2003 Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Resign- CB Nate Clements, DT Ron Edwards, DE Ryan Denney, CB Kevin Thomas, OL Greg Jerman, LS Mike Shneck, OT Jason Peters, WR Sam Aiken, LB Mario Haggan, LB Josh Stamer, RB Shaud Williams, CB Jabari Greer, WR Jonathan "Freddy" Smith. Cut- OG Bennie Anderson, OL Mike Williams, WR Eric Moulds, Ryan Neufield, TE Mark Campbell, LB Jeff Posey Sign- OG Tonui Fonoti, DE Raheem Brock, WR Antonio Bryant. DRAFT 1. Haloti Ngata, DT http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~kwiest/halotingata/ 2. Jon Scott, OT http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...athanscott.html 3a. Dominique Byrd, TE http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...iniquebyrd.html 3b. Kevin Boothe, OG http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...evinboothe.html 4. Jerome Harrison, RB Click On his video, it's sweet! 5. Marcus Hudson, S http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...rcushudson.html 6. Josh Lay, CB http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...cb/joshlay.html 7. Garrett Mills, FB http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...rrettmills.html DEPTH CHART (Red= Rookie) (Bold= FA Signing) QB- J. Losman, K. Holcomb, T. Woodbury RB- W. McGahee, J. Harrison, S. Williams FB- D. Shelton, G. Mills WR- L. Evans, A. Bryant, R. Parrish, S. Aiken, J. Smith TE- K. Everett, D. Byrd, T. Euhus LT- J. Peters,M. Gandy, G. Jerman LG- T. Fonoti/ K. Boothe (competition) C- D. Preston, G. Jerman RG- C. Villareal, J. Geisinger RT- J. Scott,M. Gandy, D. Mcfarland LE- R. Brock, C. Kelsay, R. Denney DT- S. Adams, H. Ngata, R. Edwards, T. Anderson RE- A. Schobel, C. Kelsay, R. Denney LOLB- A. Crowell, J. Stamer MLB- L. Fletcher, M. Haggan ROLB- T. Spikes, J. Stamer CB- N. Clements, T. McGee, K. Thomas, J. Greer, J. Lay FS- T. Vincent, R. Baker, J. Leonhard SS- L. Milloy, M. Hudson, C. Wire K- Lindell P- Moorman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrite Gal Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Not unreasonable at all, but I am curious why you are so up on Jerman and down on Gandy that you have them in the depth chart positions you have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003 Posted February 19, 2006 Author Share Posted February 19, 2006 Not unreasonable at all, but I am curious why you are so up on Jerman and down on Gandy that you have them in the depth chart positions you have them. 606691[/snapback] I dunno, but I'll fix that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 Resign- CB Nate Clements, DT Ron Edwards, DE Ryan Denney, CB Kevin Thomas, OL Greg Jerman, LS Mike Shneck, OT Jason Peters, WR Sam Aiken, LB Mario Haggan, LB Josh Stamer, RB Shaud Williams, CB Jabari Greer, WR Jonathan "Freddy" Smith. Cut- OG Bennie Anderson, OL Mike Williams, WR Eric Moulds, Ryan Neufield, TE Mark Campbell, LB Jeff Posey Sign- OG Tonui Fonoti, DE Raheem Brock, WR Antonio Bryant. DRAFT 1. Haloti Ngata, DT http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~kwiest/halotingata/ 2. Jon Scott, OT http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...athanscott.html 3a. Dominique Byrd, TE http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...iniquebyrd.html 3b. Kevin Boothe, OG http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...evinboothe.html 4. Jerome Harrison, RB Click On his video, it's sweet! 5. Marcus Hudson, S http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...rcushudson.html 6. Josh Lay, CB http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...cb/joshlay.html 7. Garrett Mills, FB http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...rrettmills.html DEPTH CHART (Red= Rookie) (Bold= FA Signing) QB- J. Losman, K. Holcomb, T. Woodbury RB- W. McGahee, J. Harrison, S. Williams FB- D. Shelton, G. Mills WR- L. Evans, A. Bryant, R. Parrish, S. Aiken, J. Smith TE- K. Everett, D. Byrd, T. Euhus LT- J. Peters,M. Gandy, G. Jerman LG- T. Fonoti/ K. Boothe (competition) C- D. Preston, G. Jerman RG- C. Villareal, J. Geisinger RT- J. Scott,M. Gandy, D. Mcfarland LE- R. Brock, C. Kelsay, R. Denney DT- S. Adams, H. Ngata, R. Edwards, T. Anderson RE- A. Schobel, C. Kelsay, R. Denney LOLB- A. Crowell, J. Stamer MLB- L. Fletcher, M. Haggan ROLB- T. Spikes, J. Stamer CB- N. Clements, T. McGee, K. Thomas, J. Greer, J. Lay FS- T. Vincent, R. Baker, J. Leonhard SS- L. Milloy, M. Hudson, C. Wire K- Lindell P- Moorman 606690[/snapback] It's difficult to tell which approach the Bills will take in free agency because it remains to be seen how much say Marv has. During Levy/Butler's tenure, the Bills seemed to focus on quality performing, self-motivated players and they paid well for them and got results. Paup, Washington, Jeffcoat, Spielman. As an example, in the Butler era, the Bills would have actively pursued Mike Wahle instead of shopping for bargains like Bennie Anderson. Donahoe had one offseason where he spent freely, but otherwise he has been shopping the bargain basement and replacing young expensive players like Jennings and Winfield, with older stop-gaps like Mike Gandy and Troy Vincent. I think his approach didn't bring in difference makers and he failed to identify ascending players in FA. Your approach seems to be trying to bring in underachievers with the talent to be differnce makers and hope to find the next Gerard Warren or Koren Robinson. That's OK in moderation, and it's something TD failed miserably at, but there doesn't appear to be any attempt to find self-motivated, core players in your approach. The Bills have actually had a significant talent drain in the past two offseasons, and IMO they need to bring in some high QUALITY proven talent on the O-line in order to advance their heavy investments in guys like Losman, Evans, McGahee, Parrish and Everett. Fonoti, Preston, Vallarial and Jon Scott = a wing and a prayer. If they have to pay thru the nose for it, so be it. Consider it money horded the past two offseasons. It may turn out that the Bills can't do enough in one offseason to be a wild-card contender, but if nothing else, they must find a way to open up the field for the talent in house and allow it to develop, and that's by bolstering the O-line first and foremost and then the D-line second, and everything else a very distant third. It's important to do that in free agency, because the draft should be about getting the best available players if at all possible. I guess, in short, my opinion is that sometimes you patch holes in free agency, but this time the Bills need to do more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 I guess, in short, my opinion is that sometimes you patch holes in free agency, but this time the Bills need to do more than that. 606773[/snapback] I agree, but I truthfully doubt that it will be possible to bring in enough free agents for the Bills to be a playoff team, unless Hutchinson somehow finds himself a UFA, and we can bring him in for OT money (remember our conversation about this at RWS? ) That said, I don't care that much, providing that we bring in some good blockers via the draft. Players such as Jean-Gilles and Setterstrom will be there for the taking. Imo, eith might out produce what we currently have in their rookie season, and get that much better in year 2. Marv is talking a good game. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted February 19, 2006 Share Posted February 19, 2006 I really don't think the Bills are that far away from being a contender. Sign a free agent or two for the OL, get Everett back, new offense can't be anywhere near as ineffective as last year. Remember the Bills had the best "first drive of the game" offense in the league. After that, they were horrible. They just need to design a good offense around the talent they have. I hope they keep Moulds. The return of Spikes and the drafting of Ngata, and the return of Ron Edwards will help this defense get back near the top of the league. I don't care for the twin middle aged safety concept. They should go after a pass rush guy to complement Schobel. There is talent on this team. And I hope the new regime can draw the talent out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quester74 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 I really don't think the Bills are that far away from being a contender. Sign a free agent or two for the OL, get Everett back, new offense can't be anywhere near as ineffective as last year. 606882[/snapback] Jeez, I remember saying something to that effect after Drew's last season with us, and before Losman's 1st year as the "co-starter".. Hell, all JP had to be was AS GOOD as Drew was (which sucked horribly) and we'd be at least 9-7 again. So much for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Jeez, I remember saying something to that effect after Drew's last season with us, and before Losman's 1st year as the "co-starter".. Hell, all JP had to be was AS GOOD as Drew was (which sucked horribly) and we'd be at least 9-7 again. So much for that. 606892[/snapback] I'm entitled to my optimism, and you're entitled to your pessimism. Having Marv back gives me hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneonta Buffalo Fan Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 #1: Get a new LT, but keep Gandy as a backup. #2: DON'T CUT MOULDS! #3: Get a new DE (maybe.) #4: Find a good backup for Villarrial. #5: Keep Peters at RT. #6: Move Parrish to the #3 spot at WR. #7: Move Evans to the #1 spot at WR. #8: Cut Reed! #9: Keep Ron Edwards a backup NT as well as Bannan. #10: GET NGATA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <- A MUST! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB2004 Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 #1: Get a new LT, but keep Gandy as a backup.#2: DON'T CUT MOULDS! #3: Get a new DE (maybe.) #4: Find a good backup for Villarrial. #5: Keep Peters at RT. #6: Move Parrish to the #3 spot at WR. #7: Move Evans to the #1 spot at WR. #8: Cut Reed! #9: Keep Ron Edwards a backup NT as well as Bannan. 606944[/snapback] I agree, it would be great if for some reason Ferguson could fall to us at #8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Resign- CB Nate Clements, DT Ron Edwards, DE Ryan Denney, CB Kevin Thomas, OL Greg Jerman, LS Mike Shneck, OT Jason Peters, WR Sam Aiken, LB Mario Haggan, LB Josh Stamer, RB Shaud Williams, CB Jabari Greer, WR Jonathan "Freddy" Smith. Cut- OG Bennie Anderson, OL Mike Williams, WR Eric Moulds, Ryan Neufield, TE Mark Campbell, LB Jeff Posey Sign- OG Tonui Fonoti, DE Raheem Brock, WR Antonio Bryant. DRAFT 1. Haloti Ngata, DT http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~kwiest/halotingata/ 2. Jon Scott, OT http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...athanscott.html 3a. Dominique Byrd, TE http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...iniquebyrd.html 3b. Kevin Boothe, OG http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...evinboothe.html 4. Jerome Harrison, RB Click On his video, it's sweet! 5. Marcus Hudson, S http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...rcushudson.html 6. Josh Lay, CB http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...cb/joshlay.html 7. Garrett Mills, FB http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingr...rrettmills.html DEPTH CHART (Red= Rookie) (Bold= FA Signing) QB- J. Losman, K. Holcomb, T. Woodbury RB- W. McGahee, J. Harrison, S. Williams FB- D. Shelton, G. Mills WR- L. Evans, A. Bryant, R. Parrish, S. Aiken, J. Smith TE- K. Everett, D. Byrd, T. Euhus LT- J. Peters,M. Gandy, G. Jerman LG- T. Fonoti/ K. Boothe (competition) C- D. Preston, G. Jerman RG- C. Villareal, J. Geisinger RT- J. Scott,M. Gandy, D. Mcfarland LE- R. Brock, C. Kelsay, R. Denney DT- S. Adams, H. Ngata, R. Edwards, T. Anderson RE- A. Schobel, C. Kelsay, R. Denney LOLB- A. Crowell, J. Stamer MLB- L. Fletcher, M. Haggan ROLB- T. Spikes, J. Stamer CB- N. Clements, T. McGee, K. Thomas, J. Greer, J. Lay FS- T. Vincent, R. Baker, J. Leonhard SS- L. Milloy, M. Hudson, C. Wire K- Lindell P- Moorman 606690[/snapback] Oh great....while the opposing QB has time for tea back there--our middle aged safeties will be chasing down those WRs on the deep patterns. Please--lets get a real DE and an O-lineman instead of Bryant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003 Posted February 20, 2006 Author Share Posted February 20, 2006 Oh great....while the opposing QB has time for tea back there--our middle aged safeties will be chasing down those WRs on the deep patterns. Please--lets get a real DE and an O-lineman instead of Bryant 607092[/snapback] Yea, bad decision im my part. The Bills should sign John Abraham... O wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Oh great....while the opposing QB has time for tea back there--our middle aged safeties will be chasing down those WRs on the deep patterns. Please--lets get a real DE and an O-lineman instead of Bryant 607092[/snapback] You really think Schobel, Adams, and Ngata would be a bad line???? Those guys would be be great together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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