PromoTheRobot Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 We abandon the run too soon...again. Then we can't protect Losman when he passes. I want to believe in this coaching staff but I do not understand what I just saw. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 We abandon the run too soon...again. Then we can't protect Losman when he passes. I want to believe in this coaching staff but I do not understand what I just saw. PTR 461639[/snapback] You and the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleedinblue Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 We abandon the run too soon...again. Then we can't protect Losman when he passes. I want to believe in this coaching staff but I do not understand what I just saw. PTR 461639[/snapback] You and 100,000 other Bill's fans. This staff is just plain incompetent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbonehawaii Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 I have no clue as to wtf that game plan was. neither do they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ofiba Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 We abandon the run too soon...again. Then we can't protect Losman when he passes. I want to believe in this coaching staff but I do not understand what I just saw. PTR 461639[/snapback] Our plan is to call a pass play everytime Willis gets in a groove, and then call a run everytime the defense expects it. It's been excecuted perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 We abandon the run too soon...again. Then we can't protect Losman when he passes. I want to believe in this coaching staff but I do not understand what I just saw. PTR 461639[/snapback] No kidding.....that was maybe the most frustrating part of the whole thing. You want to trust that the damn coaches are putting us in the best position to win games.....so far they're more like Lucy pulling away the ball on Charlie Brown! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 Our plan is to call a pass play everytime Willis gets in a groove, and then call a run everytime the defense expects it. We've been excecuted perfectly. 461649[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 It's very simple: 1) Play-action pass 2) ????? 3) Profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenews Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 I think you are giving the Bills' too much credit to call it a plan...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleedinblue Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 I think you are giving the Bills' too much credit to call it a plan...... 461669[/snapback] I guess you didn't see the rotating, wire cage play drum and Clements pulling the next play out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 This is seriousily the most frustrating thing. How do you go 10 plays 75 yards, the saints can't stop willis, so afterwards we just stop giving him the ball and pass with no success. This is a game we could've won if we stuck to the run. The whole day was disgusting. From the inept play calling to the travesty on mcgee's kick return at the end of the 1st half, just disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 This is seriousily the most frustrating thing. How do you go 10 plays 75 yards, the saints can't stop willis, so afterwards we just stop giving him the ball and pass with no success. This is a game we could've won if we stuck to the run. The whole day was disgusting. From the inept play calling to the travesty on mcgee's kick return at the end of the 1st half, just disgusting. 461689[/snapback] Which series are you referring to, by chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsObserver Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 gameplan; pass, run, pass - punt worked out great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 Which series are you referring to, by chance? 461703[/snapback] The opening series where Willis accounted for 25 yrds and Losman accounted for 50? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 The opening series where Willis accounted for 25 yrds and Losman accounted for 50? 461737[/snapback] Thanks for the obvious. It's surely easy to say, "The idiots abandonded the run" and then not being able to back it up with the situation where the run was abandoned. Yeah it was a frustrating game, and most of the blame goes to Losman again. But the game plan could not have been a simple, "Give it to Willis." How come no one is remembering that when Willis needed to get 6 inches in 2 tries, he lost 2 yards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 Which series are you referring to, by chance? 461703[/snapback] I wasn't refering to any drive in paticular. I worded it wrong, what I meant was we had a good 1st drive, and that after that mcgahee was complelty underutilized, and the whole inept play calling was just very frustrating to watch on a game I believe that if we gave willis more then 16 carries we could've easily controled the clock and won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 Our plan is to call a pass play everytime Willis gets in a groove, and then call a run everytime the defense expects it. It's been excecuted perfectly. 461649[/snapback] Exactly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 Nope.........next question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 Thanks for the obvious. It's surely easy to say, "The idiots abandonded the run" and then not being able to back it up with the situation where the run was abandoned. Yeah it was a frustrating game, and most of the blame goes to Losman again. But the game plan could not have been a simple, "Give it to Willis." How come no one is remembering that when Willis needed to get 6 inches in 2 tries, he lost 2 yards? 461762[/snapback] You're right on that. But part of coaching a run-based offense is knowing what kind of play to call. If it's an inches situation, you don't call a play that takes 3 seconds to develop. The pile-on is already there and every available hole or spot to push is closed. That's why he didn't gain those yards. This is my new refrain: it's the playcalling. For the record, here are all the relevant drives after the first (not including last couple, obvious passing "drives"). Throws this conversation into relief a little bit. Most of our drive-killers took place on passing plays. Our biggest gains were runs. It's not a stretch to say we could have used the run more effectively. The play-by-play makes this pretty clear. Buffalo - 8:00 1st-10, BUF8 8:00 J. Losman incomplete pass to the right 2nd-10, BUF8 8:00 W. McGahee rushed to the left for 2 yard gain 3rd-8, BUF10 7:54 BUF committed 5 yard penalty 3rd-13, BUF5 7:06 J. Losman incomplete pass to the right 4th-13, BUF5 6:45 B. Moorman punt. D. Stallworth returned punt for 11 yards Buffalo - 4:15 1st-10, BUF11 4:15 W. McGahee rushed to the right for 3 yard gain 2nd-7, BUF14 4:15 J. Losman sacked by D. Howard 3rd-17, BUF4 3:31 S. Williams rushed up the middle for 7 yard gain 4th-10, BUF11 2:56 B. Moorman punt. D. Stallworth returned punt for 1 yard Buffalo - 9:05 1st-10, BUF18 9:05 J. Craft intercepted J. Losman for 39 yards. BUF committed 5 yard penalty Buffalo - 5:38 1st-10, BUF30 5:38 J. Losman incomplete pass to the right 2nd-10, BUF30 5:29 BUF committed 5 yard penalty 2nd-15, BUF25 5:24 J. Losman rushed up the middle for 8 yard gain 3rd-7, BUF33 5:24 NO committed 5 yard penalty 1st-10, BUF38 4:42 BUF committed 12 yard penalty 1st-22, BUF26 4:36 J. Losman passed to E. Moulds to the right for 3 yard gain 2nd-19, BUF29 4:08 J. Losman passed to E. Moulds to the right for 11 yard gain 3rd-8, BUF40 3:19 J. Losman passed to J. Smith to the right for 19 yard gain 1st-10, NO41 2:07 J. Losman incomplete pass to the right 2nd-10, NO41 2:07 S. Williams rushed up the middle for 12 yard gain 1st-10, NO29 1:58 W. McGahee rushed to the right for 1 yard gain 2nd-9, NO28 1:45 J. Losman incomplete pass to the right 3rd-9, NO28 1:45 J. Losman passed to S. Williams to the right for 1 yard gain 4th-8, NO27 1:27 R. Lindell missed a 45-yard field goal Buffalo - 7:57 1st-10, BUF22 7:57 W. McGahee rushed to the left for 14 yard gain 1st-10, BUF37 7:57 J. Losman sacked by D. Howard. J. Losman fumbled. J. Losman recovered fumble 2nd-19, BUF28 7:20 J. Losman rushed to the left for 7 yard gain 3rd-12, BUF35 6:39 J. Losman sacked by W. Smith 4th-23, BUF24 5:53 B. Moorman punt. A. Hakim returned punt for 8 yards Buffalo - 3:57 1st-10, BUF10 3:57 W. McGahee rushed to the left for 3 yard gain 2nd-7, BUF13 3:57 BUF committed 5 yard penalty 2nd-12, BUF8 3:19 W. McGahee rushed to the right for 7 yard gain 3rd-5, BUF15 3:08 J. Losman passed to J. Reed to the right for 14 yard gain 1st-10, BUF29 2:27 W. McGahee rushed to the left for 5 yard gain 2nd-5, BUF34 2:03 W. McGahee rushed to the right for no gain 3rd-5, BUF34 1:23 J. Losman incomplete pass to the right 4th-5, BUF34 0:41 B. Moorman punt. A. Hakim returned punt for 5 yards Buffalo - 13:31 1st-10, BUF26 13:31 K. Holcomb incomplete pass to the right 2nd-10, BUF26 13:31 W. McGahee rushed up the middle for 27 yard gain. BUF committed 10 yard penalty 1st-10, BUF43 13:28 K. Holcomb rushed up the middle for no gain. K. Holcomb fumbled. K. Holcomb recovered fumble 2nd-12, BUF41 13:02 K. Holcomb passed to J. Smith to the right for 11 yard gain 3rd-1, NO48 12:27 W. McGahee rushed up the middle for no gain 4th-1, NO48 11:45 W. McGahee rushed up the middle for 2 yard loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerstm Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 We abandon the run too soon...again. Then we can't protect Losman when he passes. I want to believe in this coaching staff but I do not understand what I just saw. PTR 461639[/snapback] I think the staff is willing JP to win the game.. Instead of letting the run set up the play action pass. JP will come along.. But it has to be on the heals of the running game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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