Blue Chipper Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 We knew the Fish offered him a job but looks like Detroit, St. Louis and Atlanta have also contacted him per KFFL which is quoting the Miami Herald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 You may be mistaking pity, charity, or an aggressive agent knocking down doors for sincere, serious interest, here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVJ Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Its a written rule in the NFL. All fired coaches get hired as coordinators . They know they could be next...so they always help out their fallen comrades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyDingo Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Miami, hire this guy. Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frez Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Miami, hire this guy. Please. 576761[/snapback] Becareful what you wish for. Miami is a team on the rise unlike Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJsackedagain Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Becareful what you wish for. Miami is a team on the rise unlike Buffalo. 576764[/snapback] Yes, but what happens when MM gets ripped a new a--hole by Saban for a bad call in a game or the fans of Fishville start to bust on him for shabby calls ----- we he run and cry like he did in Buffalo and then resign??? Once a quitter, always a quitter!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Yes, but what happens when MM gets ripped a new a--hole by Saban for a bad call in a game or the fans of Fishville start to bust on him for shabby calls ----- we he run and cry like he did in Buffalo and then resign??? Once a quitter, always a quitter!!!! 576767[/snapback] once a quitter, always a quitter? have you ever quit a job before because you didn't like the job anymore and/or didn't have any faith in the organization you worked for? also, factor in that he knew he'd land a good job somewhere else. even if you haven't, you probably know that most people have and that it's not considered a bad thing. far from it, in fact -- most people consider it mentally healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Becareful what you wish for. Miami is a team on the rise unlike Buffalo. You mean like the Bills were LAST year? Saban hasn't impressed me yet and depending on how the Bills' coaching situation shakes out, I think the Bills could very well be better than the Dolphins next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 once a quitter, always a quitter? have you ever quit a job before because you didn't like the job anymore and/or didn't have any faith in the organization you worked for? also, factor in that he knew he'd land a good job somewhere else. even if you haven't, you probably know that most people have and that it's not considered a bad thing. far from it, in fact -- most people consider it mentally healthy. 576776[/snapback] It's certainly not a good career move to give up one of only 32 positions like it in the world, simply because you're "afraid" of the changes made within the organization. That's hardly a sign of mental toughness. Mularkey may get a coordinator job, but I doubt he'll be looked at seriously for a HC job for a very long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loadofmularkey Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Watch for that fake double reverse where Chris Chambers ends up throwing to the Miami fullback. It's gonna be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Why wouldn't MM be considered for an OC position? He did a good job as an OC at Pittsburgh. He's even more valuable now as he has some HC experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 once a quitter, always a quitter? have you ever quit a job before because you didn't like the job anymore and/or didn't have any faith in the organization you worked for? also, factor in that he knew he'd land a good job somewhere else. even if you haven't, you probably know that most people have and that it's not considered a bad thing. far from it, in fact -- most people consider it mentally healthy. 576776[/snapback] Been there, done that, and am better for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 once a quitter, always a quitter? have you ever quit a job before because you didn't like the job anymore and/or didn't have any faith in the organization you worked for? also, factor in that he knew he'd land a good job somewhere else. even if you haven't, you probably know that most people have and that it's not considered a bad thing. far from it, in fact -- most people consider it mentally healthy. 576776[/snapback] And he'll probably end up with a raise, like GW did. Sounds like a good career move to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 (edited) once a quitter, always a quitter? have you ever quit a job before because you didn't like the job anymore and/or didn't have any faith in the organization you worked for? also, factor in that he knew he'd land a good job somewhere else. even if you haven't, you probably know that most people have and that it's not considered a bad thing. far from it, in fact -- most people consider it mentally healthy. 576776[/snapback] I think this isn't really a good comparison. Sure, people quit jobs everyday. People from the deep fry operator at McDonald's to investment brokers on Wall Street. However, in this case, we're talking about someone at the pinnacle of their chosen profession in a testosterone filled, ultimate tough guy business. As Tom Jackson said, "At the end of the day, you're a professional and football is your business. What are you going to do at the end of the season? Cry and throw in the towel? No. You're a competitor. You're where you are because you are a great competitor. Disappointed? Sure. Give up? Forget it. You re-tool, move forward and try again next year." Mularkey was in one of the key positions of authority within the Bills organization. In some ways, he was the Buffalo Bills, at least the figurehead of the team on the field. For him to tuck tail and run because of the "organization's direction" is a fine example of the pot calling the kettle black. Perhaps Mularkey was not going to be involved in the decision making process any longer and if that is the case, then, yes, he was implicitly forced out. Only Mularkey truly knows why he decided to leave, and even if he was going public with the details, that would only be his perception of what happened. Still, I suspect that a large part of his decision to leave was simply the cumulative effects of his past decisions, such as, the QB yo-yo, the OC yo-yo, having veterans dis him, firing about half his staff, being TD's puppet, etc. That is, the "toxic environment" swirling around the team was one he helped to create. Edited January 22, 2006 by WillisIsAGod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 I think this isn't really a good comparison. There is quite a big difference between average Joe deep fry operator quitting his post at the McDonald's and a guy in an elite leadership position in a multi-billion dollar industry waking up one day and deciding to bolt their jobs. Mularkey was in one of the key positions of authority within the Bills organization. In some ways, he was the Buffalo Bills, at least the figurehead of the team on the field. For him to tuck tail and run because of the "organization's direction" is a fine example of the pot calling the kettle black. I suspect that a large part of his decision to leave was simply the cumulative effects of his own decisions, such as, the QB yo-yo, the OC yo-yo, having veterans dis him, firing about half his staff, being TD's puppet, etc. 576826[/snapback] You couldn't be more wrong in your assessment. Guys at the top of the career ladder have far more flexibility to walk away than a fry cook, as the fry cook is probably there because he absolutely has to. The fry cook also knows that Burger King won't hire him if they know that he simply up and walked out on McDonalds across the street. Mularkey was the No. 3 guy in the Bills organization, maybe #4 depending on Brandon's new status. It's obvious he didn't like that position as much as the prospect of being No. 6 guy in another organization, with a better shot to move up the ranks. Happens with executives all the time. How often do managers of acquired companies stick around with new bosses, even if they aren't fired by the new regime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Becareful what you wish for. Miami is a team on the rise unlike Buffalo. 576764[/snapback] I'm looking forward to a Gus Frerotte fake QB sneak and some 3-yard passes on 4th and 8 against the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 I think this isn't really a good comparison. There is quite a big difference between average Joe deep fry operator quitting his post at the McDonald's and a guy in an elite leadership position in a multi-billion dollar industry waking up one day and deciding to bolt their jobs. 576826[/snapback] Happens every day. Especially when more money and a better organization are involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 You couldn't be more wrong in your assessment. Guys at the top of the career ladder have far more flexibility to walk away than a fry cook, as the fry cook is probably there because he absolutely has to. The fry cook also knows that Burger King won't hire him if they know that he simply up and walked out on McDonalds across the street. Mularkey was the No. 3 guy in the Bills organization, maybe #4 depending on Brandon's new status. It's obvious he didn't like that position as much as the prospect of being No. 6 guy in another organization, with a better shot to move up the ranks. Happens with executives all the time. How often do managers of acquired companies stick around with new bosses, even if they aren't fired by the new regime? 576837[/snapback] BUt, we're not talking about middle managers at some dot com. How many other head coaches in the NFL have walked away from their jobs? Belichick? Not really, he already had the Patriots job lined up. NFL teams have plenty of front office shake-ups and coaching shake-ups and it is simply not true that one always goes hand in hand with the other. If Mularkey thinks he has a better upwards career path in the coaching profession as the QB coach in Atlanta than actually being an NFL head coach (which is the top job for a coach, btw -- his aspirations to be an owner notwithstanding ) are, well, a little bit tortured in their logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 BUt, we're not talking about middle managers at some dot com. How many other head coaches in the NFL have walked away from their jobs? Belichick? Not really, he already had the Patriots job lined up. NFL teams have plenty of front office shake-ups and coaching shake-ups and it is simply not true that one always goes hand in hand with the other. If Mularkey thinks he has a better upwards career path in the coaching profession as the QB coach in Atlanta than actually being an NFL head coach (which is the top job for a coach, btw -- his aspirations to be an owner notwithstanding ) are, well, a little bit tortured in their logic. 576860[/snapback] Yep, GW sure is suffering with that demotion he took to work in Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 You couldn't be more wrong in your assessment. Guys at the top of the career ladder have far more flexibility to walk away than a fry cook, as the fry cook is probably there because he absolutely has to. The fry cook also knows that Burger King won't hire him if they know that he simply up and walked out on McDonalds across the street. Mularkey was the No. 3 guy in the Bills organization, maybe #4 depending on Brandon's new status. It's obvious he didn't like that position as much as the prospect of being No. 6 guy in another organization, with a better shot to move up the ranks. 576837[/snapback] Gotta disagree with you, GG. Mularkey quit, in an industry where mental toughness and grit are the most prized characteristics. Do you think an owner is going to give the keys to the organization to MM any time soon? Hell freaking no. He's not moving up any ladder. The truth is that he WANTS to be OC or QB coach, where he can be under the radar and avoid the most heated scrutiny that apparently caused him so much disdain in Buffalo. What happened here is damning evidence that MM is not mentally tough -- something we certainly witnessed with the team itself in 2005. Just because the guy will still be able to make a very good living doesn't mean he did anything noble or "smart." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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