Trump Summons Boebart To White House Over Discharge Petition

[Andy1]

5 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I took the part that you put in quotes, but edited my post my post to add in the full sentences you posted.  I am not sure that matters, but I certainly don't want to project the way I feel you and Tibs have.  

 

I now understand that you think I was equating Biden pardoning certain people with the horrific nature of Epstein's crimes.  I have no idea how you arrived at that, whether you thought I was writing in secret code, or if I just typed the wrong words and you noodled it all out.  That's for you to figure out---I didn't mention Epstein. 

 

I did not assume the people Biden pardoned are involved with Epstein in any way, shape or form.  I would have said that if I did.  I didn't.   I hope that is clear to you now.  Though, now that you (not me) have brought it up, it would not surprise me if any of those people pardoned--his brother, dopey son, Faucci---were involved with Epstein, who seems to cater to wealthy and famous people.   Other notable wealthy and famous people I am not assuming are involved, but would not surprise to hear that they were:

 

You know what, I started typing names and it's easier to just say the following:

 

-Any A+ list actor or celebrity;

-Any upper echelon politician from any party;

-Any member of the UN;

-Any powerful manager of money

-lots more people

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It’s easy to misinterpret people on this forum. You originally mentioned the horse being out of the barn with Biden in response to my comment about Trump with Epstein. That seems to me that you are mixing two different issues together and calling them one. You may see it differently. So be it. That’s what makes this forum interesting is interacting with others who view life differently than us. That’s America in a nutshell.
 

I do agree with you that there were likely a lot of wealthy, powerful men involved. Men who are socially inept and lacking women in their lives, or who liked the power part over a minor who went to Epstein. They were likely from both parties and and all sorts of businesses and finance. The financial backers of both parties are probably in the files. I still remember 6th grade in Catholic school when the nun told us “you can fool some of the people all the time, and all the people some of the time, but never all the people all the time”. And she was talking about a kid chewing gum in class, but it still applies in life. It’s time these dirtbag men with tiny peckers are exposed for their actions. 
 

 

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

4 hours ago, Delete_Delete_Delete said:

Um yes, I think they still wield an ungodly amount of power within their party, and Hillary has suffered enough humiliation to last 100 lifetimes between Bill, and then being embarrassed by Trump.

 

Why would they want anything about Bill and possible relations with underage women to see the light of day?

 

After what she did to Bernie, blatantly using her power to steal an entire presidential nomination from the rightful nominee, why would she not continue to use her and Bill’s sway to prevent this stuff from ever getting out? I think she wants to preserve what’s left of their “legacy” and if Bill is all over those files, then all they have to leave behind is decades of scandal to the very bitter end.

 

I understand this is speculative, but it’s more just connecting obvious dots. 

 

Trump isn’t supposed to be like “most people in politics”, remember, that was his entire platform he ran on back in 2016. 
 

BTW, the whole “TDS” thing is about as cool as the “Let’s Go Brandon” stuff. I mean by all means continue to use it in every other sentence, it’s an excellent counterpoint to apparently everything judging by your posts… I admire your commitment to the bit though, even got it in your screen name there, that’s cute. 

 

Bro it's a message board. You're not convincing anyone of anything.

 

But thanks for the essay!

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

4 hours ago, Niagara Bill said:

We all have some things we regret or found ourselves in situations we wish we were not. I am unsure whether trump was in the league of Epstein, but likely he was there, and should he have blown a whistle, 20 yrs later the answer is different. What other more powerful people were there? This is bigger than trump...it caused Epstein to commit suicide on orders or he was done in! Who knows. Trump maybe to. 

The whole espionage scene is filled with degenerates and has been forever, look at the British spies in MI6, and this is money laundering, spy stuff. Over trumps head. He was not trustworthy enough to be involved deeply. His mouth could never be trusted.

Look we all have been there and made choices, but we were perhaps still in that location and did nothing. 

But IMHO, this runs much deeper than trump. People we don't know. Hell do you think Bill C only got 1 bj in his life. Or Bill Gates, or Musk, or 20 other billionaires. 

I suspect we shall never know...too bad...

There’s a lot to unpack here, but i get the gist of what you’re saying.  I’m reminded of this exchange between Chuck Schumer and liberal host Rachel Maddow.   I found it chilling on many levels, especially in light of the Mueller probe and the insertion of the 51 former intelligence experts into the Biden laptop scandal.  Here’s a NY Senator proudly declaring that the IC has multiple ways to “get” someone, and a the dopey commentator nodding right along with him.  Is this the sort of thing you’re referencing? 
 

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

42 minutes ago, Andy1 said:

It’s easy to misinterpret people on this forum. You originally mentioned the horse being out of the barn with Biden in response to my comment about Trump with Epstein. That seems to me that you are mixing two different issues together and calling them one. You may see it differently. So be it. That’s what makes this forum interesting is interacting with others who view life differently than us. That’s America in a nutshell.
 

I do agree with you that there were likely a lot of wealthy, powerful men involved. Men who are socially inept and lacking women in their lives, or who liked the power part over a minor who went to Epstein. They were likely from both parties and and all sorts of businesses and finance. The financial backers of both parties are probably in the files. I still remember 6th grade in Catholic school when the nun told us “you can fool some of the people all the time, and all the people some of the time, but never all the people all the time”. And she was talking about a kid chewing gum in class, but it still applies in life. It’s time these dirtbag men with tiny peckers are exposed for their actions.

 

I don’t think the miscreants in the Epstein saga was limited to men, it’s too big.  As for the rest, fair enough.  I went to Catholic school as well, tgise nuns ran a tight ship.  

[Joe Ferguson forever]

10 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I don’t think the miscreants in the Epstein saga was limited to men, it’s too big.  As for the rest, fair enough.  I went to Catholic school as well, tgise nuns ran a tight ship.  

Me too. Very thankful that my parents sent me. a great educational and moral foundation. I can’t see any of my parochial teachers seeing moral relativism in the Epstein story. I’m certain they would want every culpable villain found and punished. So do I. 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

5 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Me too. Very thankful that my parents sent me. a great educational and moral foundation. I can’t see any of my parochial teachers seeing moral relativism in the Epstein story. I’m certain they would want every culpable villain found and punished. So do I. 

Me too.  One of the byproducts of my education was to think freely and pay attention.  I’m not certain history looks kindly on 1960s Catholic Institutions and moral dilemmas, as painful as that is for me to acknowledge.    

[Homelander]

 

[Niagara Bill]

9 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

There’s a lot to unpack here, but i get the gist of what you’re saying.  I’m reminded of this exchange between Chuck Schumer and liberal host Rachel Maddow.   I found it chilling on many levels, especially in light of the Mueller probe and the insertion of the 51 former intelligence experts into the Biden laptop scandal.  Here’s a NY Senator proudly declaring that the IC has multiple ways to “get” someone, and a the dopey commentator nodding right along with him.  Is this the sort of thing you’re referencing? 
 

 

No, the real people who run the world, the ones who put trump in front of the movement, the intelligent units are the ones at risk. They looked after Epsteins ability to involve them. 

Trump may have knowledge, maybe didn't blow the whistle because of associations, we have all been there, BUT, those who are being protected, those who are truly guilty will stop this, either by pressuring Trump and his people, through money or the Epstein method. 

Andrew is the least of the crew, a crew who most never heard of. 

Epstein is dead, Maxwell is enjoying her stay, trump is spending a huge amount of energy fighting this information, when likely it cannot hurt him. His fear is not about him I suspect.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

6 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

No, the real people who run the world, the ones who put trump in front of the movement, the intelligent units are the ones at risk. They looked after Epsteins ability to involve them. 

Trump may have knowledge, maybe didn't blow the whistle because of associations, we have all been there, BUT, those who are being protected, those who are truly guilty will stop this, either by pressuring Trump and his people, through money or the Epstein method. 

Andrew is the least of the crew, a crew who most never heard of. 

Epstein is dead, Maxwell is enjoying her stay, trump is spending a huge amount of energy fighting this information, when likely it cannot hurt him. His fear is not about him I suspect.

I’m confused here.  Schumer declares that the intelligence community has six ways from Sunday to get you.  He doesn’t suggest legal means, he doesn’t speak of thorough, legal investigations.  His messaging is quite clear here, and he’s one of the most powerful people in our government, and by extension, the world.   
 

Wouldn’t the IC be “the real people”, working at the behest of those who run the world?  

[All_Pro_Bills]

50 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

No, the real people who run the world, the ones who put trump in front of the movement, the intelligent units are the ones at risk. They looked after Epsteins ability to involve them. 

Trump may have knowledge, maybe didn't blow the whistle because of associations, we have all been there, BUT, those who are being protected, those who are truly guilty will stop this, either by pressuring Trump and his people, through money or the Epstein method. 

Andrew is the least of the crew, a crew who most never heard of. 

Epstein is dead, Maxwell is enjoying her stay, trump is spending a huge amount of energy fighting this information, when likely it cannot hurt him. His fear is not about him I suspect.

I more or less agree here. What I don't get is these rich and powerful men didn't need Epstien to supply them with women. They had the means to do that alone. Why get involved with the guy? They could have kept their obsessions out of the light.

What was Epstiens angle? Did the wealthy "Johns" pay him or compensate him with favors? What exactly? How was all this funded like the private jet and island? I know Epstien was involved in investment banking before his operation.

The media and everyone else is focused on the who while there is close to zero interest in the why and how.

I think answering the why and how are the questions and answers the government is worried about shedding light on. Because it's likely an intelligence operation that once revealed will take us down the rabbit hole of the political underworld.

Edited 2 hours ago by All_Pro_Bills

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

7 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I more or less agree here. What I don't get is these rich and powerful men didn't need Epstien to supply them with women. They had the means to do that alone. Why get involved with the guy? They could have kept their obsessions out of the light.

What was Epstiens angle? Did the wealthy "Johns" pay him or compensate him with favors? What exactly? How was all this funded like the private jet and island? I know Epstien was involved in investment banking before his operation.

The media and everyone else is focused on the who while there is close to zero interest in the why and how.

I think answering the why and how are the questions and answers the government is worried about shedding light on. Because it's likely an intelligence operation that once revealed will take us down the rabbit hole of the political underworld.

Well yes. Don't you think that is why Trump is giving Maxwell preferential treatment? He's terrified she will spill the beans and name names, places and events about Trump and others. 

 

Trump might be in this way more than people are theorizing now. I mean he hangs out with a sex trafficker while he's running teen beauty contests, hiring girls that work at his club that ended up in Epstein's trap and partying with the guy with all those girls, some of whom claimed they were raped by Trump 

[All_Pro_Bills]

7 minutes ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said:

Well yes. Don't you think that is why Trump is giving Maxwell preferential treatment? He's terrified she will spill the beans and name names, places and events about Trump and others. 

 

Trump might be in this way more than people are theorizing now. I mean he hangs out with a sex trafficker while he's running teen beauty contests, hiring girls that work at his club that ended up in Epstein's trap and partying with the guy with all those girls, some of whom claimed they were raped by Trump 

He may be the defacto protector of the secrets of the rich and famous but this is about more than Trump. This is about keeping the secret arrangements and mechanisms of powerful and wealthy under the covers. Revealing all of this would vaporize the illusions that are fed to the public.

Let's not forget how Patel and Bongino came into the job guns blazing vowing to reveal and address all and so far have done less than nothing.

Edited 2 hours ago by All_Pro_Bills

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

1 minute ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

He may be the defacto protector of the secrets of the rich and famous but this is about more than Trump. This is about keeping the secret arrangements and mechanisms of powerful and wealthy under the covers. Revealing all of this would vaporize the illusions that are fed to the public.

Well, Trump is the president so the focus is on him, rightfully so. He is also the one protecting the convicted sex trafficker, there has to be a reason for that. If it goes deeper then the truth should be pursued come what may. Trump is in the eye of the storm, though 

[All_Pro_Bills]

Just now, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said:

Well, Trump is the president so the focus is on him, rightfully so. He is also the one protecting the convicted sex trafficker, there has to be a reason for that. If it goes deeper then the truth should be pursued come what may. Trump is in the eye of the storm, though 

The House vote to order release of all is due next week. Expect it to pass. The Senate, who knows? A Trump veto will result in most of his supporters jumping ship if they haven't already.

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

5 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

The House vote to order release of all is due next week. Expect it to pass. The Senate, who knows? A Trump veto will result in most of his supporters jumping ship if they haven't already.

No, they love him. He can do no wrong in their eyes 

[SCBills]

Starting to think MTG might be unbelievably politically savvy over this. 
 

Trump apparently told her to stand down on running for Georgia Senate or Governor. 
 

She was furious. 
 

He was right to tell her that because old MTG with Trump’s backing, was not winning state-wide office in Georgia.

 

This new MTG.  Fighting back against Trump, pushing for the Epstein release, closed borders, end to H1B’s mixed with economic populism aimed at both the right and left… this one could win.

 

Last conservative in Georgia to have a feud with Trump is the most popular politician in the state, by a longshot… Brian Kemp.  

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

29 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Starting to think MTG might be unbelievably politically savvy over this. 
 

Trump apparently told her to stand down on running for Georgia Senate or Governor. 
 

She was furious. 
 

He was right to tell her that because old MTG with Trump’s backing, was not winning state-wide office in Georgia.

 

This new MTG.  Fighting back against Trump, pushing for the Epstein release, closed borders, end to H1B’s mixed with economic populism aimed at both the right and left… this one could win.

 

Last conservative in Georgia to have a feud with Trump is the most popular politician in the state, by a longshot… Brian Kemp.  

And anti-Israel 

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said:

And anti-Israel 

She is.  Not sure how that plays in Georgia. 
 

Not many Jewish people here and the electorate.. white, black and latino is heavy Christian. 
 

Growing Indian population in the suburbs of ATL that won’t like her H1B visa stance, but they vote Dem anyway. 

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

3 minutes ago, SCBills said:

She is.  Not sure how that plays in Georgia. 
 

Not many Jewish people here and the electorate.. white, black and latino is heavy Christian. 
 

Growing Indian population in the suburbs of ATL that won’t like her H1B visa stance, but they vote Dem anyway. 

Sounds like Trump wants to primary her. That will bring a flood of zion money into the race against her. Not many Jews in Georgia but the money will flow in from Jewish pockets 

[SCBills]

4 minutes ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said:

Sounds like Trump wants to primary her. That will bring a flood of zion money into the race against her. Not many Jews in Georgia but the money will flow in from Jewish pockets 

Trump can try but I don’t know that primarying someone in a local Congressional seat will work.  Those people know her.  Voted for her when she was crazy.  Now she sounds competent and fearless so theyll turn their backs on her over AIPAC money?

 

More likely is this propels her to a statewide run for Governor or Senator against Keisha Lance Bottoms or Jon Ossoff  … which is what she wanted all along and Trump (justifiably back then) blocked it. 

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by SCBills