Billswin Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 (edited) I think Losman is the future for this team but.....I think this is the year (although with Spikes out it may be a mute point) that we have a chance to make the playoffs. Next year we will be without Moulds, Clements and who knows who else. I say give Holcumb a shot. Give him the reps in practice and lets see what he can do. If we wait till after the Saints game it may be too late from both a record and morale standpoint. Throw Losman back in if Holcumb lays and egg. Desperate times call for desparte measures. Edited September 26, 2005 by Billswin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I think Losman is the future for this team but.....I think this is the year (although with Spikes out it may be a mute point) that we have a chance to make the playoffs. Next year we will be without Moulds, Clements and who knows who else. I say give Holcumb a shot. Give him the reps in practice and lets see what he can do. If we wait till after the Saints game it may be too late from both a record and morale standpoint. Throw Losman back in if Holcumb lays and egg. Desperate times call for desparte measures. 455134[/snapback] Not time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I think Losman is the future for this team but.....I think this is the year (although with Spikes out it may be a mute point) that we have a chance to make the playoffs. Next year we will be without Moulds, Clements and who knows who else. I say give Holcumb a shot. Give him the reps in practice and lets see what he can do. If we wait till after the Saints game it may be too late from both a record and morale standpoint. Throw Losman back in if Holcumb lays and egg. Desperate times call for desparte measures. 455134[/snapback] It's not time to start the backup QB until people learn how to spell his name. Last night it was HolcombE, today it is HolcUmb. H-O-L-C-O-M-B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick in* england Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 It's not time to start the backup QB until people learn how to spell his name. Last night it was HolcombE, today it is HolcUmb. H-O-L-C-O-M-B 455146[/snapback] However you spell H-O-L-C-O-M-B, you still spell his position the same B-A-C-K-U-P Q-B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinandjokin Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Not time. 455135[/snapback] Shane Matthews did look excellent in garbage time vs. 49ers last year.... I say leave JP in and let him suck it up. That's the only way the move to draft him and play him will pay off for next year and hopefully beyond. Or, he could bust...but we have to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan Trapped in Pats Land Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 However you spell H-O-L-C-O-M-B, you still spell his position the same B-A-C-K-U-P Q-B 455150[/snapback] Yeah, he sucked ass in the preseason. I would rather take my lumps with Losman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Maybe if we had a playoff caliber team you could make the win now argument. But Holcomb is not going to come in and lead this team to the promise land. We might get some improved play but it would be at the expense of JP's future. We all want to win now, but we need to be patient, 3 games into a career is hardly enough to time judge a QB's future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Maybe if we had a playoff caliber team you could make the win now argument. But Holcomb is not going to come in and lead this team to the promise land. We might get some improved play but it would be at the expense of JP's future. We all want to win now, but we need to be patient, 3 games into a career is hardly enough to time judge a QB's future. 455160[/snapback] I agree. Putting in Holcomb is no better an option than bringing back DB for another year of mediocrity. Leave JP in for the forseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I think Losman is the future for this team but.....I think this is the year (although with Spikes out it may be a mute point) that we have a chance to make the playoffs. Next year we will be without Moulds, Clements and who knows who else. I say give Holcumb a shot. Give him the reps in practice and lets see what he can do. If we wait till after the Saints game it may be too late from both a record and morale standpoint. Throw Losman back in if Holcumb lays and egg. Desperate times call for desparte measures. 455134[/snapback] Tempting, but I'm not sure that the team could have done more than a game or maybe two better than 8 -8 even if he does/did reasonably well for a first-time starter. Most realistic folks picked them to be in the 6-10 - 10 -6 range...the schedule seems tougher this year, and the last 8 games include 6 of '04's play-off clubs and the last two contests are on the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
col_forbin Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 JP needs as much time as we can give him. I say give him the whole year before you make any changes. With Spikes out for the year, this is going to be one painful process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJsackedagain Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I don't think the Bills are good enough in other areas that just putting in Holcomb will make a difference. The offensive line has once again been subpar ---- now they can't pass block ---- and the defense is vunerable to the run now. Who would have guessed three weeks into the season that Lindell would be the MVP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Nope. Stay the course. Losman will be better off in the long run if he learns by taking his lumps. Face it, we thought maybe with the defense we had we wouldn't have to go through ALL the growing pains of a young QB. I'd rather take the lumps now than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan Trapped in Pats Land Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Hey, at least McGahee is doing his bit. Josh Reed too. The O-line should be ashamed of themselves. Unitas couldn't get off a pass in 1.3 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasontixfromcleve Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Unless Holcomb can stop the run, I think he will stay on the bench. I think Losman is the future for this team but.....I think this is the year (although with Spikes out it may be a mute point) that we have a chance to make the playoffs. Next year we will be without Moulds, Clements and who knows who else. I say give Holcumb a shot. Give him the reps in practice and lets see what he can do. If we wait till after the Saints game it may be too late from both a record and morale standpoint. Throw Losman back in if Holcumb lays and egg. Desperate times call for desparte measures. 455134[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sound_n_Fury Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I think Losman is the future for this team but.....I think this is the year (although with Spikes out it may be a mute point) that we have a chance to make the playoffs. Next year we will be without Moulds, Clements and who knows who else. I say give Holcumb a shot. Give him the reps in practice and lets see what he can do. If we wait till after the Saints game it may be too late from both a record and morale standpoint. Throw Losman back in if Holcumb lays and egg. Desperate times call for desparte measures. 455134[/snapback] Can someone explain to me how someone who joined TSW in 2003 can have 4 (count 'em - 4) posts over that period yet show up here after a loss with THE ANSWERS??? Every $#@_*!% thread I've read the past 18 hours seems to be by the same type of poster. SDS, any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
***PetrinoInAlbany*** Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Yeah, and let's bench Willis for Shaud Williams while we're at it. (SARCASM BUTTON "ON".) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I think Losman is the future for this team but.....I think this is the year (although with Spikes out it may be a mute point) that we have a chance to make the playoffs. Next year we will be without Moulds, Clements and who knows who else. I say give Holcumb a shot. Give him the reps in practice and lets see what he can do. If we wait till after the Saints game it may be too late from both a record and morale standpoint. Throw Losman back in if Holcumb lays and egg. Desperate times call for desparte measures. 455134[/snapback] you have got to be kidding .......so the giants should have traded manning after last season ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Can someone explain to me how someone who joined TSW in 2003 can have 4 (count 'em - 4) posts over that period yet show up here after a loss with THE ANSWERS??? Every $#@_*!% thread I've read the past 18 hours seems to be by the same type of poster. SDS, any ideas? 455345[/snapback] I do. We have people that observe. Perhaps they now are a bit frustrated about the team's performance in a business that depends on folk's emotions. Myself, I'm happy to have people chime in. None of us have any answers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Hey, at least McGahee is doing his bit. Josh Reed too. The O-line should be ashamed of themselves. Unitas couldn't get off a pass in 1.3 seconds. 455295[/snapback] and the Defense too.....thye had no business letting these guys run on you like that in your own backyard.....And as far as Time of Possession the Bills O in fact had more time than the faclons in the 1st half.... If we punch in TDs on those two 1st drives then we are right in this ball game... Thanks to putrid play calling, we settled for field goals which came back to bite us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sound_n_Fury Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I do. We have people that observe. Perhaps they now are a bit frustrated about the team's performance in a business that depends on folk's emotions. Myself, I'm happy to have people chime in. None of us have any answers... 455388[/snapback] Cincy, since you've seen Carson Palmer's development up close, how would you relate his experiences over the first 8 games last year with the way he finished up and has continued in 2005 vis-a-vis JP? Are there any lessons, similarities, differences (hope!) we can take from that, or are we just whistling in the wind here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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