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I heard a stat that the Laffs lead the league by a huge margin in 5 on 3's. Can anybody verify that? It wouldn't surprise me in the least. These jokers are the freakin Yankees of the NHL.

 

Wrong. The Yankees actually won championships :flirt:

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I heard a stat that the Laffs lead the league by a huge margin in 5 on 3's. Can anybody verify that? It wouldn't surprise me in the least. These jokers are the freakin Yankees of the NHL.

The Sabres had a 5 on 3 tonight too, and it was completely terrible. Even with the two PP goals tonight, the Sabres PP has been awful since Connolly was hurt. It's not a coincidence.

 

Oh, and for the 50th consecutive game, the Sabres were physically dominated all up and down the ice. Are they really supposed to be able to survive five more months of abuse and win the Cup?

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Oh, and for the 50th consecutive game, the Sabres were physically dominated all up and down the ice. Are they really supposed to be able to survive five more months of abuse and win the Cup?

 

31 wins in 43 games...Seems like this physical domination other teams are handing out is really hurting the Sabres...

 

Let's not forget that the Sabres started a game in Chicago at 8pm last night, finished at 11pm, showered, did some press, went to the airport, flew to Buffalo, drove home, and probably got to bed sometime around 3am. The Leafs, on the other hand, took a leisurely drive down the Quewy yesterday morning, had a light practice at HSBC in the early afternoon, probably had a very nice team dinner, and relaxed in their beds at the hotel all night.

 

It's a little easier to physically dominate when you can actually move your legs. This is the second game in a row, by the way...The Sabres beat the Leafs in TO last Saturday after playing Friday night, while the Leafs had Friday off...

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31 wins in 43 games...Seems like this physical domination other teams are handing out is really hurting the Sabres...

Because Lord knows no.1 seeds always win the Cup. :pirate:

 

The Sabres are just plain soft. Any team that wants to dominate them physically can do so. When we had Connolly last year, the team was so explosive that they made teams pay for it (with PP goals) when they took liberties with our players. Now the Sabres get beat up constantly and look afraid to go to the net at times. And playoff hockey is a whole different animal. It's half endurance test and half fight for survival.

 

Last year I was convinced they'd win the Cup and now I'm a lot more skeptical. Even with the extra wins, this year's team has a worse PP and less toughness. It seems like a less balanced team.

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Because Lord knows no.1 seeds always win the Cup. :pirate:

 

So they should punish teams physically, but lose?

 

It's the NHL. They're barely halfway through the season, and if you count the 20+ playoff games they hope to play, they're nowhere near the halfway point. These are the dog days, and you if you expect the Sabres to bring it every night, you're in for a surprise. There's not a team in the league that can do that. They didn't lose tonight because the Leafs were more physical...They lost because they started a game tonight 20 hours after they finished their game yesterday in a different time zone, all while the Leafs rested.

 

If this lack of toughness is such an issue, how are they winning 75% of their games? 75% of the time, other teams just choose not to get physical with them?

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Because Lord knows no.1 seeds always win the Cup. :pirate:

 

The Sabres are just plain soft. Any team that wants to dominate them physically can do so. When we had Connolly last year, the team was so explosive that they made teams pay for it (with PP goals) when they took liberties with our players. Now the Sabres get beat up constantly and look afraid to go to the net at times. And playoff hockey is a whole different animal. It's half endurance test and half fight for survival.

 

Last year I was convinced they'd win the Cup and now I'm a lot more skeptical. Even with the extra wins, this year's team has a worse PP and less toughness. It seems like a less balanced team.

Great points. Over the last few games they have not been finishing PP and PK has let them down. Teams seem to have had success trapping them and really standing up to the dabres in the neutral zone. I can't count how many times someone tried to carry it in and then get checked off the puck.

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If this lack of toughness is such an issue, how are they winning 75% of their games? 75% of the time, other teams just choose not to get physical with them?
The winning percentage for most teams tends to decrease in the playoffs. :pirate:

 

They're winning because they're probably the most talented team in the NHL and that's going to win you a ton of games in the regular season. But, like I said, the playoffs are a whole different thing. You're playing every other night against great teams for two months. It's a war of attrition, and I think it's a lot harder to win if you can't wear the other team down as much as they're wearing you down.

 

Enough about the 20 hours thing; I really don't care. My point is that this year's team seems less built for the playoffs (as of right now) than last year's team did and that's an opinion I've formed after watching basically every game this season. I think they've taken a small step back. I like the team we went into the playoffs with last year better than the one we have right now.

 

The Sabres need to acquire 1-2 gritty players to add a physical element to the team again (which they're in a great position to do since so many teams covet their players) and hope Tim Connolly makes it back. Basically the powerplay sucks because they don't have Connolly around to run the thing anymore. And what that means is other teams don't think twice about hitting our players. Who cares about taking a penalty against the team with the 19th best PP in the NHL?

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Because Lord knows no.1 seeds always win the Cup. :pirate:

 

The Sabres are just plain soft. Any team that wants to dominate them physically can do so. When we had Connolly last year, the team was so explosive that they made teams pay for it (with PP goals) when they took liberties with our players. Now the Sabres get beat up constantly and look afraid to go to the net at times. And playoff hockey is a whole different animal. It's half endurance test and half fight for survival.

 

Last year I was convinced they'd win the Cup and now I'm a lot more skeptical. Even with the extra wins, this year's team has a worse PP and less toughness. It seems like a less balanced team.

 

 

And yes, you said "always"... Which I get... Just another generalized post, the rest wan't bad... Do the math... -_-:thumbsup:

 

Read the thread at SabreSpace (good job BetweenThePipes!) about #1 seeds and the Prez Cup... You have WAY better odds when you accomplish those things... The odds of winning the Cup DROP drastically the lower you are seeded...

 

BreakDown

 

There's a flaw in this logic ... yeah, it's only 6 out of 19 (one year no Cup)... but there are 16 slots, and the #1 spot wins 30% of the time ... so that means the other 15 spots wins 70% of the time COMBINED ...

 

It's easy to say you want to be part of the 70%, but you only get to be one small part of that.

 

Because I am bored, I looked it up ... 6 out of 19 is the best ANY seed did ... here are the number of Cups won by other overall seeds since 1987:

 

2 - 1 Cup

3 - 4 Cups

4 - 2 Cups

5 - 2 Cups

6 - 2 Cups

7 - 1 Cup

8 - 0 Cups

9 - 1 Cup

10 or lower - 0 Cups

 

 

So ... You don't want to finish first overall? Pick another seed ... ANY other seed, and you are DECREASING you chances of winning it all by AT LEAST 50%, and that's for the 3 seed which has won 4 times. If you finish in ANY other spot, you are at least 3 times less likely to win.

 

The odds of winning it all are against you no matter what. Being the one team with a 30% chance in a 16-team field is pretty damn good.

 

Quite a myth has been mad about the Prez Cup... Go back the last 17 years and find out how many won?

 

Here is the thread:

 

Number One

 

 

This from Kelso's Helmet:

 

Something like 30% of the past President's Trophy winners have ended up winning the Stanley Cup...a stat from which we can infer little, IMO.

 

The bottom line is that being the #1 overall is almost always a good thing, unless:

 

A. Your team is a collection of overconfident, primadonna choke artists (Sabres don't strike me as that kind of team)

 

B. The #8 seed happens to be your worst nightmare matchup (Ottawa?)

 

C. You suck playing at home (not a problem with our Sabres, although we do happen to be a slightly better away team than home*** team)

 

*** - edited for JujuFish

 

 

 

Those are odds (NUMBER ONE SEED) I want!

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The winning percentage for most teams tends to decrease in the playoffs. :pirate:

 

They're winning because they're probably the most talented team in the NHL and that's going to win you a ton of games in the regular season. But, like I said, the playoffs are a whole different thing. You're playing every other night against great teams for two months. It's a war of attrition, and I think it's a lot harder to win if you can't wear the other team down as much as they're wearing you down.

 

Enough about the 20 hours thing; I really don't care. My point is that this year's team seems less built for the playoffs (as of right now) than last year's team did and that's an opinion I've formed after watching basically every game this season. I think they've taken a small step back. I like the team we went into the playoffs with last year better than the one we have right now.

 

The Sabres need to acquire 1-2 gritty players to add a physical element to the team again (which they're in a great position to do since so many teams covet their players) and hope Tim Connolly makes it back. Basically the powerplay sucks because they don't have Connolly around to run the thing anymore. And what that means is other teams don't think twice about hitting our players. Who cares about taking a penalty against the team with the 19th best PP in the NHL?

 

I admit... They need more grit... But that may change when they plau for all the marbles?

 

The powerplay sucked at times last year even with TC... It came around in the PO's though...

 

Same this year... Things will be fine...

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We sucked tonight and Marty gave up his typical soft goal, which this time killed us. The Leafs were better pretty much all night (plus they got plenty of help from the striped jokers, which they didn't need) and should have won by another couple.

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Didn't BFLO clank a couple off the pipes to? Chris Drury?

 

Even sucking up the ice... They still could have beat the Leafs with no sleep and tired skates...

 

But, they didn't... As Millbank said: "The score?"

 

Not making excuses... But through the crap... You can see BFLO is going places that Toronto fans can only dream about... Well of course wearing my rose-colored specs helps!

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Last year I was convinced they'd win the Cup and now I'm a lot more skeptical. Even with the extra wins, this year's team has a worse PP and less toughness. It seems like a less balanced team.

I don't want to come across as a naysayer, but I have that same sick feeling in my stomach. It just doesn't seem like this team was built for the playoffs. You gave up a lot of size and grit when you let McKee, Dumont, Grier and even Pyatt walk out the door.

 

I know that anything can happen come playoff time, so I guess I'll just keep my fingers crossed.

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