Preseason - Around the League

[Nihilarian]

On 8/28/2025 at 1:57 PM, JerseyBills said:

yea I agree

It's more of a family vibe and McDermott and Beane deserve so much praise for creating that , look at the sh1tshow they walked into, 17 year playoff drought and compare that to now, it's remarkable 

Well said! 

 

So many Bills fans here think that replacing McD and things will magically get better...when in fact things would probably return to what we all knew and saw before he came to Buffalo. 

 

Some Bills fans simply don't realize just how good the Kansas City Chiefs have been the last five years as no other NFL team has had as many wins. They have two former NFL head coaches as their OC, DC. The Chiefs have been in the playoffs every year since 2015. Since 2019 they have been to five super bowls and won three. Chiefs HC Andy Reid has never had a losing season in KC and won their division the last seven seasons. Reid has also been the Chiefs winningest HC with a 143-53-0 record.

 

The Buffalo Bills have had the second most wins over the last five seasons and unfortunately have been unable to win home field advantage over KC. Hopefully things change this season as the Chiefs should have a much tougher time in the AFC West as the Chargers, Raiders and Broncos have all gotten better.  

 

 

[90sBills]

12 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

 

Some Bills fans simply don't realize just how good the Kansas City Chiefs have been the last five years as no other NFL team has had as many wins. They have two former NFL head coaches as their OC, DC. The Chiefs have been in the playoffs every year since 2015. Since 2019 they have been to five super bowls and won three. Chiefs HC Andy Reid has never had a losing season in KC and won their division the last seven seasons. Reid has also been the Chiefs winningest HC with a 143-53-0 record. 

 

They’ve actually won the division nine seasons in a row. It’s crazy dominant. Hopefully the other teams can make some ground this year. 

[Mikie2times]

6 hours ago, 90sBills said:

They’ve actually won the division nine seasons in a row. It’s crazy dominant. Hopefully the other teams can make some ground this year. 

What gets me more than anything is 7 straight AFC championship games. Then the fact that Mahomes has played in one every year he has started is insane. People predicting the demise are just delusional. If they have Reid, Spags, Mahomes, and Jones, no demise is coming. Problem is they have more than just that. They’re still public enemy number 1. 

[BillsFan130]

1 hour ago, Mikie2times said:

What gets me more than anything is 7 straight AFC championship games. Then the fact that Mahomes has played in one every year he has started is insane. People predicting the demise are just delusional. If they have Reid, Spags, Mahomes, and Jones, no demise is coming. Problem is they have more than just that. They’re still public enemy number 1. 

Every year a lot of people on this board write off the chiefs. And every year they reach the championship game, go to the Super Bowl, or win the Super Bowl lol.

 

No matter how bad the chiefs may look in certain stretches during the regular season, it's straight up foolish to write them off.

Edited September 1 by BillsFan130

[Nihilarian]

7 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

What gets me more than anything is 7 straight AFC championship games. Then the fact that Mahomes has played in one every year he has started is insane. People predicting the demise are just delusional. If they have Reid, Spags, Mahomes, and Jones, no demise is coming. Problem is they have more than just that. They’re still public enemy number 1. 

Not necessarily their demise as they will still probably get into the playoffs in 2025 and even win the division again. It's home field advantage that I dream about which would be an awesome thing to see for the Buffalo Bills in the last year in the old stadium. Imagine what the Bills fans would be like in that game. Is it wrong to wish the injury bugs and bad luck to find the Chiefs or a different AFC team besides Buffalo at the end of the season?

 

The Bills have their work cut out for them as the AFC East also looks to have gotten better with the two new HCs for the NY Jets and Patriots. Not to mention that darned home opener against the Ravens who will also be vying for that home field advantage. 

[Mikie2times]

2 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Every year a lot of people on this board write off the chiefs. And every year they reach the championship game, go to the Super Bowl, or win the Super Bowl lol.

 

No matter how bad the chiefs may look in certain stretches during the regular season, it's straight up foolish to write them.

Totally agree. I think people fall into the trap of who looks better or matchups. As an example, most fear Baltimore more because yes, Baltimore can blow us out, while nobody thinks KC could and that’s likely true. But nobody is going to play a better last 5 minutes in the playoffs and it’s really not that close in that regard. 

[Mikie2times]

2 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

Not necessarily their demise as they will still probably get into the playoffs in 2025

This is what I’m talking about. They have been to 7 straight AFC championships and the roster is just as strong. So how does anybody figure they will just get in. The only team that has ever shown they can beat them is the Bengals, and that’s not the same team composition anymore.
 

So when they limp in as some would say, somebody is still going to have to take it and I’m not sure how much home field matters. To me, the bye matters more. Especially to us. If we can get that, yes, it’s a possible path to increasing our odds in that spot. But I’m not even sure HF matters against a team like that. You will still need to take it from them and win the last 5 minutes. 

[tigerthelion]

37 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

This is what I’m talking about. They have been to 7 straight AFC championships and the roster is just as strong. So how does anybody figure they will just get in. The only team that has ever shown they can beat them is the Bengals, and that’s not the same team composition anymore.
 

So when they limp in as some would say, somebody is still going to have to take it and I’m not sure how much home field matters. To me, the bye matters more. Especially to us. If we can get that, yes, it’s a possible path to increasing our odds in that spot. But I’m not even sure HF matters against a team like that. You will still need to take it from them and win the last 5 minutes. 

As we saw in 2024.

[90sBills]

50 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

This is what I’m talking about. They have been to 7 straight AFC championships and the roster is just as strong. So how does anybody figure they will just get in. The only team that has ever shown they can beat them is the Bengals, and that’s not the same team composition anymore.
 

So when they limp in as some would say, somebody is still going to have to take it and I’m not sure how much home field matters. To me, the bye matters more. Especially to us. If we can get that, yes, it’s a possible path to increasing our odds in that spot. But I’m not even sure HF matters against a team like that. You will still need to take it from them and win the last 5 minutes. 

This is spot on. The same conversations were going on going into last season. Baltimore was stacked top to bottom etc. KC was plagued by injuries throughout last year and still managed to get the one seed and made it to another Super Bowl. Some of our fans never learn. KC is the evil empire. No one else. 

[Nihilarian]

My take is the Chiefs time has come as their division has gotten much better, considering both Denver and San Diego made it to the playoffs in 2024. AND now both have decent franchise QBs to lead them, along with really good head coaches. 

 

C'mon now, Buffalo hasn't been getting destroyed in the playoffs by KC and, in fact, lost to them last year by 29-32 with some zebra help in the form of some strange spots. So strange in fact, it caused the NFL to FINALLY change the way they track the ball and have rid themselves of the older than dirt "chain gang".

In the previous year lost because of a missed FG, along with so many injuries to the defense that a guy who was going on vacation with his family was called off the street to help out...and he played in that game.

 

The season before that, a defensive player had a heart attack on the field during the game, and this demoralized the entire team. Wasn't it the year before that was the 13-second fiasco in which the then-DC (no longer with the Bills) called for a prevent defense, which screwed the game for Buffalo? The NFL also changed the rules after that game to allow both teams to have a possession. 

 

Let's face it, the Chiefs haven't dominated the Buffalo Bills the last few years, as it's been more bad luck and injuries that have hurt them in the playoffs. Buffalo has beaten those vaunted Chiefs during the regular season several times now. It's about time for the bad luck and injury BS to hit a different team at the end of the season

 

 

[90sBills]

2 hours ago, Nihilarian said:

 

Let's face it, the Chiefs haven't dominated the Buffalo Bills the last few years, as it's been more bad luck and injuries that have hurt them in the playoffs. Buffalo has beaten those vaunted Chiefs during the regular season several times now. It's about time for the bad luck and injury BS to hit a different team at the end of the season

 

I wonder what the excus…umm…reasons will be if it happens for the 5th time this year. 

[Dunkirk Donski]

5 hours ago, 90sBills said:

I wonder what the excus…umm…reasons will be if it happens for the 5th time this year. 

In his defense his claim was that we were not “dominated”. 

[finn]

4 hours ago, 90sBills said:

I wonder what the excus…umm…reasons will be if it happens for the 5th time this year. 

Flip a coin ten times, with heads your "team." It comes up tails four times in a row, and fans of the tail team are strutting around talking trash. You can point out how easily it could have gone the other way, but the tail fans will just call you a whiner making excuses. They'll boast that tails are dominant, they own the heads, their team (and, by extension, they themselves) are winners, heads and their fans losers. 

 

Put ego aside and think objectively. The Bills could just as easily won the past four matchups as lose them, and it's likely true going forward. There's no magical mystery powder when teams are this even. There's only probability. (Except for the cheating refs. 🤨)

[Mikie2times]

2 hours ago, finn said:

Flip a coin ten times, with heads your "team." It comes up tails four times in a row, and fans of the tail team are strutting around talking trash. You can point out how easily it could have gone the other way, but the tail fans will just call you a whiner making excuses. They'll boast that tails are dominant, they own the heads, their team (and, by extension, they themselves) are winners, heads and their fans losers. 

 

Put ego aside and think objectively. The Bills could just as easily won the past four matchups as lose them, and it's likely true going forward. There's no magical mystery powder when teams are this even. There's only probability. (Except for the cheating refs. 🤨)

Odd take. So I guess whenever a QB and team do remarkable clutch things repetitively, we can just take away the credit and give it to luck. Brady, Montana, Elway, now Mahomes. Those skilled coin flippers. They are t just good when it counts they got lucky. Pshhhhh……

[finn]

17 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

Odd take. So I guess whenever a QB and team do remarkable clutch things repetitively, we can just take away the credit and give it to luck. Brady, Montana, Elway, now Mahomes. Those skilled coin flippers. They are t just good when it counts they got lucky. Pshhhhh……

You should join my critical-thinking class. In fact, we'll be addressing the Straw Man fallacy next week. I don't use sarcasm on my students, but I'll use it on you since, as a veteran poster, you should know better. "Yes! In fact every success in every sport is due entirely to luck. Thank you SO much for understanding my position!"

 

I urge you to re-read my post. I said when teams are this close, probability plays an outsized role, and you can get lopsided results that do not reflect just how even the teams are. Yet shallow thinkers, never trained to bracket their knee-jerk reactions and actually think, insist that Destiny or Greatness are the real reason for the result. So Mahomes is far better than Allen, and the Bills are inferior as a whole to the Champions. 

 

I'm very glad I don't live in that world. I'm sure it's comfortable, but I would miss using my mind. 

[BlueRed]

I noticed LB Ulofoshio was added to the Browns practice squad. I haven’t seen any of the other Bills cuts be added anywhere yet - I’m always interested to see where some of these guys end up and get their next opportunity. 

[90sBills]

2 hours ago, finn said:

Flip a coin ten times, with heads your "team." It comes up tails four times in a row, and fans of the tail team are strutting around talking trash. You can point out how easily it could have gone the other way, but the tail fans will just call you a whiner making excuses. They'll boast that tails are dominant, they own the heads, their team (and, by extension, they themselves) are winners, heads and their fans losers. 

 

Put ego aside and think objectively. The Bills could just as easily won the past four matchups as lose them, and it's likely true going forward. There's no magical mystery powder when teams are this even. There's only probability. (Except for the cheating refs. 🤨)

NFL football games are not coin flips. There’s something to be said about losing to the same team 4 times at the most crucial moments of those seasons. Does this mean the Bills can’t ever beat KC in the playoffs? Of course not. What it does mean is KC should be the #1 priority and it’s not an easy task despite the close outcomes. 

[90sBills]

3 hours ago, Dunkirk Donski said:

In his defense his claim was that we were not “dominated”. 

The rest of his post were refs, injuries, and bad executions (missed fg) as reasons we lost. 

[Mikie2times]

1 hour ago, finn said:

You should join my critical-thinking class. In fact, we'll be addressing the Straw Man fallacy next week. I don't use sarcasm on my students, but I'll use it on you since, as a veteran poster, you should know better. "Yes! In fact every success in every sport is due entirely to luck. Thank you SO much for understanding my position!"

 

I urge you to re-read my post. I said when teams are this close, probability plays an outsized role, and you can get lopsided results that do not reflect just how even the teams are. Yet shallow thinkers, never trained to bracket their knee-jerk reactions and actually think, insist that Destiny or Greatness are the real reason for the result. So Mahomes is far better than Allen, and the Bills are inferior as a whole to the Champions. 

 

I'm very glad I don't live in that world. I'm sure it's comfortable, but I would miss using my mind. 

Listen, I get that I really don't have a place with next level thinkers like yourself. But some of us smooth brains look at how teams execute in critical moments as way to evaluate them. We don't chalk that consistent execution or failure to execute up to luck, to do so would invalidate the difficulty of executing in those situations.  It would remove credit from the teams that do. It would effectively rewrite the history of the game.

 

I know that seems intriguing to the most brilliant minds but us simple people tend to think those moments are made up of failed execution. Situations like letting a defensive lineman plant your QB a millisecond before he hits a wide open WR. Leaving the seams completely unprotected with almost no time in the game remaining. Not recognizing a blitz package forcing an off script throw and then dropping a pass or multiple passes. But I get this is a simple view. The simple view actually puts responsibility on the teams for outcomes while the brilliant minds know it's all just random.  

 

Who would argue that we aren't close? Nobody. The argument is what does close actually mean? Coin flips or being consistently outflanked and outmaneuvered. 

Edited September 1 by Mikie2times

[finn]

27 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

NFL football games are not coin flips. There’s something to be said about losing to the same team 4 times at the most crucial moments of those seasons. Does this mean the Bills can’t ever beat KC in the playoffs? Of course not. What it does mean is KC should be the #1 priority and it’s not an easy task despite the close outcomes. 

I'm not saying the games are coin flips. I'm just pushing back on the notion that we can't talk about many variables in play without being accused of making excuses. The coin analogy was meant to illustrate probability, not to claim every game comes down only to luck. Obviously, many factors contribute to probability. 

 

That said, I do worry that losing four times to KC will get into the head of this Bills team. That might have happened to the Kelly-era Bills. I'm convinced that if they had beaten the Giants, they would have won at least one more Super Bowl, maybe more than one more. Kelly's nerves were jangled against the Redskins, and Thurman quit against the Cowboys. Those were two warriors, too.