Wolfgang Posted July 27 Posted July 27 8 hours ago, T master said: Says the jack ass that apparently supports Hamas and by your reply think that Hamas and it's terrorism funded by Iran and all of their attacks over the years on other innocent people is just okay ... As I watch a report of food drops to those in Gaza while affirming some that have died of starvation but Hamas still refuses to back down or surrender so why don't you tell those that started this conflict to surrender and leave and it will stop instead of twisting everything to fit what your narrative ....
Roundybout Posted July 27 Posted July 27 11 hours ago, T master said: Says the jack ass that apparently supports Hamas and by your reply think that Hamas and it's terrorism funded by Iran and all of their attacks over the years on other innocent people is just okay ... As I watch a report of food drops to those in Gaza while affirming some that have died of starvation but Hamas still refuses to back down or surrender so why don't you tell those that started this conflict to surrender and leave and it will stop instead of twisting everything to fit what your narrative .... Israel is actively killing people trying to get aid. Give me a break. 1
T master Posted July 27 Posted July 27 49 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Israel is actively killing people trying to get aid. Give me a break. Because Hamas will not agree to a cease fire . Pretty simple tell the terrorist to get off their high horse and they will both stop fighting .
Wolfgang Posted July 27 Posted July 27 21 minutes ago, T master said: Because Hamas will not agree to a cease fire . Pretty simple tell the terrorist to get off their high horse and they will both stop fighting . How many dead children are = to one adult member of Hamas? 5 to 1? 10 to 1? 100 to 1?
Roundybout Posted July 27 Posted July 27 1 hour ago, T master said: Because Hamas will not agree to a cease fire . Pretty simple tell the terrorist to get off their high horse and they will both stop fighting . This does not give Israel the right to execute civilians trying not to starve to death. Israel is actively seeking conflict. It’s apparent by their random attacks on Damascus. This “poor us” attitude doesn’t work anymore. 2
TH3 Posted July 27 Posted July 27 On 7/26/2025 at 8:56 AM, sherpa said: Of course they need to adjust in order to reduce a humanitarian disaster, and I absolutely hope they do. It doesn't change the fact that they didn't start this, no are they in any sane way responsible for what Hamas has morphed into as a client of Iran who trains, funds and supplies them for the sole purpose of killing Israelis. Same thing happened in the Six Day War and Yom Kippur. Gross aggression against Israel. In a few days they kick ass, them the aggressors go to the world court of public opinion to get them to stop. They do so, and it's repeated a few years later. That aside, I sincerely hope there is a change that allows the humanitarian aid to get to the innocents and not be stolen by Hamas. . Ya well…Israel has been on a slow and steady campaign to colonize the West Bank….pretty much terrorizing the local Palestinians. Netanyahu loves Hamas…he has been talking about cleansing the Palestinians out his whole freaking career…you should know that. Stupid Hamas handed him exactly what he wanted 2 years ago …giving him the greenlight to act out his lifelong STATED goals. Don’t forget…once the war stops…Netanyahu goes on trial …so do you think he really wants to end his dream job and go to jail? Ax well …he totally conned DT into bombing Iran 1
sherpa Posted July 27 Posted July 27 29 minutes ago, TH3 said: Ya well…Israel has been on a slow and steady campaign to colonize the West Bank….pretty much terrorizing the local Palestinians. Netanyahu loves Hamas…he has been talking about cleansing the Palestinians out his whole freaking career…you should know that. Stupid Hamas handed him exactly what he wanted 2 years ago …giving him the greenlight to act out his lifelong STATED goals. Don’t forget…once the war stops…Netanyahu goes on trial …so do you think he really wants to end his dream job and go to jail? Ax well …he totally conned DT into bombing Iran It's incredibly easy to broaden the issue of Hamas' attack and the Israeli response beyond the basic reality. Hamas is a terrorist group of torturing murderers who have no goal of improving the life of Palestinians, and never has. Netanyahu's political or legal issues are of no concern to me. Israel is very much like the US regarding support or disdain for their Prime Minister. Scores of their political commentators, ex office holders and influential media folks talk about this all the time, but they don't disagree on what needs to be done to Hamas or Hezbollah. Regarding the strikes on Iran, the Israeli dismantling of Iran's air defense system, and the US strike on the three weapons facilities are the best thing that has happened in the Middle East in my adult lifetime, and maybe in 2025 years. A near miraculous outcome when what was possible, and thought likely, is considered.
ComradeKayAdams Posted July 27 Posted July 27 How is this still a question?? Formal charges of genocide were submitted to the International Court of Justice THREE MONTHS after 10/7/23, way before Israel’s ongoing starvation blockade on Gaza. These types of charges are not put together capriciously! The evidence of genocide, under the formal United Nations definition of the term, was overwhelming at that time and is even more so now. No one presently among the International Association of Genocide Scholars disagrees with the formal assertion. The ICC has arrest warrants issued for Netanyahu and Yoav Gollant because of the IDF’s heinous war crimes. The issue of motivation needs to be scrutinized when dealing with accusations of genocide. Claims of self-defense are a bit specious when Likud government leaders openly declare their Greater Israel objectives! Actions speak louder than words, of course, and Israel’s continued encroachments into the West Bank, southwest Syria, and southern Lebanon are effective bullhorns. Ethnic cleansing is Israel’s obvious motivation for genocide. They want more Arab land and natural resources, as has been the case officially since 1948 (and unofficially since the late nineteenth century). Less Gazans alive and worsening living conditions in Gaza facilitates the eventual mass deportation of remaining Gazan refugees into nearby Arab countries. At this point, the only American demographic still defending Israel are Christian MAGA Boomers. My guess is that ~95% of TBD PPP is comprised of this demographic. So my honest questions to you guys: 1. How are genocide, ethnic cleansing, settler colonialism, collective punishment, and apartheid aligned with Christian precepts? What is the contemporary ethical justification for Zionism? 2. If what Israel is doing is on the level, why are nearly all journalists banned in Gaza? Why have more journalists died in this conflict than in any other one since the beginning of the twentieth century? 3. Where is your line in the sand for the systematic destruction of homes, buildings, hospitals, schools, universities, mosques, churches, cemeteries, and cultural heritage sites? Is there a particular number or percentage of destruction at which the “but Hamas!” and “but anti-Semitism!” get-out-of-jail-free cards expire for you? 4. Has Israel been negotiating in good faith with Hamas and with Palestinians, currently and historically? Or have they been guilty of various “poison pill” tactics, even dating back to the pre-Second Intifada era (Oslo Accords, etc.)? 5. How is defending Israel an “America first” policy? How are we benefiting from this relationship, in terms of economics and international diplomacy? 1
Wolfgang Posted July 27 Posted July 27 20 minutes ago, sherpa said: It's incredibly easy to broaden the issue of Hamas' attack and the Israeli response beyond the basic reality. Hamas is a terrorist group of torturing murderers who have no goal of improving the life of Palestinians, and never has. Netanyahu's political or legal issues are of no concern to me. Israel is very much like the US regarding support or disdain for their Prime Minister. Scores of their political commentators, ex office holders and influential media folks talk about this all the time, but they don't disagree on what needs to be done to Hamas or Hezbollah. Regarding the strikes on Iran, the Israeli dismantling of Iran's air defense system, and the US strike on the three weapons facilities are the best thing that has happened in the Middle East in my adult lifetime, and maybe in 2025 years. A near miraculous outcome when what was possible, and thought likely, is considered. How many Palestinian children have died so far? How many is too many?
sherpa Posted July 27 Posted July 27 1 hour ago, Wolfgang said: How many Palestinian children have died so far? How many is too many? Dumb question. One is too many. How many hostages have died so far, and they were in Hamas' "custody."
Wolfgang Posted July 27 Posted July 27 25 minutes ago, sherpa said: Dumb question. One is too many. How many hostages have died so far, and they were in Hamas' "custody." Who created Hamas?
Homelander Posted July 27 Posted July 27 The world is burning, prices keep soaring, and every promise he made was one giant lie. Now, 188 days into Trump 2.0, he’s wasted nearly 40% of his time golfing. While everything falls apart, he’s just swinging clubs. How’s that for leadership? "If I were president, the war in Ukraine would end in 24 hours." "The attack on Israel would never have happened." "There would be peace through strength." "The Ukraine war within 24 hours." “End endless wars” "Stop funding foreign wars over US needs."
sherpa Posted July 27 Posted July 27 30 minutes ago, Wolfgang said: Who created Hamas? Is this a quiz? I know who created the July 2025 Hamas, just as I know who created the Oct 7, 2023 Hamas. The answer is Iran.
Wolfgang Posted July 27 Posted July 27 Just now, sherpa said: Is this a quiz? I know who created the July 2025 Hamas, just as I know who created the Oct 7, 2023 Hamas. The answer is Iran. Nonsense... There is no getting through to you... You are no different than this POS...
sherpa Posted July 27 Posted July 27 1 hour ago, Wolfgang said: Nonsense... There is no getting through to you... You are no different than this POS... Ya. There is no getting through to me by any lunatic who would ever state that I support genocide, which you have done. I have a fair amount of experience and knowledge of the Iranian issue, which is what Hamas is from the cellular level. They are the force behind this tragedy. Full stop.
Roundybout Posted July 27 Posted July 27 14 minutes ago, sherpa said: Ya. There is no getting through to me by any lunatic who would ever state that I support genocide, which you have done. I have a fair amount of experience and knowledge of the Iranian issue, which is what Hamas is from the cellular level. They are the force behind this tragedy. Full stop. How does starving children to death help defeat Hamas?
sherpa Posted July 27 Posted July 27 20 minutes ago, Roundybout said: How does starving children to death help defeat Hamas? Ask Hamas. They have been stealing financial and food aid for years.
Roundybout Posted July 27 Posted July 27 10 minutes ago, sherpa said: Ask Hamas. They have been stealing financial and food aid for years. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna221208 A study completed by the U.S. in June says you’re wrong.
Wolfgang Posted July 27 Posted July 27 47 minutes ago, sherpa said: Ya. There is no getting through to me by any lunatic who would ever state that I support genocide, which you have done. I have a fair amount of experience and knowledge of the Iranian issue, which is what Hamas is from the cellular level. They are the force behind this tragedy. Full stop. Your knowledge is superficial... You support ethnic cleansing... Full stop... Have a nice day...
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