IBTG81 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 It's time for me to look for a new job. I'm tired of the field I'm in, and want to switch gears completely. That being said... Is it tacky to apply for more than one job opening within the same company? For example, GSK. They have a job open for a Pharm. Rep for Vaccines, and one open for Drugs themselves. They both interest me. Should I apply for only one, or can I do both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Is it tacky to apply for more than one job opening within the same company?For example, GSK. They have a job open for a Pharm. Rep for Vaccines, and one open for Drugs themselves. They both interest me. Should I apply for only one, or can I do both? 780991[/snapback] As long as you do not send the same cover letter (form letter), then there is no problem with it, IMO. Cover letters are designed for the specific job to which you are applying. Just leave out the "Horrible Human Being" part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted September 20, 2006 Author Share Posted September 20, 2006 As long as you do not send the same cover letter (form letter), then there is no problem with it, IMO. Cover letters are designed for the specific job to which you are applying. Just leave out the "Horrible Human Being" part. 780999[/snapback] Thanks Ken! I was going to send them a link to that thread, along with the "My Fit is cooler than your Prius" thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 As long as you do not send the same cover letter (form letter), then there is no problem with it, IMO. Cover letters are designed for the specific job to which you are applying. Just leave out the "Horrible Human Being" part. 780999[/snapback] Quite so. Tailor the letter to the responsibilities. I'm amazed at the widespread idiocy in employment ads, such as "must have excellent communication skills", and ads that do not begin to describe what the company does and what tasks are to be filled. Probably those companies would be better served by caning the idiots that spend company money in the publishing of such insipid pap. Many a personnel department deserves heavy wackings with a stout stick. It's the only company department that hires "generalists", who then show up with a list of "specifics" at an interview ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 As long as you do not send the same cover letter (form letter), then there is no problem with it, IMO. Cover letters are designed for the specific job to which you are applying. Just leave out the "Horrible Human Being" part. 780999[/snapback] Unless of course they are both routed through the same HR person, who will inevitably think "wow, how desperate is this guy to find a job!" Ed -- I seem to recall you were switching careers a couple of years ago too. Note of advice: it's hard to ever rise above the entry level crap jobs if you keep changing your field of expertise. Good luck tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted September 20, 2006 Author Share Posted September 20, 2006 Unless of course they are both routed through the same HR person, who will inevitably think "wow, how desperate is this guy to find a job!"Ed -- I seem to recall you were switching careers a couple of years ago too. Note of advice: it's hard to ever rise above the entry level crap jobs if you keep changing your field of expertise. Good luck tho. 781047[/snapback] I didn't switch a few years back. I just couldn't find a job! Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Unless of course they are both routed through the same HR person, who will inevitably think "wow, how desperate is this guy to find a job!"Ed -- I seem to recall you were switching careers a couple of years ago too. Note of advice: it's hard to ever rise above the entry level crap jobs if you keep changing your field of expertise. Good luck tho. 781047[/snapback] While you may be right. You're still giving the HR department WAY to much credit. I know, you know, what I know, what you know, what I mean. Some of those HR babes are pretty tight though, Yeah baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopsGuy Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Not bad form at all, especially since you're young and your resume will make that obvious. I have a friend that started out as a rep for Merck and now he's a regional sales manager in Chicago. He's done very well for himself. It's purely a sales job, so you must like sales which is a lot of hustling. I've met many sales people that truly believe that they've never worked a day in their lives. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 It's time for me to look for a new job. I'm tired of the field I'm in, and want to switch gears completely. That being said... Is it tacky to apply for more than one job opening within the same company? For example, GSK. They have a job open for a Pharm. Rep for Vaccines, and one open for Drugs themselves. They both interest me. Should I apply for only one, or can I do both? 780991[/snapback] Wait a minute. GSK had a job opening for Vaccines and one for Drugs themselves and you're applying for both? Go for the Drugs man, the Drugs!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taterhill Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 drug rep?...how is your rack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted September 20, 2006 Author Share Posted September 20, 2006 drug rep?...how is your rack? 781102[/snapback] Not too bad. I like to look at 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taterhill Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Not too bad. I like to look at 'em. 781104[/snapback] so do doctors.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Coli Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 It's time for me to look for a new job. I'm tired of the field I'm in, and want to switch gears completely. That being said... Is it tacky to apply for more than one job opening within the same company? For example, GSK. They have a job open for a Pharm. Rep for Vaccines, and one open for Drugs themselves. They both interest me. Should I apply for only one, or can I do both? 780991[/snapback] Not sure how GSK does it, but most Big Pharma HR systems use the e-submission forms/programs now, because they get so many CVs/Resume's. Make sure you set yourself up with two versions, one nicely formatted like you've been told, and one text-only without the bells and whistles (ie bullets, bold type, italics, etc). The bells and whistles will not format into the e-submission, and if someone eventually goes to print it out it will look terrible. You'll more-than-likely need a text-only version of your cover letter as well. Usually, there is a way to upload your formatted resume and cover letters at the end of the e-submission process. For your CV/resume', load it up with key words for the jobs you are interested in. An HR person is going to go into the e-submitted database, and do a database query for applicants by keyword. You don't need to stick a list on there, but it helps to have them somewhere in document. I'm going to be brutally honest with you, Ed. Unless you know someone on the inside it will be hard to break into Big Pharma. All my jobs in the industry have come via inside contacts. Now, I have absolutely nothing to do with sales, so maybe it's handled a different way. But I suspect sales may be even more competitive than the research side, because there are fewer positions, and they're expected to move a ton of product. I'm not trying to discourage you..it's just the reality of the industry. Maybe someone involved in Pharma-sales would like to chime in here, or perhaps you know someone yourself for more specific advice. Good luck to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC-Bills Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 As long as you do not send the same cover letter (form letter), then there is no problem with it, IMO. Cover letters are designed for the specific job to which you are applying. Just leave out the "Horrible Human Being" part. 780999[/snapback] I have to disagree with you here, Ken. I think that he should leave "Horrible Human Being" in his resume and actually put it in his cover letter. "Stick with your strengths" is what I always say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC-Bills Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Oh btw, good luck with your searches Ed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Some of those HR babes are pretty tight though, Yeah baby! 781057[/snapback] I don't know nuthin' about that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Doesn't GSK have an internal job posting site for employees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Doesn't GSK have an internal job posting site for employees? 781334[/snapback] Probably. Most large companies have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 GSK...great company...good luck there...next, try Merck, then Lilly...stay away from Pfizer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 GSK...great company...good luck there...next, try Merck, then Lilly...stay away from Pfizer. 781640[/snapback] Public service note: Support all of them so KRC has job security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kegtapr Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Public service note: Support all of them so KRC has job security. 781661[/snapback] Or, throw KRC under the bus and buy generic versions in Canada when available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Or, throw KRC under the bus and buy generic versions in Canada when available. 781716[/snapback] yeah, and get 1/10 of the dose you think you're taking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kegtapr Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 yeah, and get 1/10 of the dose you think you're taking. 781718[/snapback] How do you figure. 10mg is 10mg is it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 why am I not surprised that you have been attracted to two fields that are dominated by women? Have you considered being a seamstress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 How do you figure. 10mg is 10mg is it not? 781721[/snapback] sure 10mgs of what? The FDA purchased what was supposed to be generic Ambien, Lipitor, and Viagra from a site selling "Canadian generics" in July 2004 and found that all the samples were either super- or sub-potent. The Lipitor and Viagra also contained impurities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Or, throw KRC under the bus and buy generic versions in Canada when available. 781716[/snapback] We really need to get that F-You smilie back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kegtapr Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 sure 10mgs of what? The FDA purchased what was supposed to be generic Ambien, Lipitor, and Viagra from a site selling "Canadian generics" in July 2004 and found that all the samples were either super- or sub-potent. The Lipitor and Viagra also contained impurities. 781729[/snapback] Well, whatever I'm getting works for me just like the brand name here in America. I don't doubt what you say though. Zyrtec (known as Reactine in Canada, which is what I buy) is actually an over-the-counter drug in Canada so that may be a difference. You can get the same product off the shelf in a drug store as I buy online. I wouldn't buy a generic drug you need a prescription for in Canada. My sister (she's a pharmacist) actually recommended it to me. I pay $0.29 a pill vs. $1.00 a pill from my $30 copay for a months supply. Is it stronger/weaker? Maybe, but it works just like the original for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted September 21, 2006 Author Share Posted September 21, 2006 why am I not surprised that you have been attracted to two fields that are dominated by women? Have you considered being a seamstress? 781725[/snapback] Dominated by women? Guess you haven't been out too much lately... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Dominated by women? Guess you haven't been out too much lately... 781945[/snapback] My wife is a pharmacist and I have been to pharmacy conventions... Her sister was a rep for Merck and her husband is manager at Lilly. I'm well aware of this FEMALE dominated industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 My wife is a pharmacist and I have been to pharmacy conventions... Her sister was a rep for Merck and her husband is manager at Lilly. I'm well aware of this FEMALE dominated industry. 782008[/snapback] I'm suprised you're not a part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 My wife is a pharmacist and I have been to pharmacy conventions... Her sister was a rep for Merck and her husband is manager at Lilly. I'm well aware of this FEMALE dominated industry. 782008[/snapback] Pharma has definitely enacted the "hot chicks can sell" sales methodology. They are everywhere in New York. I dated 3 last year, all hotties. By the way Ed, I think this link can provide you with some alternative guidance: http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2006/07/1...ever-get-a-job/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 GSK...great company...good luck there...next, try Merck, then Lilly...stay away from Pfizer. 781640[/snapback] What about Wyeth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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