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  On 1/16/2025 at 3:25 AM, Joe Ferguson forever said:

link?  don't believe that's true.  at any rate, we don't have enough high level scientists, mathematicians etc.  can't compete without them.  they are what it takes to be great and not just ordinary.  The MAGA paradox...

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I agree with you right up until you last sentence…You are not listening because you already have your prescribed narrative…

 

(MAGA is not a monolith…There are many varying and competing views within the movement…)

 

My first reply to you was that I’m ok with the program so long as qualified Americans come first…

 

This is just common sense…

 

 

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  On 1/16/2025 at 3:39 AM, JaCrispy said:

I agree with you right up until you last sentence…You are not listening because you already have your prescribed narrative…

 

(MAGA is not a monolith…There are many varying and competing views within the movement…)

 

My first reply to you was that I’m ok with the program so long as qualified Americans come first…

 

This is just common sense…

 

 

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look at the demographics from last election re education level.  Pew research has some good numbers.

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  On 1/16/2025 at 4:03 AM, JaCrispy said:

Whats your point?

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umm, that to be great, extraordinary people are required.  Few MAGAs are extraordinary.  Many are below average and thus to stay competitive, we need to import the creme de la creme which ironically, many MAGAs object to:  The MAGA paradox.

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  On 1/16/2025 at 2:32 PM, IrishLass said:

 

As long as liberals keep with this take, they will keep losing.

 

Which works fine for me smart guy, lol.

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works fine for me too.  early retirement...and what "take"?  what I wrote is fact

  On 1/16/2025 at 4:03 AM, JaCrispy said:

Whats your point?

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btw, where's you data supporting the contention that H1B's are mostly low and medium skilled workers or did you just hear that on some white Christian nationalist propaganda show?

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  On 1/16/2025 at 2:30 PM, Joe Ferguson forever said:

umm, that to be great, extraordinary people are required.  Few MAGAs are extraordinary.  Many are below average and thus to stay competitive, we need to import the creme de la creme which ironically, many MAGAs object to:  The MAGA paradox.

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Few non-MAGAs are as well.

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  On 1/16/2025 at 2:30 PM, Joe Ferguson forever said:

umm, that to be great, extraordinary people are required.  Few MAGAs are extraordinary.  Many are below average and thus to stay competitive, we need to import the creme de la creme which ironically, many MAGAs object to:  The MAGA paradox.

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So you’re saying there are zero extraordinary people on your side? 😉

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  On 1/16/2025 at 11:10 PM, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

The democrat air of superiority is exactly why they lost. Keep it up! There are plenty of educated right wingers. Do you come here and just post whatever leaks out your ass?

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I truly wish it wasn't true but it is.  "Plenty" is difficult to define.  Of the non college grad voters, about 60% voted for trump.  Less than 40% of non college grad voters voted for Harris.  Of the highly educated (masters or above) about 60% voted for Harris.  Only about 14% of Americans have a masters or higher degree.  Therefore  about 9 of 100 highly educated Americans are Harris voters and 5 of 100 are trump voters.  Many on both sides don't hold those degrees in STEM areas.  Employers are telling us that they need more than can be internally provided.

 

So no, it's not anal leakage.  It's intellectual laziness among both sides but much more so among trumpers.

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1535279/presidential-election-exit-polls-share-votes-education-us/

  On 1/16/2025 at 9:45 PM, Doc said:


Few non-MAGAs are as well.

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ibid.

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  On 1/16/2025 at 11:10 PM, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

The democrat air of superiority is exactly why they lost. Keep it up! There are plenty of educated right wingers. Do you come here and just post whatever leaks out your ass?

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This is the same senile quack that thinks 01/06 was worse than 09/11.

 

A person with that take is either a troll or mentally unstable. They have no credibility and should only be ridiculed and pointed out to the rest of society as an example of what happens after decades of drugs and untreated mental illness.

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  On 1/17/2025 at 2:38 PM, Joe Ferguson forever said:

I truly wish it wasn't true but it is.  "Plenty" is difficult to define.  Of the non college grad voters, about 60% voted for trump.  Less than 40% of non college grad voters voted for Harris.  Of the highly educated (masters or above) about 60% voted for Harris.  Only about 14% of Americans have a masters or higher degree.  Therefore  about 9 of 100 highly educated Americans are Harris voters and 5 of 100 are trump voters.  Many on both sides don't hold those degrees in STEM areas.  Employers are telling us that they need more than can be internally provided.

 

So no, it's not anal leakage.  It's intellectual laziness among both sides but much more so among trumpers.

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1535279/presidential-election-exit-polls-share-votes-education-us/

ibid.

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You are a prime example of being educated doesn't make you intelligent. Good luck though.

  On 1/17/2025 at 2:38 PM, Joe Ferguson forever said:

I truly wish it wasn't true but it is.  "Plenty" is difficult to define.  Of the non college grad voters, about 60% voted for trump.  Less than 40% of non college grad voters voted for Harris.  Of the highly educated (masters or above) about 60% voted for Harris.  Only about 14% of Americans have a masters or higher degree.  Therefore  about 9 of 100 highly educated Americans are Harris voters and 5 of 100 are trump voters.  Many on both sides don't hold those degrees in STEM areas.  Employers are telling us that they need more than can be internally provided.

 

So no, it's not anal leakage.  It's intellectual laziness among both sides but much more so among trumpers.

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1535279/presidential-election-exit-polls-share-votes-education-us/

ibid.

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I bet alot of those non educated are trade workers who most likely out earn alot of the educated.

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  On 1/17/2025 at 4:23 PM, AlBUNDY4TDS said:
  On 1/17/2025 at 2:38 PM, Joe Ferguson forever said:

 

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I bet alot of those non educated are trade workers who most likely out earn alot of the educated.

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Nope.  https://www.bls.gov/emp/chart-unemployment-earnings-education.htm

  On 1/17/2025 at 2:43 PM, dgrochester55 said:

 

This is the same senile quack that thinks 01/06 was worse than 09/11.

 

A person with that take is either a troll or mentally unstable. They have no credibility and should only be ridiculed and pointed out to the rest of society as an example of what happens after decades of drugs and untreated mental illness.

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Internal terrorism is worse than external.  Even the dog shooting trumper tool from SD said so today.

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  On 1/17/2025 at 5:28 PM, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Nope.  https://www.bls.gov/emp/chart-unemployment-earnings-education.htm

Internal terrorism is worse than external.  Even the dog shooting trumper tool from SD said so today.

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You are a complete joke still holding on to your 1/6 narrative. No credibility whatsoever.

  On 1/17/2025 at 5:53 PM, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

You are a complete joke still holding on to your 1/6 narrative. No credibility whatsoever.

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And your graph doesn't include apprenticeship programs or other on the job training. Disingenuous at best.

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