JFKjr Posted August 11 Posted August 11 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: It must hurt to be this stupid. Certainly must hurt your standard of living. I almost feel sorry for you. How many shots did you take in total? Stupid = taking a brand new genetic experimental shot with the assurance that it was "safe and effective" from people who couldn't have known either of those things. More stupid = doubling down on that.
All_Pro_Bills Posted August 11 Posted August 11 8 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: What does this mean? It means if you accept anything past 33 thermocycles as a positive you are saying that someone is positive with zero clinical relevancy. They have no clinical symptoms and aren't shedding virus so they can't transmit. Yet they locked people down for days anyway because the result was "positive" At around 35+ cycles you've either amplified viral debris, caught a non specific false positive.....or you've just happened to catch a very early infection. Which is precisely why you don't use PCR to mass screen for positives, you use cheap at home rapid immunoassays that can be tested at home reliably and as often as needed to catch true positives The PCR covid assays were clown world to anyone who has ever developed and performed diagnostic PCR tests. IOW not Quack. He swallowed this ***** deep. Through a fire hose and then puked it out as if his MD makes him an authority in any way, shape or form. Even the guy that invented the PCR test warned of how the amplification factor could lead to false positives and the wrong conclusions about the virus. 1
stevestojan Posted August 11 Posted August 11 (edited) 1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said: Bullstojan! You're 10 years away from being geriatric I suppose. I've forgotten more about immunology, specifically as it relates to vaccines, than both you and Quack could ever dream of actually "knowing" combined. 😂 Scientist! 😂😂😂😂 Does that job description say “do science stuff 10% of the time and the remaining 90% be a creep and talk about glory holes and “Russia Russia Russia!!” on a football message board? Do the last remaining loved ones who don’t completely ignore you ever since you became a creepy old conspiracy theorist just play along with “yes, grandpa, you sure are a scientist..” Edited August 11 by stevestojan 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 11 Posted August 11 16 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: What does this mean? It means if you accept anything past 33 thermocycles as a positive you are saying that someone is positive with zero clinical relevancy. They have no clinical symptoms and aren't shedding virus so they can't transmit. Yet they locked people down for days anyway because the result was "positive" At around 35+ cycles you've either amplified viral debris, caught a non specific false positive.....or you've just happened to catch a very early infection. Which is precisely why you don't use PCR to mass screen for positives, you use cheap at home rapid immunoassays that can be tested at home reliably and as often as needed to catch true positives The PCR covid assays were clown world to anyone who has ever developed and performed diagnostic PCR tests. IOW not Quack. He swallowed this ***** deep. Through a fire hose and then puked it out as if his MD makes him an authority in any way, shape or form. I live and worked in the real world sensivity and specificity are paramount for any test poor sensitivity leads to false Negatives while poor specificity leads to false positives. The Covid test is extremely specific but no so sensitive. We see many more false negatives than false positives. https://scisimple.com/en/articles/2025-08-08-assessing-the-accuracy-of-covid-19-testing-methods--a9m8r82
BillsFanNC Posted August 11 Posted August 11 (edited) 23 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Even the guy that invented the PCR test warned of how the amplification factor could lead to false positives and the wrong conclusions about the virus. PCR testing can be valuable with high specificity and sensitivity, but if you set the thresholds out of wack...then garbage out. Which again was precisely the point during covid. Not to mention the tests are very susceptible to contamination, which is why you need highly trained lab personnel to run the tests. Something that was not even remotely close to possible during covid with all the tests they tried to run. Then there were reagent shortages so you couldn't get a result in a timely manner most of the time anyway. What good is a result when you get it three to five days after collecting the sample? I actually went to one of the drive through PCR test sites the second time I had covid. Then I came home and immediately ran a rapid immunoassay. The at home test was a screaming positive. A 5/5 test line intensity that we used for scoring qualitative tests as semi quantitative. The next day I received my PCR result. Negative. 😂 A total ***** show. Edited August 11 by BillsFanNC
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 11 Posted August 11 38 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: PCR testing can be valuable with high specificity and sensitivity, but if you set the thresholds out of wack...then So insightful. This is true of any clinical test. And what happens when you set threshold to maximize sensitivity? Specificity? You set them where you believe they’ll be most beneficial…
JFKjr Posted August 11 Posted August 11 35 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: So insightful. This is true of any clinical test. And what happens when you set threshold to maximize sensitivity? Specificity? You set them where you believe they’ll be most beneficial… Do you still trust the mRNA platform? Okay with it if they start using it for the annual flu shot? YOUR annual flu shot?
stevestojan Posted August 11 Posted August 11 1 hour ago, JFKjr said: Oh man it’s awesome to see folks like you post stuff that has been debunked more times that it’s been believed and shared by maga morons.
JFKjr Posted August 11 Posted August 11 1 minute ago, stevestojan said: Oh man it’s awesome to see folks like you post stuff that has been debunked more times that it’s been believed and shared by maga morons. The biggest thing debunked: SAFE AND EFFECTIVE. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 11 Posted August 11 (edited) 21 minutes ago, JFKjr said: Do you still trust the mRNA platform? Okay with it if they start using it for the annual flu shot? YOUR annual flu shot? You answered a post about testing with a question on mRNA. Please don’t perform a job requiring any level of responsibility. Yes, I’d take a mRNA flu vax. I am intrigued with the neuroaminidase inhibitor directed tech,however it’s probablyears off. Edited August 11 by Joe Ferguson forever
JFKjr Posted August 11 Posted August 11 16 minutes ago, stevestojan said: ⬆️ DEFLECTION Darn those scientists. We describe plausible mechanisms and argue that the three primary causes of death associated with the excess all-cause mortality during (and after) the Covid period are: (1) Biological (including psychological) stress from mandates such as lockdowns and associated socio-economic structural changes (2) Non-COVID-19-vaccine medical interventions such as mechanical ventilators and drugs (including denial of treatment with antibiotics) 5 (3) COVID-19 vaccine injection rollouts, including repeated rollouts on the same Spatiotemporal Variation of Excess All-Cause Mortality (125 Countries during Covid period 2020-23) 2
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 11 Posted August 11 16 minutes ago, JFKjr said: Darn those scientists. We describe plausible mechanisms and argue that the three primary causes of death associated with the excess all-cause mortality during (and after) the Covid period are: (1) Biological (including psychological) stress from mandates such as lockdowns and associated socio-economic structural changes (2) Non-COVID-19-vaccine medical interventions such as mechanical ventilators and drugs (including denial of treatment with antibiotics) 5 (3) COVID-19 vaccine injection rollouts, including repeated rollouts on the same Spatiotemporal Variation of Excess All-Cause Mortality (125 Countries during Covid period 2020-23) The lead author is a real peach. Fired from his job with fringe views on just about everything. He’s a physicist, not an epidemiologist or clinician. He should be ignored or ridiculed. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Rancourt 1
BillsFanNC Posted August 11 Posted August 11 It been debunked! By the same reliable media stooges who told you that the border was secure and Biden's obvious senility moments were cheap fakes. 😂
JFKjr Posted August 11 Posted August 11 34 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: You answered a post about testing with a question on mRNA. Please don’t perform a job requiring any level of responsibility. Yes, I’d take a mRNA flu vax. I am intrigued with the neuroaminidase inhibitor directed tech,however it’s probablyears off. Of course you'd take an mRNA flu vax. Because you have intelligence but lack common sense. WASHINGTON, D.C. — The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) today announced the beginning of a coordinated wind-down of its mRNA vaccine development activities under the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), including the cancellation and de-scoping of various contracts and solicitations. The decision follows a comprehensive review of mRNA-related investments initiated during the COVID-19 public health emergency. HHS Winds Down mRNA Vaccine Development
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 11 Posted August 11 5 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: It been debunked! By the same reliable media stooges who told you that the border was secure and Biden's obvious senility moments were cheap fakes. 😂 please mimic JFK and link an article from an obscure, disgraced nobody who's likely lost his mind. Will be much more entertaining if not more informative than reliable media. smh, pretty much the entirety of scientific literature is available at one's fingertips yet he chooses an obvious crackpot. 2 minutes ago, JFKjr said: Of course you'd take an mRNA flu vax. Because you have intelligence but lack common sense. WASHINGTON, D.C. — The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) today announced the beginning of a coordinated wind-down of its mRNA vaccine development activities under the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), including the cancellation and de-scoping of various contracts and solicitations. The decision follows a comprehensive review of mRNA-related investments initiated during the COVID-19 public health emergency. HHS Winds Down mRNA Vaccine Development gee, I wonder why they're doing this. The brain worm thrives in his brain. 1
JFKjr Posted August 11 Posted August 11 1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: please mimic JFK and link an article from an obscure, disgraced nobody who's likely lost his mind. Will be much more entertaining if not more informative than reliable media. smh, pretty much the entirety of scientific literature is available at one's fingertips yet he chooses an obvious crackpot. I'm sorry you've got mRNA in your system. While I don't agree with a lot of your views, I wish everyone here the best of health. It can't be easy with the ramifications of mRNA hanging over your head like the Sword of Damocles. 2
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 11 Posted August 11 (edited) I watched yours. Now watch mine A smart person who is helping to improve the world. Edited August 11 by Joe Ferguson forever
Tenhigh Posted August 11 Posted August 11 On 8/10/2025 at 9:45 AM, 4th&long said: Case in point. This is why I was against making people get the vaccine. The more of these idiots that died the better of this country will be. I hope all you idiots listen to RFK. White trash. Racist and classist? Real stand up guy here.... 1
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