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  On 5/15/2025 at 2:16 PM, Homelander said:

 

Nothing says ‘patriot’ like cheering a foreign dictatorship for handing a president a $400M jet.

 

Air Force One isn’t some outdated relic, it’s a flying fortress loaded with cutting-edge, military-grade tech.

 

Trump accepting a luxury 747 from Qatar isn’t about upgrades, it’s about payoffs. You’re not defending modernization you’re defending corruption dressed in gold-plated ego.

 

 

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The new AF1 was ordered in 2018 and won't be available until 2029 most likely despite the initial date of 2022. To assume that tech from more than a decade ago is cutting edge makes you look even dumber than you realize.

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  On 5/15/2025 at 4:02 PM, Niagara Bill said:

Or more...look at the money Doge will save on elections.

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For elections we have a great model in FL, where we have 99% counted by the end of the night, it is only the liberal run areas that are incompetent. Apparently in Canada everything is wrapped up with 48 hours, I believe?

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  On 5/15/2025 at 1:43 PM, Doc said:

Yeah, what a jerk.  Who wouldn't want to be flying in a plane with technology from 40 years ago?  Meanwhile most libs don't want to keep their cell phones for more than a year or two...  :rolleyes:

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Yeah I'm sure they let air force one go over the years. It's a real toilet. 

Of all things donny two dolls does his love of gold and looking like Richie Rich is not one I care about. Not my style but if that's what he gets off on more power top him. 

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  On 5/15/2025 at 4:21 PM, Orlando Buffalo said:

For elections we have a great model in FL, where we have 99% counted by the end of the night, it is only the liberal run areas that are incompetent. Apparently in Canada everything is wrapped up with 48 hours, I believe?

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24 hours in Canada but recounts can take 7 days because of controls. Speed is nice, accuracy is required.

  On 5/15/2025 at 4:35 PM, JFKjr said:

 

True! Maybe he'll get another Covid booster.

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More likely an emergency of his making will stop election cycle, like takeover effort of the very dangerous Canada.

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If Air Force One is so outdated, why the hell are we still flying the most important person in the world around on a clunker?

 

 

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The Constitution prohibits federal officials from accepting things of value, or “emoluments,” from foreign governments without congressional approval.

“This is a classic example of what the founders worried about,” said Richard Painter, a law professor at the University of Minnesota and former White House ethics chief under Bush. “But I don’t think the founders anticipated it would get this bad.”

 

In his second term, Trump’s family business has been very busy overseas. In December, it struck a deal for two Trump-branded real estate projects in Riyadh with a Saudi firm that two years earlier it had partnered with for a Trump golf resort and villas in Oman. And in Qatar, the Trump Organization announced last month another Trump branded resort along the coast.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/will-the-new-air-force-one-be-secure-qatars-gift-to-trump-raises-questions#:~:text=The two planes currently used,design of his personal plane.
 

Does everyone here think there is no ethical conflict with Trump and family and the Saudis or Qatars? For all the justifiable outrage about Hunter Biden, republicans just ignore Trump and family deals. What a cult. Rule #1: You can never criticize the Great Orange Leader. 

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  On 5/15/2025 at 6:27 PM, Orlando Buffalo said:

7 days for recounts is impressive, I truly think we should work towards that model. 

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It takes a long time for those dogsleds to bring in the ballot boxes!😀

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  On 5/15/2025 at 2:30 PM, Homelander said:

The $400M luxury jet from Qatar to Trump’s orbit isn’t a mystery it’s public record. Call it a gift, call it a deal, but when a foreign regime drops hundreds of millions on a president it’s not charity. That’s the payoff and pretending not to see it doesn’t make it disappear.

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Again, a payoff for what specifically?  What is he getting from them (besides a plane that will be for Official Presidential use)?

 

  On 5/15/2025 at 4:35 PM, 4th&long said:

Yeah I'm sure they let air force one go over the years. It's a real toilet. 

Of all things donny two dolls does his love of gold and looking like Richie Rich is not one I care about. Not my style but if that's what he gets off on more power top him. 

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Using that brilliance, why not use fighter jets that have been maintained from almost 40 years ago?  I mean, it's just that simple...

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  On 5/15/2025 at 11:13 PM, Doc said:

 

Again, a payoff for what specifically?  What is he getting from them (besides a plane that will be for Official Presidential use)?

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You don't have a problem with this? 

 

Anticipating those questions, sources told ABC News that lawyers for the White House counsel's office and the Department of Justice drafted an analysis for Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth concluding that is legal for the Department of Defense to accept the aircraft as a gift and later turn it over to the Trump library, and that it does not violate laws against bribery or the Constitution's prohibition (the emoluments clause) of any U.S. government official accepting gifts "from any King, Prince or foreign State." Trump administration poised to accept 'palace in the sky' as a gift for Trump from Qatar: Sources - ABC News

 

Why is the administration so willing to sidestep Congress - the very body the Constitution says must approve foreign gifts?

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  On 5/15/2025 at 11:25 PM, Homelander said:

You don't have a problem with this? 

 

Anticipating those questions, sources told ABC News that lawyers for the White House counsel's office and the Department of Justice drafted an analysis for Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth concluding that is legal for the Department of Defense to accept the aircraft as a gift and later turn it over to the Trump library, and that it does not violate laws against bribery or the Constitution's prohibition (the emoluments clause) of any U.S. government official accepting gifts "from any King, Prince or foreign State." Trump administration poised to accept 'palace in the sky' as a gift for Trump from Qatar: Sources - ABC News

 

Why is the administration so willing to sidestep Congress - the very body the Constitution says must approve foreign gifts?

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If it's being used for Official business and retired after he's out of Office (and the replacements are ready), it's not a personal gift.

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  On 5/15/2025 at 11:30 PM, Doc said:

 

If it's being used for Official business and retired after he's out of Office (and the replacements are ready), it's not a personal gift.

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According to who? 

 

 

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  On 5/15/2025 at 11:31 PM, Homelander said:

According to who?

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What do you mean according to who?  It's going to be AF1.  That's property of the military/US and to be used for Official duties.

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  On 5/15/2025 at 11:13 PM, Doc said:

 

Again, a payoff for what specifically?  What is he getting from them (besides a plane that will be for Official Presidential use)?

 


Using that brilliance, why not use fighter jets that have been maintained from almost 40 years ago?  I mean, it's just that simple...

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No one said not to get a new one but I'm sure air force one is in top notch shape, not a loose nut or screw on it. It is kept up to date Technically also. It dose not justify breaking the constitution to accept a bribe, Trojan horse, from a state that sponsership Terrorism. He is accepting a bribe from the same type of people he wants to throw out of the country. You guys control congress, go thru the proper channels to accept the bribe. 

  On 5/15/2025 at 11:30 PM, Doc said:

 

If it's being used for Official business and retired after he's out of Office (and the replacements are ready), it's not a personal gift.

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If it's retired then it is a bribe. If it's not presidents that follow Trump should be able to use it. 

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  On 5/15/2025 at 11:42 PM, 4th&long said:

No one said not to get a new one but I'm sure air force one is in top notch shape, not a loose nut or screw on it. It is kept up to date Technically also. It dose not justify breaking the constitution to accept a bribe, Trojan horse, from a state that sponsership Terrorism. He is accepting a bribe from the same type of people he wants to throw out of the country. You guys control congress, go thru the proper channels to accept the bribe. 

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If that were the case, why were 2 Boeing 747's approved to be built in 2018?

 

And I agree with you that if it's a national security issue, it's not worth it.

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  On 5/15/2025 at 11:45 PM, Doc said:

 

If that were the case, why were 2 Boeing 747's approved to be built in 2018?

 

And I agree with you that if it's a national security issue, it's not worth it.

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There is always two. There are two now. 

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