Jaxson Dart to start for Giants

[The Frankish Reich]

3 hours ago, nuklz2594 said:

Billy joe hobert was the worst

On most teams, yes.

But Nathan Peterman's record of inexcellence will stand for a long, long time.

 

[And us oldsters will never forget Gary Marangi]

[Beck Water]

6 hours ago, Ayjent said:

Looking at Daboll's body of work - Buffalo seems to be an anomaly more than anything.  He got OC gigs because of his time with New England's staff.  He was downright awful in other places (outside of NE) before Buffalo, and besides one magical run in his first year with the Giants, he's been just as awful.  Josh is probably going to make a lot of guys look good at their jobs, but don't forget Daboll's beautiful playcalling with designed shotgun QB sweeps on 3rd and 7 or two route short-side roll out pass plays on 3rd and short.  Josh succeeded in spite of Daboll more than we all might have realized.  So Daboll looked good with Brady and Allen, hmmm....

 

In somewhat defense of Daboll, he had some awful teams to work with as OC.  Brady Quinn and Derek Anderson under Eric Mangini with the Browns - ugh.  2011 with Matt Moore on the Dolphins, he managed a decent offense.  2012 Chiefs, he had Matt "Noodle Arm" Cassel who thought his excrement had no odor and the team as a whole has all kinds of stories about putting the dys in dysfunctional under Scott Pioli.  There's a reason Romeo Crennel and Eric Mangini haven't gotten head coaching opportunities since (though I guess Crennel did with Houston in 2020).

I've had people argue with this POV, but I think Daboll got a bit full of himself in Buffalo with Allen.  I think he got to believing he could mold any QB with an arm and some running ability (like Daniel Jones) into Josh Allen.  Allen could handle Daboll's form of coaching; not every player can.  Daboll in Buffalo managed to have a good offense (with some spectacular failures like the Jags loss and the season opener loss to Pittsburgh) even though he seemingly said "Lalala" with his fingers in his ears any time McDermott told him that the Bills needed a competent run game.  Then, when Daboll went to the Giants and had success his first year 2022, it appears his ego just exploded.  There's a saying "nothing fails like success" and I think winning COTY in 2022 led to a feeling of entitlement.

Some references to back up the above:
https://sports.yahoo.com/ms-silver_colt_mccoy_browns_brian_daboll_112411.html
https://giantswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/giants/2024/06/28/ex-new-york-giants-coach-on-brian-daboll-we-were-all-trying-to-get-out/79593871007/

(This is about 2023)

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Sources close to the situation said that Martindale, along with several other coaches on both sides of the ball, had grown tired of Daboll's frequent outbursts. Daboll's staff felt he'd stopped listening and there was constant "finger-pointing," multiple team sources told ESPN.

"It was like, 'Are we on the same team?' It sure doesn't feel like it," one coach said.
.....

"We were all trying to get out of there," a non-defensive coach said.

Special teams coordinator Thomas McGaughey and offensive line coach Bobby Johnson were fired on Black Monday. Running backs coach Jeff Nixon, tight ends coach Andy Bischoff, assistant offensive line coach Chris Smith, and director of strength and performance Craig Fitzgerald also all willing departed.

 

I wish Jaxon Dart the best.  
 

On 9/23/2025 at 11:45 AM, Buffalo03 said:

I was thinking about picking up the Chargers D in fantasy this week since they play the Giants this week. But now with Dart, I'm kinda having Justin Herbert vibes from his rookie year when he made his first start at the last second after Tyrod couldn't play. Of course, the Chiefs who I believe Herbert played didn't prepare for him. The Chargers will have a weeks worth of prep for Dart. So I am torn

 

Do you think Wilson was the sum total of the Giants offensive struggles?

Edited September 24 by Beck Water

[MRW]

19 hours ago, HOUSE said:

I bought a Dodge Dart once, rattled down the road caught on fire and died, 3 years old

 

But was the car ok?

[Mr. WEO]

Daboll wants you to know it was his decision to start Dart

 

lol