LabattBlue Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 I'm wondering here: if the Bears match, we can't counter? 635445[/snapback] One and done. If the Bears match, he is under contract to them and is no longer an RFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 This is very sharp indeed. Even in the event that we don't get the players we've forced a couple of teams to use up valuable cap dollars in an effort to retain their players. 634909[/snapback] And in the process done nothing to improve. Bravo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 Bills | Chicago thinking over Idonije offer sheet Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:32:49 -0800 John Mullin and K.C. Johnson, of the Chicago Tribune, report the Chicago Bears will have further internal discussions Monday, March 20, on whether to match the four-year, $8.2 million offer sheet that restricted free agent DL Israel Idonije signed with the Buffalo Bills. The Bears are leaning toward doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatPatPatSack Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Bills | Chicago thinking over Idonije offer sheetSun, 19 Mar 2006 21:32:49 -0800 John Mullin and K.C. Johnson, of the Chicago Tribune, report the Chicago Bears will have further internal discussions Monday, March 20, on whether to match the four-year, $8.2 million offer sheet that restricted free agent DL Israel Idonije signed with the Buffalo Bills. The Bears are leaning toward doing so. 635741[/snapback] Somebody help me out here. According to this story http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Football/NFL/200...498418-sun.html Israel gets his $1.8m signing bonus EVEN IF THE BEARS MATCH? Is the author wacked or is that really how it works? And then how does that count against the salary cap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gross Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Somebody help me out here. According to this story http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Football/NFL/200...498418-sun.html Israel gets his $1.8m signing bonus EVEN IF THE BEARS MATCH? Is the author wacked or is that really how it works? And then how does that count against the salary cap? 637500[/snapback] Ummmm, yeah, that's the point of "matching." If the Bears choose to "match" the offer, that means they have to pay him a $1.8M signing bonus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills7834 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Somebody help me out here. According to this story http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Football/NFL/200...498418-sun.html Israel gets his $1.8m signing bonus EVEN IF THE BEARS MATCH? Is the author wacked or is that really how it works? And then how does that count against the salary cap? 637500[/snapback] He gets the $1.8 million signing bonus wth the Bears if they decide to match the offer. Buffalo doesn't pay it if they match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooldudeav Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 patpatpatsack im with you. If we go after rfa we should probably watch how we phrase ''signing bonus'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobinaz Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 i read that the rfa defensive tackle from the bears that the bills are courting will get the signing bonus from buffalo whether he comes here or not. i read it was 1.7 or 1.8 million. are the bills really that confident that the bears won't match their offer, or do they have money to burn? we lost out on wells, what's to say we'll get the guy from chicago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 Wide Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 It doesn't mean the Bills owe him the money no matter what....it means that he will get that contract, be it from the Bills or the Bears no matter what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 he will not get it from the bills . the bills put that in his offer . bears would have to match it > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobinaz Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 he will not get it from the bills . the bills put that in his offer . bears would have to match it > 637798[/snapback] ok, i understand it better now..thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasker Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 He played 11 games with 16 tackles ? Wow what a pickup this guy would be. It's so sad how you guys are so willing to hang onto anything no matter how insignificant it is. Here is a novel idea. Lets go after a player who may actualy help the Bills. The Jets seem willing to part with John Abraham? Why not make a play? All this garbage picking the Bills are doing is nuts. 635240[/snapback] Abraham? Do you really think that is the best way to spend limited resources? That his value would exceed his cost? If a deal could be worked that would make him a good value, then I'm all for it. As a small market team, but really any team in a salary cap league, our goal is to get value in players, whether a big talent big paycheck or small talent small paycheck. Getting a big name sucks if he costs too much and limits the team in other areas, getting a small talent sucks if he costs more than he is worth too. I am not enough of a football superfan to know if Idonije is worth it or not, but if his value is more than his cost then he makes sense. The "Let's get Petyon Manning and Julius Peppers and Ladaiman Tomlinson and Jonothan Ogden or we are a bunch of losers and Marv should be run out of town" mentality just doesn't work. Let's make deals that improve this team and are good value at every level. Whether some of that is considered "garbage picking" by you doesn't matter. I think a lot of New England's moves in recent years would be considered garbage picking. I'd rather follow that philosophy than the Redskins method you are suggesting. What I really hope is we can get some big talent bigger name values too, but each aquisition needs to make sense as a good value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 i read that the rfa defensive tackle from the bears that the bills are courting will get the signing bonus from buffalo whether he comes here or not. i read it was 1.7 or 1.8 million. are the bills really that confident that the bears won't match their offer, or do they have money to burn? we lost out on wells, what's to say we'll get the guy from chicago? 637785[/snapback] Maybe Idonije will end up being a gift because the Bears wouldn't let us have Bob Babich as our D-coordinator when they blocked us from interviewing him by naming him assistant head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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