BenchBledsoe Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 It apparently doesn't matter that the game has changed and these coaches are old now. Great coaches just add something intangible to a team. This is a fact. It may take a year or so, but the team will buy into what the great coaches "are selling". Look at Gibbs and the Skins. They are going to be a force later this year, and even more so next year. I'd take Marv back in an instant. He wants the job too. I never thought he should have left in the first place. I think he should coach until the day he passes or cannot physically do it. . . We'll just call him the "Bear Bryant" of the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCal Aaron Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Jeff Fisher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenchBledsoe Posted October 24, 2005 Author Share Posted October 24, 2005 Jeff Fisher. 484301[/snapback] What about him? Hire him if he gets fired? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Yeah, Marv's record without Jim Kelly and company was just remarkable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinandjokin Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 I'd take Marv back in an instant. He wants the job too. 484289[/snapback] How the heck do you know that? He was the oldest coach in the NFL 9 years ago when he retired. The man is old. I don't think he can log the hours anymore. Eating dinner at 3:30pm and hitting the sack by 7pm is not as easy as it looks. TD obviously made a mistake hiring GW. That was acknowledged by TD firing him. The question is why, after that debacle, would he go out and hire another coordinator with NO EXPERIENCE as a head coach? It is astounding. Trying to prove just how smart he is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Yeah, Marv's record without Jim Kelly and company was just remarkable... 484449[/snapback] There's still no denying Marv was a Hall of Fame caliber coach...I'd take him in a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 There's still no denying Marv was a Hall of Fame caliber coach...I'd take him in a second. 484453[/snapback] He wasn't only an HOF calibre, he is a HOF coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 He wasn't only an HOF calibre, he is a HOF coach. 484464[/snapback] Thank you...i put that down wrong.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 TD obviously made a mistake hiring GW. That was acknowledged by TD firing him. The question is why, after that debacle, would he go out and hire another coordinator with NO EXPERIENCE as a head coach? It is astounding. Trying to prove just how smart he is... 484451[/snapback] Because it is sooooo easy to find a great NFL head coach... They are just falling right out of the trees! Let's see, if we look at who the top coaches are - how many have been around since the *80's*...? You only need to fill 32 spots, yet there are guys doing those for 25+ years who are still hanging around. How many coaches get fired every single year? Is it because finding teh right one is so easy or because it is a bit more difficult than you suggest? Whom was the great coach that he SHOULD have hired? Oh, you probably don't have an answer to that one. The great ones are already employed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 There's still no denying Marv was a Hall of Fame caliber coach...I'd take him in a second. 484453[/snapback] Marv Levy did it with ONE group of guys in a short window... ONE... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Bring Back Marv Levy. . . I'm Dead Serious, look at the Skins under Gibbs So you must be a big Greg Williams fan considering he is one of the main reasons Gibbs is competitive. I hear Ted Marchibroda is still out there too. Maybe if they could talk Jimbo out of retirement...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 How the heck do you know that? He was the oldest coach in the NFL 9 years ago when he retired. The man is old. I don't think he can log the hours anymore. Eating dinner at 3:30pm and hitting the sack by 7pm is not as easy as it looks. TD obviously made a mistake hiring GW. That was acknowledged by TD firing him. The question is why, after that debacle, would he go out and hire another coordinator with NO EXPERIENCE as a head coach? It is astounding. Trying to prove just how smart he is... 484451[/snapback] With all due respect to Marv, Bill Polian was the person who put the team together. And now we know the rest of the story! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 luring marv back was a bad idea when people brought it up at the end of the gregg williams era, and it is a bad idea now. what this team needs is better talent on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinandjokin Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Because it is sooooo easy to find a great NFL head coach... They are just falling right out of the trees! Let's see, if we look at who the top coaches are - how many have been around since the *80's*...? You only need to fill 32 spots, yet there are guys doing those for 25+ years who are still hanging around. How many coaches get fired every single year? Is it because finding teh right one is so easy or because it is a bit more difficult than you suggest? Whom was the great coach that he SHOULD have hired? Oh, you probably don't have an answer to that one. The great ones are already employed. 484470[/snapback] Whoa big guy, take it easy. I'm not pretending to be a GM, or to even have one-tenth the football knowledge that guys like you and TD have. But when you make a mistake, don't you do everything in your power not to make the same mistake again? After 3 seasons with GW, it was clear he didn't have "It" as a head coach (whatever "it" is.) That's not to say that he won't ever have "it," it's just that he was in a situation he had never been in before, and he lost the team. He was not successful in the little things, such as managing veteran players in training camp, or dealing with the media when the team is struggling and everyone wants answers. Those are things he never had to do before, and he was not successful in those areas. The second time around, maybe he will be. So all I'm saying is, why would TD, after admitting hiring GW was a mistake (I think his firing is admission enough) hire another rookie HC? Doesn't that risk making the same mistake twice? Mularkey's 0-4 start may have proven that there is a learning curve for coaches in the NFL as well as players. Point taken that good coaches are usually already employed. I'm not saying picking a good one is easy; all I'm saying is don't make the same mistake twice when picking a bad one. Who should they have hired? I dunno. Perhaps Jim Fassell would have been worth a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 We could bring back Wade who everybody liked to make fun of (gee he didn't wear a headset), but he is the only coach in Bills history not to have a losing season. He understood the importance of a few things like having a great D-line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 How the heck do you know that? He was the oldest coach in the NFL 9 years ago when he retired. The man is old. I don't think he can log the hours anymore. Eating dinner at 3:30pm and hitting the sack by 7pm is not as easy as it looks. TD obviously made a mistake hiring GW. That was acknowledged by TD firing him. The question is why, after that debacle, would he go out and hire another coordinator with NO EXPERIENCE as a head coach? It is astounding. Trying to prove just how smart he is... 484451[/snapback] Marv said he'd like to take over the Bills again two years ago before TD hired MM. I thought then that maybe the Bills owed it to Marv, but really there is no such thing in the NFL. I agree that he likely couldn't handle the hours, etc., that would be needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenchBledsoe Posted October 24, 2005 Author Share Posted October 24, 2005 Marv said he'd like to take over the Bills again two years ago before TD hired MM. I thought then that maybe the Bills owed it to Marv, but really there is no such thing in the NFL. I agree that he likely couldn't handle the hours, etc., that would be needed. 484617[/snapback] Yeah, looks like all of MMs long hours are paying big dividends. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Yeah, looks like all of MMs long hours are paying big dividends. . . 484620[/snapback] Too true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 luring marv back was a bad idea when people brought it up at the end of the gregg williams era, and it is a bad idea now. what this team needs is better talent on the field. 484499[/snapback] I think they need better coaching that can displine players to play their positions...not get out of positions.... You cannot have star players at every position...that is the way the NFL is today....what you need is effective coaching that will make the difference.... Go check the Steelers, Patriots and Panthers rosters.....How many super-stars do they have...... We have sufficient talent......what we need is a good coaching...sadly we lack this.....and we will continue to do this as long as the General manager has the upperhand over the coaching staff..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 I think they need better coaching that can displine players to play theirpositions...not get out of positions.... You cannot have star players at every position...that is the way the NFL is today....what you need is effective coaching that will make the difference.... Go check the Steelers, Patriots and Panthers rosters.....How many super-stars do they have...... We have sufficient talent......what we need is a good coaching...sadly we lack this.....and we will continue to do this as long as the General manager has the upperhand over the coaching staff..... 484630[/snapback] I agree with much of what you say, but do you think that TD is demanding that the Bills predictably blitz on almost every play? Do you think that TD is lining up the DEs 15 yards apart and opening huge running lanes? I have my issues with TD. Big ones, but he is not to blame for ALL of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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