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Im hearing Brad Pitt in moneyball saying were trying to recreate him in the aggregate. It aint working. Good news Isaiah Hodgins has more receiving yards this season than speedster Curtis Samuel and Hodgins has played 2 games.

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Here's why they do what they do:

 

https://nfllines.com/nfl-2024-team-positional-spending-win-correlation/

 

It's a long article, but if you run the data on the correlation between the percentage of the cap spent on position groups and winning percentage, the order goes like this. 

  • Quarterback & Offensive Line (0.288) TIE
  • Cornerback (0.171)
  • Interior Defensive Line (0.077)
  • Wide Receiver (0.064)
  • Edge (0.012)
  • Running Back (-0.048)
  • Tight End (-0.093)
  • Linebacker (-0.123)
  • Safety (-0.166)

I don't agree with this because the eye test tells me that elite WRs and EDGE players make game winning plays. But the data says to invest in QB and OL above all else, but CB and DT are also key to winning. That's what Beane has done and I think his smugness comes from the fact that he has the data on his side.

 

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43 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

I'm sitting here watching all these games today , guys like Pickens, AJ Brown, Xavier worthy, Devonta Smith, Tee Higgins 

 

All making insane game changing plays. It really is eye opening in a disturbing way. Why on God's green Earth does Beane & McDermott not want this???? 

 

If Allen takes these guys to the super bowl, yes I'm saying it right now he's the greatest QB that's ever lived.

 

I couldn't even enjoy football today seeing all these massive plays wide receivers are making. It makes me feel sick 🤢 

Even just watching Dallas as a roster look way better than ours makes me realize how bad beane has been the past number of years. 

 

It's eye opening and it pisses me off 

"Quit your b****ing. We scored the 2nd most points in the league last year"

-Beane

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7 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

I don't think anyone would mind a josh palmer if we drafted worthy and had Pickens and TJ Sanders actually looked like an impact player.

 

It's just a few moves but it makes all of the difference 

Or maybe instead of always trading UP for defensive players maybe for once you just trade UP for an offensive weapon not named Josh Allen. Luther Burden fell in the draft and went a couple picks before TJ Sanders. You get an extra 3rd for trading back for Coleman and take ANOTHER worthless D lineman in Carter instead of taking Troy Franklin. Heck you could’ve bypassed taking them both and traded up for BTJ. Beane is McDermotts puppet. Just watch the way McD pulled him to talk after the Bucs win or anytime McD is superglued to Beanes pocket in the draft room. They both need to go. 
 

oh and I’m sure this fun thread will be merged into some other obscure thread soon enough lol

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2 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

Here's why they do what they do:

 

https://nfllines.com/nfl-2024-team-positional-spending-win-correlation/

 

It's a long article, but if you run the data on the correlation between the percentage of the cap spent on position groups and winning percentage, the order goes like this. 

  • Quarterback & Offensive Line (0.288) TIE
  • Cornerback (0.171)
  • Interior Defensive Line (0.077)
  • Wide Receiver (0.064)
  • Edge (0.012)
  • Running Back (-0.048)
  • Tight End (-0.093)
  • Linebacker (-0.123)
  • Safety (-0.166)

I don't agree with this because the eye test tells me that elite WRs and EDGE players make game winning plays. But the data says to invest in QB and OL above all else, but CB and DT are also key to winning. That's what Beane has done and I think his smugness comes from the fact that he has the data on his side.

 

I mean, there’s a very simple way to keep cap spending down on WRs.

 

Draft them early and often and don’t pay them. 

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I mind...especially at his salary 

 

Beane overpaid for a guy who was a Chargers cast off that had one singular touchdown before the Bills decided to give him a fairly large deal

 

Palmer could be fine if he was a third or fourth option making around 3-5 mil/year 

 

Neither of those things are true, and Beane brought him here to play opposite of Coleman as a starter

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1 minute ago, FireChans said:

I mean, there’s a very simple way to keep cap spending down on WRs.

 

Draft them early and often and don’t pay them. 

You mean like all the smart organizations do (GB, Philly, Baltimore)? What a novel I deal!

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6 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

Or maybe instead of always trading UP for defensive players maybe for once you just trade UP for an offensive weapon not named Josh Allen. Luther Burden fell in the draft and went a couple picks before TJ Sanders. You get an extra 3rd for trading back for Coleman and take ANOTHER worthless D lineman in Carter instead of taking Troy Franklin. Heck you could’ve bypassed taking them both and traded up for BTJ. Beane is McDermotts puppet. Just watch the way McD pulled him to talk after the Bucs win or anytime McD is superglued to Beanes pocket in the draft room. They both need to go. 
 

oh and I’m sure this fun thread will be merged into some other obscure thread soon enough lol

 

I honestly wouldn't even mind the mediocre wrs we have if he actually drafted great dlineman.

 

That's the most disheartening part. I mean the eagles dline makes ours look like a jv team.  Texans dline etc.

 

KC front 7 completely dominated the colts running game 

 

 

 

What else am i supposed to think?

 

 

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