Mike Gandy considered for Pro Bowl??

[Orton's Arm]

I was shocked when I saw Mike Gandy's name on this guy's list of players to consider for the Pro Bowl. It reminds me of the days of Ruben Brown.

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9029928

[Crap Throwing Monkey]

I was shocked when I saw Mike Gandy's name on this guy's list of players to consider for the Pro Bowl. It reminds me of the days of Ruben Brown.

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9029928

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And Bennie Anderson's a lock for the Hall of Fame, I suppose?

[MadBuffaloDisease]

Yeah, but Gandy's "below average."

 

Rian Lindell also made that list.

 

How McGee didn't make "return specialist" thought makes me wonder about the list.

[drnykterstein]

That whole list is just stupid

 

Braylon Edwards and Lavar Arrington are both on there, neither of whome have started a game all season.

[Orton's Arm]

How McGee didn't make "return specialist" thought makes me wonder about the list.

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The list was of players who hadn't been selected to the Pro Bowl for the previous year, but who might deserve it this year. I wonder about the list too, but mainly because Gandy is on it.

[Tortured Soul]

I think the bigger question is how Moulds made it.

 

An explanation for Gandy - someone has to be considered from the line of the conference's third-leading rusher. And if you can't think of anyone in particular, by default it's the LT.

[Orton's Arm]

An explanation for Gandy - someone has to be considered from the line of the conference's third-leading rusher.  And if you can't think of anyone in particular, by default it's the LT.

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Your post, though depressing, rings true. It's too bad that at least in some circles, a player like Gandy is getting credit for yards which McGahee has generated largely on his own. I mean, it's not like Buffalo is another Denver. You could put a monkey behind Denver's line and he'd rush for over 1000 yards.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

I think the bigger question is how Moulds made it.

 

An explanation for Gandy - someone has to be considered from the line of the conference's third-leading rusher.  And if you can't think of anyone in particular, by default it's the LT.

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Stupid Post. Give the guy Credit.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Your post, though depressing, rings true. It's too bad that at least in some circles, a player like Gandy is getting credit for yards which McGahee has generated largely on his own. I mean, it's not like Buffalo is another Denver. You could put a monkey behind Denver's line and he'd rush for over 1000 yards.

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Another Stupid post.

 

I guess if McGahee had a good OL he would get 2,000 yards a year instead of 1600.

[The Dean]

Another Stupid post.

 

I guess if McGahee had a good OL he would get 2,000 yards a year instead of 1600.

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Well...yeah, if they ran as much. Isn't that just obvious?

[Orton's Arm]

Another Stupid post.

 

I guess if McGahee had a good OL he would get 2,000 yards a year instead of 1600.

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Um, I don't know how to tell you this, but it's not stupid to say that Buffalo's offensive line isn't as good as Denver's. On the contrary, it's an exercise in pointing out something that should be obvious to everyone.

[nodnarb]

This post comes off like the opinion of a guy who hasn't watched the games, or who doesn't know what he's looking at when he watches the games.

 

If you had watched the games, you might see that Gandy has been solid, consistent, and while not dominant, he has been impressive on the whole.

 

Benny Anderson has been a different story. I don't even think he's looked that good in run blocking. He has not panned out.

 

Gandy has. I hope Gandy stays with us long term, cuz you won't find many smart, athletic tackles who'll work for Gandy's salary.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Um, I don't know how to tell you this, but it's not stupid to say that Buffalo's offensive line isn't as good as Denver's. On the contrary, it's an exercise in pointing out something that should be obvious to everyone.

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Well If you want to think that I called the post stupid because I think the Bills OL is better then the Broncos OL, you can go ahead.

 

That wasnt what I was saying though. Saying McGahee gets all his yards on his own just isnt true.

 

You dont get as many yards as he gets if that were the case, Travis Henry either, who right now is in the dog house with the Titans, and not because of his drug problem, but because he is stinking up the joint.

[Ray]

Do you ever think that when you compare some of the Bills players to the rest of the league they actually fair pretty well? People and fans complain constantly about their O-lines in every NFL city. Maybe comparatively Gandy is not that bad. Look at the Jets, Pats and Miami. Who are their starting tackles?

[Orton's Arm]

Well If you want to think that I called the post stupid because I think the Bills OL is better then the Broncos OL, you can go ahead.

 

That wasnt what I was saying though.  Saying McGahee gets all his yards on his own just isnt true.

Nor is it what I said. I correctly wrote that McGahee generates yards "largely on his own."

[Orton's Arm]

Do you ever think that when you compare some of the Bills players to the rest of the league they actually fair pretty well?  People and fans complain constantly about their O-lines in every NFL city.  Maybe comparatively Gandy is not that bad.  Look at the Jets, Pats and Miami.  Who are their starting tackles?

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I'd take Matt Light--the Pats' starting tackle--over Gandy any day of the week.

[Nanker]

Well If you want to think that I called the post stupid because I think the Bills OL is better then the Broncos OL, you can go ahead.

 

That wasnt what I was saying though.  Saying McGahee gets all his yards on his own just isnt true.

 

You dont get as many yards as he gets if that were the case, Travis Henry either, who right now is in the dog house with the Titans, and not because of his drug problem, but because he is stinking up the joint.

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So the Titans' OLine is better than the Bills' whose OLine is better than the Bronco's?

Maybe Travis is stinking up the joint because he won't wear a Depends.

Oh, you mean he's gaining less-yards-than Willis even less-than when he was here in Buffalo getting less-yards-than Willis. And, if I'm understanding you correctly, Willis wouldn't get the yards he's gotten in Buffalo if he were running behind the OLine in Denver in Mike-the-Weasle Sha-na-na's scheme.

 

Hmmmm. I see, so Travis is a bigger disappointment in Tennessee than Willis is here.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

So the Titans' OLine is better than the Bills' whose OLine is better than the Bronco's?

Maybe Travis is stinking up the joint because he won't wear a Depends.

Oh, you mean he's gaining less-yards-than Willis even less-than when he was here in Buffalo getting less-yards-than Willis. And, if I'm understanding you correctly, Willis wouldn't get the yards he's gotten in Buffalo if he were running behind the OLine in Denver in Mike-the-Weasle Sha-na-na's scheme.

 

Hmmmm. I see, so Travis is a bigger disappointment in Tennessee than Willis is here. 

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Wow, you can write words, but can you out them together to make sense?

 

Anyone that says this OL sucks because Willis gets all his yards on his own doesnt know what they are talking about and probably doesnt watch any football, including the Bills.

 

I brought Henry up because he got nearly 1500 yards, followed by nearly 1400 yards in less games, followed by Willis getting nearly 1200 yards starting like 12 games, now he is on pace for 1600 yards, BUT, the OL sucks.

 

Can you please find me another team with a "bad OL" that has their starting RB getting on average around 1400-1500 yards the last 4 years straight?

[MadBuffaloDisease]

I'd take Matt Light--the Pats' starting tackle--over Gandy any day of the week.

I'd take Orlando Pace over Light. Your point?

[Orton's Arm]

Wow, you can write words, but can you out them together to make sense?

 

Anyone that says this OL sucks because Willis gets all his yards on his own doesnt know what they are talking about and probably doesnt watch any football, including the Bills.

I don't know that anyone is saying that. What people are saying is that Willis is a great RB who does get a lot of his yards on his own. I saw a stat once where--at least in that particular game--he was getting the lion's share of his yards after first contact. Yes, there have been times this year that this line has provided good run blocking--which it seems to do better than pass protection. But if you were to take away McGahee from the Bills, and plug in some RB who was just another guy, there's no way you'd be seeing McGahee-level yardage.

I brought Henry up because he got nearly 1500 yards, followed by nearly 1400 yards in less games, followed by Willis getting nearly 1200 yards starting like 12 games, now he is on pace for 1600 yards, BUT, the OL sucks. 

I'm not really sure how this contributes to the point you're trying to make. For one thing, 40% of the starters on the line this year weren't on the team last year; and 60% weren't on the team two years ago. Likewise, 60% of the line's starters from 2 years ago are no longer with the team.

 

Also, bear in mind Henry got nearly all of the carries when he was the starter. Other teams gave the backup a bigger share of the load. So just because Henry was the 10th leading yardage RB--or whatever position he was--doesn't necessarily mean that the Bills rushing offense was anywhere near that rank.