SilverNRed Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 Link Hooray for Socialism!!! Down with cops!! I understand the value of letting people be a little stupid during their college years but maybe San Francisco should pull it back a little as the center for all things retarded. Beating up a cop in SF probably won't affect the G8 meetings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 I read what the blogger says about labeling them 'anticapitalists' instead of 'anarchists' but I think 'anarchists' is right on for these people. What's got me wondering is why you put 'radical leftists' in the headline. By definition, anarchists belong neither to the left nor right; their aim is to have no government control. What you're saying is like saying bin Laden is a 'radical' Libertarian. I just went to my brother's police graduation last month, and I tell you, that picture is really disturbing. I hope he's all right. Is it all right to wish that a huge bout of both-ends flu hits those anarchist circles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNRed Posted July 10, 2005 Author Share Posted July 10, 2005 I read what the blogger says about labeling them 'anticapitalists' instead of 'anarchists' but I think 'anarchists' is right on for these people. What's got me wondering is why you put 'radical leftists' in the headline. By definition, anarchists belong neither to the left nor right; their aim is to have no government control. What you're saying is like saying bin Laden is a 'radical' Libertarian. 378370[/snapback] Mainly they are radical leftists because a big chunk of the kids who usually do the rioting are socialist (or claim to be, or whatever....) and that counts as far left. I just went to my brother's police graduation last month, and I tell you, that picture is really disturbing. I hope he's all right. Is it all right to wish that a huge bout of both-ends flu hits those anarchist circles?Yes, yes it is alright. And good luck to your brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 Link Hooray for Socialism!!! Down with cops!! I understand the value of letting people be a little stupid during their college years but maybe San Francisco should pull it back a little as the center for all things retarded. Beating up a cop in SF probably won't affect the G8 meetings. 378367[/snapback] I miss the days when large numbers of these types of people would end up in the hospital if they dared to attack a cop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 Stupid people and extreme behavior can be found in all walks of life. Thankfully, this kind of protest does not happen all the time - otherwise you guys would be starting topics like this several times a day. Things can get out of hand in any situation where emotion is involved, and all groups have members that are less desirable and behave badly at times. I'm can clearly see that your intention is to slap some broad label on every person who is passionate enough about their beliefs to get involved and excercise their right to demonstrate, but in reality this is just an example of a few individuals giving a bad name to the rest of the group. I'm sure you're aware of all of this and are just trying to fit this incident into your world-view in order to make yourself feel superior. There is certainly nothing new about that. <insert typically clever and condescending "Hotpockets" reference here> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNRed Posted July 11, 2005 Author Share Posted July 11, 2005 Stupid people and extreme behavior can be found in all walks of life. Thankfully, this kind of protest does not happen all the time - otherwise you guys would be starting topics like this several times a day. Things can get out of hand in any situation where emotion is involved, and all groups have members that are less desirable and behave badly at times. I'm can clearly see that your intention is to slap some broad label on every person who is passionate enough about their beliefs to get involved and excercise their right to demonstrate, but in reality this is just an example of a few individuals giving a bad name to the rest of the group. 378425[/snapback] Actually, it's pretty easy to find pictures of people just like this all over the internet - protesting capitalism, "American Imperilism", etc. These examples of lunacy happen pretty frequently in cities like SF. This one was particularily interesting because they happened to hit a cop in the head and land him in the hospital in serious condition as part of riots in San Francisco RE: the G8 meetings in Scotland. I'm sure you're aware of all of this and are just trying to fit this incident into your world-view in order to make yourself feel superior. There is certainly nothing new about that.With regards to the dirtbags who nailed that cop, I am superior. I imagine everyone on this board is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 They are rich kids (The equivalent of Clarence) who for some reasaon hate their parents. If the really stood up for what they believe, they wouldn't hide their faces- that way mom and dad can't spot them on the local news. This is local for me. I saw it on the news. They threw something at the cop- he needed seven stitches and is still under observation in the hospital for brain injuries. These spoiled scum did such intellegent stuff as knocking over garbage cans and paper boxes. most of the windows they shattered were of mom and pop stores. I think there are almost 300 million people who are superior to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of BiB Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 American Imperialism. In about half the countries on earth, they would have been shot down in the streets. Hey, CTM. Here's another use for "non-lethal" energy directed weapons. Hard to attack shoe stores when you're blinded and your skin feels like fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 American Imperialism. In about half the countries on earth, they would have been shot down in the streets. Hey, CTM. Here's another use for "non-lethal" energy directed weapons. Hard to attack shoe stores when you're blinded and your skin feels like fire. 378479[/snapback] But that's not a military application. I don't see anyone advocating military strikes on anarchists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of BiB Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 But that's not a military application. I don't see anyone advocating military strikes on anarchists. 378557[/snapback] You're boxed and you know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTS Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 This looks like a job for The Protest Warriors. I think the US should declare War on San Francisco. Just go in there and wipe it clean. It's a nice area, too bad that 90% of the people there are wack-jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 This looks like a job for The Protest Warriors. I think the US should declare War on San Francisco. Just go in there and wipe it clean. It's a nice area, too bad that 90% of the people there are wack-jobs. 378565[/snapback] Sort of like 90% of the people in this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Actually, it's pretty easy to find pictures of people just like this all over the internet - protesting capitalism, "American Imperilism", etc. These examples of lunacy happen pretty frequently in cities like SF. This one was particularily interesting because they happened to hit a cop in the head and land him in the hospital in serious condition as part of riots in San Francisco RE: the G8 meetings in Scotland. With regards to the dirtbags who nailed that cop, I am superior. I imagine everyone on this board is. 378428[/snapback] It is not for you to decide whether they should be able to protest nor discuss just about whatever the hell they wish. Nor is it for them to decide how you should live your life. When it gets violent, nobody wins. However, with freedom as we enjoy in this country, there is always the potential for this type of thing to get out of hand, as it obviously did in this case. The protestors involved in injuring the cop should be arrested and tried by a jury of their peers, just like anyone else who commits a crime. I just don't think it's very smart to be advocating more restrictions of rights for our citizens based on a very unfortunate incident. By all accounts, this was an otherwise peaceful expression of their right to assemble and speak out against something that is perceive to be unjust. Say what you will about these people, but at least they have the conviction to stand up for what they believe in - and before you say it, I'm NOT talking about the people who hurt the cop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of BiB Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Sort of like 90% of the people in this forum. 379336[/snapback] Then tell us all how you will save the day!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTS Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Sort of like 90% of the people in this forum. 379336[/snapback] You're being to generous. I'd say 95% of the people in this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Then tell us all how you will save the day!! 379342[/snapback] What am I supposed to be saving now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of BiB Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 What am I supposed to be saving now? 379347[/snapback] You B word to B word, you tell me. Not asking you to fix anything, you can't. But what's your plan for anything? Someone kick your puppy? Tell them that's bad. Shouldn't do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 You're boxed and you know it. 378560[/snapback] I'm right and you know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of BiB Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 I'm right and you know it. 379361[/snapback] No, you're not. Been a long day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 I just don't think it's very smart to be advocating more restrictions of rights for our citizens based on a very unfortunate incident. By all accounts, this was an otherwise peaceful expression of their right to assemble and speak out against something that is perceive to be unjust. Say what you will about these people, but at least they have the conviction to stand up for what they believe in - and before you say it, I'm NOT talking about the people who hurt the cop. 379341[/snapback] From what they showed on the local news here (the Bay Area) almost all of these "anarchists" (spoiled brats) where breaking windows, knocking over paper boxes, etc. As for standing up what they believe in, how come almost all of them hide their faces with bandanas or ski masks? If you believe in it so much, show your face and be proud. No. they cover their faces so when the cause damage and run away (another brave act) the cops can't identify them. The same kind of idiots tried to blockade the Port of Oakland so that we couldn't ship "war material" to Iraq- never mind that what was sent was food and stuff to help them rebuild. The cops shot tear gas and beanbags at the idiots. They said it was an unprovoked attack, but when the news footage was replayed you could see and hear bottles being thrown. When the vermin ran, molitov cocktails were found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 You B word to B word, you tell me. Not asking you to fix anything, you can't. But what's your plan for anything? Someone kick your puppy? Tell them that's bad. Shouldn't do that. 379355[/snapback] If someone kicks a defenseless puppy, I'll kick them back, only harder. I'm not sure if you're just refering to my comments in general, or something that actually relates to the current topic, but I'm not the one who believes anything needs to be fixed in this case. Let the system take care of prosecuting these morons, and let the peaceful protesters continue to protest peacefully. I believe the Compassionate Conservative approach that was suggested was to: "Just go in there and wipe (San Francisco) clean. It's a nice area, too bad that 90% of the people there are wack-jobs." Nice solution there. What's yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Sort of like 90% of the people in this forum. 379336[/snapback] If everyone could be as centered and grounded as ol' Gene here, we'd have us a veritable Utopia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 If someone kicks a defenseless puppy, I'll kick them back, only harder. I'm not sure if you're just refering to my comments in general, or something that actually relates to the current topic, but I'm not the one who believes anything needs to be fixed in this case. Let the system take care of prosecuting these morons, and let the peaceful protesters continue to protest peacefully. I believe the Compassionate Conservative approach that was suggested was to: "Just go in there and wipe (San Francisco) clean. It's a nice area, too bad that 90% of the people there are wack-jobs." Nice solution there. What's yours? 379386[/snapback] Yep, reacting to rhetoric with even more generally goes a long way toward fixing stuff. Yessiree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Yep, reacting to rhetoric with even more generally goes a long way toward fixing stuff. Yessiree! 379407[/snapback] There's nothing to fix here IMO, so rhetoric will do nicely in this case. Freedom comes at a cost, and occasional radical incidents like this are one of the costs of our freedom to assemble and peacefully protest. In cases like this, the system is fine the way it is, though it is unfortunate that the officer got hurt. Unfortunately, there are many situations in which cops could potentially be injured or killed, even outside of such protests. I'm sure these officers are well trained to handle these types of situations and are aware of the risks going in. Perhaps investing in R&D for police crowd control gear would be appropriate, but other than that, let the system take care of these people. I'll go on record as saying that I am offically against invading San Francisco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 I'll go on record as saying that I am offically against invading San Francisco. 379416[/snapback] I waiver on that - but mostly because if take it, we can make millions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live&DieBillsFootball Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 A big demonstration and one cop gets beat up, so we should stop letting people protest? I feel bad for the cop and the attackers should be arrested and sent to jail. But dissent is a vital part of democracy, even if you don't agree with what they have to say. Personally, I don't think that there is enough protesting and dissent going on. Back when I was in college, students were exposed to various points of view. Who doesn't remember cutting classes, getting high, hoping chicks would burn their bras and being a liberal concerned with bettering our world? We then graduated, got jobs, and became Republicans so that we could pay less in taxes. Nowadays, kids are forming Republican groups on campus. If you start out on the right, where do you end up after graduation? I think that it's vitally important to instill a little liberal guilt during the impressionable years. It might make people more tolerant of others as they get older. Just my 2 cents. I'll shut up now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Nowadays, kids are forming Republican groups on campus. If you start out on the right, where do you end up after graduation? 379907[/snapback] Not depending on Social Security for you retirement, most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 A big demonstration and one cop gets beat up, so we should stop letting people protest? I feel bad for the cop and the attackers should be arrested and sent to jail. But dissent is a vital part of democracy, even if you don't agree with what they have to say. Personally, I don't think that there is enough protesting and dissent going on. Back when I was in college, students were exposed to various points of view. Who doesn't remember cutting classes, getting high, hoping chicks would burn their bras and being a liberal concerned with bettering our world? We then graduated, got jobs, and became Republicans so that we could pay less in taxes. Nowadays, kids are forming Republican groups on campus. If you start out on the right, where do you end up after graduation? I think that it's vitally important to instill a little liberal guilt during the impressionable years. It might make people more tolerant of others as they get older. Just my 2 cents. I'll shut up now. 379907[/snapback] It wasn't a big demonstration, only about 40-50 people. There were about 3 cops there. The one that got attacked pulls up and gets out of his car. A scumbucket comes up behind him and hits him with a hammer, The cop is still in the hospital. He had seven stiches, a blood clot and brain swelling. These idiots should be charged with attempted murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 It wasn't a big demonstration, only about 40-50 people. There were about 3 cops there. The one that got attacked pulls up and gets out of his car. A scumbucket comes up behind him and hits him with a hammer, The cop is still in the hospital. He had seven stiches, a blood clot and brain swelling. These idiots should be charged with attempted murder. 379935[/snapback] Of course, since its SF they'll be allowed to plead it down to jaywalking. They're simply misunderstood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Of course, since its SF they'll be allowed to plead it down to jaywalking. They're simply misunderstood. 379943[/snapback] Where's Ted Nugent when you need him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Freedom comes at a cost379416[/snapback] What cost? Like war or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reuben Gant Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 What cost? Like war or something? 381174[/snapback] It is messy and comes with permission to loot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 There's nothing to fix here IMO, so rhetoric will do nicely in this case. Freedom comes at a cost, and occasional radical incidents like this are one of the costs of our freedom to assemble and peacefully protest. In cases like this, the system is fine the way it is, though it is unfortunate that the officer got hurt. Unfortunately, there are many situations in which cops could potentially be injured or killed, even outside of such protests. I'm sure these officers are well trained to handle these types of situations and are aware of the risks going in. Perhaps investing in R&D for police crowd control gear would be appropriate, but other than that, let the system take care of these people. I'll go on record as saying that I am offically against invading San Francisco. 379416[/snapback] Sh-t happens, right? Like if sh-t happened all over the skulls of the protestors in retaliation, that would be all right as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philburger1 Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 I read what the blogger says about labeling them 'anticapitalists' instead of 'anarchists' but I think 'anarchists' is right on for these people. What's got me wondering is why you put 'radical leftists' in the headline. 378370[/snapback] Maybe this is why: http://www.zombietime.com/sf_rally_novembe...42-4261_IMG.JPG By the way, this has to be the funniest/saddest photo I have seen in a while: http://www.zombietime.com/sf_rally_novembe...42-4277_IMG.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 What cost? Like war or something? 381174[/snapback] Apparently, when viewed in the glorious panorama of Frenklevision, the cost of freedom is apparently beating the sh-- out of law enforcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Maybe this is why:http://www.zombietime.com/sf_rally_novembe...42-4261_IMG.JPG By the way, this has to be the funniest/saddest photo I have seen in a while: http://www.zombietime.com/sf_rally_novembe...42-4277_IMG.JPG 381235[/snapback] Genius. You link a photo from a rally on November 3rd (before the election) to prove a protest on July 10th is radical left? And we lost to you disingenuous morons? We suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 And we lost to you disingenuous morons?381247[/snapback] Two words: John Kerry We suck. Two words: JOHN FRIGGIN' KERRY. An inanimate carbon rod could have beaten John Kerry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 Two words: John KerryTwo words: JOHN FRIGGIN' KERRY. An inanimate carbon rod could have beaten John Kerry. 381262[/snapback] And any reasonable candidate could have beaten George Bush, including, perhaps, your inanimate carbon rod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNRed Posted July 14, 2005 Author Share Posted July 14, 2005 And any reasonable candidate could have beaten George Bush, including, perhaps, your inanimate carbon rod. 381267[/snapback] And yet the entire Democratic party could not produce one. Curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted July 14, 2005 Share Posted July 14, 2005 And yet the entire Democratic party could not produce one. Curious. 381274[/snapback] I know. It's embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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