UPDATE: ISRAEL v IRAN - Ceasefire reached?

[Homelander]

8 hours ago, boyst said:

are you new here? i don't recognize your level of stupidity...?

 

(new here as in the last 3-4 years)

 

Aw, sorry - maybe billsfans.com can help you process that emotional damage.

[Wacka]

16 minutes ago, ComradeKayAdams said:

 

Whose opinions I would trust, you ask? Select IAEA representatives plus Congressional members of national security and intelligence committees (of all political stripes: left and right, populist and establishment). We should be following Constitution-esque protocols when dealing with imminent nuclear threats. Would you have been comfortable with a senile Joe Biden whimsically and unilaterally bombing, say, Canada over unsubstantiated rumors of imminent nuclear annihilation?

 

Why am I still living here in the United States, you ask?? LOL…um, family and friends, career and culture, the melting pot ethos, a lifetime of cherished memories, the vast natural geographic beauty, representative democracy, the Bill of Rights, the Constitutional separation of powers, etc… What’s wrong with me using the political process to change public policy? Didn’t you try to do the same last November?

 

You are perfectly free to consider yourself an arbiter of what’s “American” and what’s not. Go ahead and declare imperialism and trickle-down economics “American,” while declaring universal health care and nationalized land/natural resources “un-American.” Just remember that at previous points in American history, ideas like slavery and Jim Crow and miscegenation and Gilded Age capitalism and legalized misogyny and the ethnic cleansing of Native Americans were considered sclerotic American values.

 

 

Yes, your post is a bit opaque to me, but I THINK I’m following: you’re telling me that there are clear standards for defining “imminent” nuclear emergencies like this one, and that you personally know of evidence existing that shows Iran crossed this “imminence” threshold? I’m honestly in no position to tell you that you are incorrect. I’m a civilian biomed device engineer who took one college elective course in intro nuclear science/engineering (random shout-out to the Lamarsh textbook…I still have it in my bookshelf!).

 

All I can tell you, anecdotally, is that my Dad is a solid-state materials physicist and a mild-mannered political centrist. His technical nuclear background is a lot better than mine, and he has DARPA funding under his belt. We talked about this exact topic for a few minutes last night, and he seems to think that the technological likelihood of Iran being able to strike Israel (let alone the U.S.) with nuclear weapons this calendar year is absurd.

 

 

 

P.S. My formal business wardrobe ratio of blazer dresses to CHIC pantsuits is officially 4.5. FOUR POINT FIVE. The implication that I might ever wear a frumpy Hillary Clinton warmonger pantsuit was completely out of line.

You don't have your own "Old Crusty"?

[ScotSHO]

7 minutes ago, Homelander said:

 

Aw, sorry - maybe billsfans.com can help you process that emotional damage.

Still sad they booted your a$$

[Homelander]

@BillsFanNC VPN alert.

[Homelander]

 

[Homelander]

 

[Homelander]

 

[reddogblitz]

4 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Yes.  And the Iranian regime unconditional surrender.   Or they are all killed.  

 

Then what?

[Homelander]

God bless Iran.

 

 

[Big Blitz]

This is a sad day for Homeloser

 

Seething that Trump is going to enter historic near divine like status remembered for all times.  
 

 

 

 

But you keep playing Daily Show, loser.  

[Homelander]

1 minute ago, Big Blitz said:

This is a sad day for Homeloser

 

Seething that Trump is going to enter historic near divine like status remembered for all times.  

 

Why does this always happen to you?

 

lmao

 

 

 

 

 

[Big Blitz]

 

[Homelander]

2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

 

[Big Blitz]

Just now, Homelander said:

 

 

 

 

Cope harder bro. 

[Homelander]

3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Cope harder bro. 

 

This guy is just as pathetic as you.

 

Vote for peace!

 

 

TRUST TRUMP!

 

 

It’s disappointing, though, that this seems to be yet another psyop.

 

 

[muppy]

1 hour ago, ComradeKayAdams said:

 

Whose opinions I would trust, you ask? Select IAEA representatives plus Congressional members of national security and intelligence committees (of all political stripes: left and right, populist and establishment). We should be following Constitution-esque protocols when dealing with imminent nuclear threats. Would you have been comfortable with a senile Joe Biden whimsically and unilaterally bombing, say, Canada over unsubstantiated rumors of imminent nuclear annihilation?

 

Why am I still living here in the United States, you ask?? LOL…um, family and friends, career and culture, the melting pot ethos, a lifetime of cherished memories, the vast natural geographic beauty, representative democracy, the Bill of Rights, the Constitutional separation of powers, etc… What’s wrong with me using the political process to change public policy? Didn’t you try to do the same last November?

 

You are perfectly free to consider yourself an arbiter of what’s “American” and what’s not. Go ahead and declare imperialism and trickle-down economics “American,” while declaring universal health care and nationalized land/natural resources “un-American.” Just remember that at previous points in American history, ideas like slavery and Jim Crow and miscegenation and Gilded Age capitalism and legalized misogyny and the ethnic cleansing of Native Americans were considered sclerotic American values.

 

 

Yes, your post is a bit opaque to me, but I THINK I’m following: you’re telling me that there are clear standards for defining “imminent” nuclear emergencies like this one, and that you personally know of evidence existing that shows Iran crossed this “imminence” threshold? I’m honestly in no position to tell you that you are incorrect. I’m a civilian biomed device engineer who took one college elective course in intro nuclear science/engineering (random shout-out to the Lamarsh textbook…I still have it in my bookshelf!).

 

All I can tell you, anecdotally, is that my Dad is a solid-state materials physicist and a mild-mannered political centrist. His technical nuclear background is a lot better than mine, and he has DARPA funding under his belt. We talked about this exact topic for a few minutes last night, and he seems to think that the technological likelihood of Iran being able to strike Israel (let alone the U.S.) with nuclear weapons this calendar year is absurd.

 

 

 

I feel like we’re going around in tautological circles at this point? Absent new nuclear intelligence information that is made publicly available, let’s agree to disagree. I envisage scenarios in which we’re aligned with what the proper course of action should have been.

 

P.S. My formal business wardrobe ratio of blazer dresses to CHIC pantsuits is officially 4.5. FOUR POINT FIVE. The implication that I might ever wear a frumpy Hillary Clinton warmonger pantsuit was completely out of line. You’re out of your element, Leh-ny, and how dare you.

greetings Kay I have a reply to your replies.

 

the first post I want to say that lionesses Don''t concern themselves with the opinions of sheep. I  did not expect anyone to call you out as "unamericaan' what a low value comment you gave too much time in reply too. WTF. That is example of a person who wants to harm you sis, Not learn a  dang thing. pffft

 

in regards to you dad Now we know where Kay got her smarts. Clearly her MOTHER 

 

that's a joke. Of course in this context I meant father. Smarty-pants family. Does this surprise me? ZERO

 

It's not wise to trifle  but trifle Kay? come on now.

 

m

 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by muppy

[Orlando Buffalo]

 

We did follow the Constitution on the strike of Iran, there is nothing that requires Congress for it, nothing at all. Your comparison of Canada to Iran is so insane it is hard to believe you made it. As for if I am the arbiter of what is truly American, you don't have to agree with me to be a true American but to believe the crap you do and then sticking around is insane when there are so many countries more to your liking. I assure you if you go to a better place your family will start following in short order 

1 hour ago, ComradeKayAdams said:

 

Whose opinions I would trust, you ask? Select IAEA representatives plus Congressional members of national security and intelligence committees (of all political stripes: left and right, populist and establishment). We should be following Constitution-esque protocols when dealing with imminent nuclear threats. Would you have been comfortable with a senile Joe Biden whimsically and unilaterally bombing, say, Canada over unsubstantiated rumors of imminent nuclear annihilation?

 

Why am I still living here in the United States, you ask?? LOL…um, family and friends, career and culture, the melting pot ethos, a lifetime of cherished memories, the vast natural geographic beauty, representative democracy, the Bill of Rights, the Constitutional separation of powers, etc… What’s wrong with me using the political process to change public policy? Didn’t you try to do the same last November?

 

You are perfectly free to consider yourself an arbiter of what’s “American” and what’s not. Go ahead and declare imperialism and trickle-down economics “American,” while declaring universal health care and nationalized land/natural resources “un-American.” Just remember that at previous points in American history, ideas like slavery and Jim Crow and miscegenation and Gilded Age capitalism and legalized misogyny and the ethnic cleansing of Native Americans were considered sclerotic American values.

 

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[Big Blitz]

42 minutes ago, Homelander said:

 

This guy is just as pathetic as you.

 

Vote for peace!

 

 

TRUST TRUMP!

 

 

It’s disappointing, though, that this seems to be yet another psyop.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[dgrochester55]

If you want to separate the liberals who think for themselves and form their own opinions from the TDS people who let the politicians and media behind that movement do the thinking for them, the reaction to this ceasefire should determine that.

 

If admitting that Trump made a good move is more painful than a potential nuclear war, then it is TDS. No one in their right mind should think that avoiding a possible nuclear war and a ceasefire between two nations that could have done a lot of damage to each other is a bad thing.

Edited 4 hours ago by dgrochester55

[Big Blitz]

First Pakistan

 

Now Israel and Iran. 
 

 

The President of Peace