Cover1 Video Breakdown: Dalton Kincaid Should Be the Centerpiece of Bills Offense

[Special K]

23 hours ago, gobills404 said:

Kincaid lined up next to Brown. This some Mahomes/Kelce type stuff

 

 

3 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

 

Funny enough, it looks like the play in the clip might be the play where he hurts his oblique.

 

Looks like he took a knee to the side at the end of the play, and took a minute to get up afterwards.

[Thurman#1]

On 10/8/2025 at 8:51 PM, finn said:

I'm not sure what to make of Brady. Is he holding back, maybe at McDermott's request, playing conservative ball to take the win? Or is this all he can do with the best quarterback in the league, a terrific line (and line coach) and running back, and the best tight-end trio in the league--against bottom-half teams? Maybe Babich is struggling because of a dearth of talent to work with, but you can't say the same of Brady. My growing sense is that he's just a guy who happened to be around when McDermott needed someone to take over. I credit him for turning things around, and I'm not giving up on him yet, but he's been dealt pocket aces and so far this year he's playing like he has 5-7 off. 

 

 

We're third in points and third in yardage. Nobody is holding back on this offense.

[Thurman#1]

8 hours ago, finn said:

Fair point. I'm not saying McDermott is a bad coach, just that the excellent win percentage people point to as evidence of his prowess is dubious given the quarterback he's been bestowed. It's like saying "Look at all the championships Scottie Pippen won! He's obviously one of the best players of all time." 

 

 

You can say this about all of the great coaches in history. You can't win consistently without a good QB.

 

On the other hand, coaches who've lost with very good QBs aren't all that difficult to find. Look at how Denver did under Wade Phillips with Elway. Compare Russell Wilson's results under anyone but Carroll. Philip Rivers never put up big win percentages consistently and it wasn't because he wasn't a great QB. Matt Ryan was up and down under different regimes.

 

Dan Fricking Marino was on teams that were very inconsistent about win percentages.

 

McDermott's consistency and win percentages aren't all on Josh, though he certainly Allen has a large part in it. It was pointed out above that he made the playoffs with Tyrod at the beginning of a rebuild. That was terrific coaching.

 

Edited 9 hours ago by Thurman#1

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

On 10/8/2025 at 7:51 AM, finn said:

I'm not sure what to make of Brady. Is he holding back, maybe at McDermott's request, playing conservative ball to take the win? Or is this all he can do with the best quarterback in the league, a terrific line (and line coach) and running back, and the best tight-end trio in the league--against bottom-half teams? Maybe Babich is struggling because of a dearth of talent to work with, but you can't say the same of Brady. My growing sense is that he's just a guy who happened to be around when McDermott needed someone to take over. I credit him for turning things around, and I'm not giving up on him yet, but he's been dealt pocket aces and so far this year he's playing like he has 5-7 off. 

Pats dline kinda had their way with our oline which was a lot of the problem in this last one tbh…I think we’re getting a little over reactionary to that. When the oline plays as well as what you described the bills are pretty much unstoppable 

 

Edited 9 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[finn]

7 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

We're third in points and third in yardage. Nobody is holding back on this offense.

Your conclusion doesn't necessarily follow from the data. For all we know, they could break records in points and yardage if they did open up. Allen attempted a pass 20+ yards just three times on Sunday, including the gimmicky flea flicker. That's hardly wide open. 

 

I think they are in fact holding back but for good reason: they don't have the horses. Palmer is no more than what he was for the Chargers, Coleman is a disappointment so far, and Samuels, Shavers, and Moore are no more than complementary pieces. Only Kincaid, Shakier, and Cook are real assets, and none of them can stretch the field. Teams are starting to figure out that they even Josh Allen needs something to work with, and if you stop the running game, you stop the Bills. No run, no play action, and little chance that anything but short passes will work, not with these receivers. 

 

We don't need to wait for the bye to take stock. The team needs a deep threat as wide receiver, along with a dependable cornerback to replace Tre White. That's given that the pass rush and run defense will improve with the reinforcements and no one gets hurt. Without these two additions, we're looking at another letdown in the playoffs. 

 

 

[finn]

7 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Pats dline kinda had their way with our oline which was a lot of the problem in this last one tbh…I think we’re getting a little over reactionary to that. When the oline plays as well as what you described the bills are pretty much unstoppable 

 

Maybe. It could also be the Pats' combination of an excellent d-line and excellent corners, which simultaneously shut down the run and downfield throws. It's not an unbeatable combination, not with their relatively weak linebackers and safeties, but unfortunately Brady wasn't up to the challenge. He seemed puzzled in the first half especially and never did find a real answer, which now seems blindingly obvious: Use Cook (zero targets) and Kincaid (just 54% of snaps). When he was stopped, Brady neglected his two best weapons. He also inexplicably left Hawes on the bench.

 

You can blame Coleman with good reason, but I think it was Brady who s--t the bed. 

[finn]

8 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

You can say this about all of the great coaches in history. You can't win consistently without a good QB.

 

On the other hand, coaches who've lost with very good QBs aren't all that difficult to find. Look at how Denver did under Wade Phillips with Elway. Compare Russell Wilson's results under anyone but Carroll. Philip Rivers never put up big win percentages consistently and it wasn't because he wasn't a great QB. Matt Ryan was up and down under different regimes.

 

Dan Fricking Marino was on teams that were very inconsistent about win percentages.

 

McDermott's consistency and win percentages aren't all on Josh, though he certainly Allen has a large part in it. It was pointed out above that he made the playoffs with Tyrod at the beginning of a rebuild. That was terrific coaching.

 

Good post. I suspect that the many variables in play make it hard to come to simple conclusions. For instance, McDermott might be a terrific coach in the regular season but a choker in the playoffs, a charge that was thrown at Andy Reid and Dan Reeves. He might also be very good in some ways, such as building a winning culture, but not in others, like game-day coaching. I do think McDermott deserves credit for much of the team's success in the Allen era. A lesser coach might have given us a version of Herbert's Chargers or Marino's Dolphins. So we should appreciate him for that. But the 13-seconds game is a real black mark on his record, as is the team's repeated defeats to the Chiefs. It won't be pretty if the Bills lose again this year to Reid and Mahomes. 

[MJS]

It is pretty centered around Kincaid already. Kincaid is 2nd in the league in yards and 3rd in TDs among TE's. Kincaid, Shakir, and Coleman all have about the same number of targets and receptions, so Kincaid is at least one of 3 of the receiving engines that make the offense go.

16 hours ago, finn said:

Fair point. I'm not saying McDermott is a bad coach, just that the excellent win percentage people point to as evidence of his prowess is dubious given the quarterback he's been bestowed. It's like saying "Look at all the championships Scottie Pippen won! He's obviously one of the best players of all time." 

What coaches have a great win percentage without a good QB?

Edited 1 hour ago by MJS