sedrick Ellis) I love this. Keyboard GM's making definitive statements on reaches and value from the comfort of their homes. "he'd be too high at 11... ." How the hell do you know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OklahomaBill Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 That *might* be very interesting. Its too bad that more Sooners didn't run at the combine so we could see if the entire group ran poorly compared to their times at Indy. CB Marcus Walker did, in fact, run about .2 slower today than at his combine workout, so it might be something worth checking into. I agree but Lofton shaved about one second off his time at OU's pro day. It was held on a surface that is closer to what is run at the combine and most NFL surfaces. It is the same surface OU has run on the past several testing so it shouldn't have been a surprise to Kelly. Kelly claimed he ran a 4.5 ont he surface as a freshman and OU's strength coach backed that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 I love this. Keyboard GM's making definitive statements on reaches and value from the comfort of their homes. "he'd be too high at 11... ." How the hell do you know that? Pretty much everyone knows that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Otah upgrade to Butler and eventual successor to Walker walker still has 4 years remaining on his contract, no need to get his replacement yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 No separation though. I mean I suppose he could just stand upright and KE could throw balls to his upstretched hands... Even in the films against college competition there is no separation. He does catch the ball though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts