J.D. Vance - Character and Policies

[Doc]

11 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

No idea?  BS

 

trump made the goal clear that shameful day:

 

Now, it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy. And after this, we're going to walk down, and I'll be there with you, we're going to walk down, we're going to walk down.

Anyone you want, but I think right here, we're going to walk down to the Capitol, and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them.

Because you'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong. We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated.

 

He told them to"peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."  Nowhere did he even hint about breaking into the Capitol.  And again, once they entered the Capitol...they had no plan and while there was a delay in certifying the election, it still proceeded.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

4 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

He told them to"peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."  Nowhere did he even hint about breaking into the Capitol.  And again, once they entered the Capitol...they had no plan and while there was a delay in certifying the election, it still proceeded.

you're conveniently omitting the goal he specifically stated, peaceful (wink, wink) or not..  i'd type it again but you'd just ignore or obfuscate.  it's what MAGAs do...

Edited August 21, 2024 by Joe Ferguson forever

[Doc]

Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said:

you're conveniently omitting the goal he specifically stated.  i'd type it again but you'd just ignore or obfuscate.  it's what MAGAs do...

 

You mean the "demanding" part?  So?  Again nowhere did he say "break into the Capitol" and when they ignored that and broke in didn't demand anything.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

4 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

You mean the "demanding" part?  So?  Again nowhere did he say "break into the Capitol" and when they ignored that and broke in didn't demand anything.

I asked you "what was the goal"?  trump told us.  whether he said "break into the capitol" or not doesn't matter in answering this question.   His stated goal "only count the electors who were lawfully slated (who are those meant to be? -really, I want you to tell me) was what Jan 6 was all about.

Edited August 21, 2024 by Joe Ferguson forever

[Doc]

Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said:

I asked you "what was the goal"?  trump told us.  whether he said "break into the capitol" or not doesn't matter in answering this question.  

 

The goal was obviously for him to remain President.  By having people "peacefully and patriotically mak[ing their] voices heard."  It wasn't much of a plan and evidence by the fact that he didn't even bother going to the Capitol himself.  Some idiots got the brilliant idea to break into the Capitol and people followed but once inside they were mostly peaceful and the election results were eventually certified.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

11 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

The goal was obviously for him to remain President.  By having people "peacefully and patriotically mak[ing their] voices heard."  It wasn't much of a plan and evidence by the fact that he didn't even bother going to the Capitol himself.  Some idiots got the brilliant idea to break into the Capitol and people followed but once inside they were mostly peaceful and the election results were eventually certified.

For him to remain president…and how was peacefully walking to the capitol going to accomplish that?  How do you imagine he thought that could happen?  How could that happen under the constitution?  Because it was unsuccessful doesn’t absolve him. Stop being a fool. You don’t even believe what your typing 

Edited August 21, 2024 by Joe Ferguson forever

[Doc]

3 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

For him to remain president…and how was peacefully walking to the capitol going to accomplish that?  How do you imagine he thought that could happen?  How could that happen under the constitution?  Because it was unsuccessful doesn’t absolve him. Stop being a fool. You don’t even believe what your typing 

 

Sorry but "he made me do it" isn't a valid excuse anywhere, much less a court of law.  And again Trump never told them to break into the Capitol and wasn't even at the Capitol to incite the riot.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

Melania says hi

https://www.the-express.com/news/politics/146458/donald-trump-mocks-supporters-basement-dwellers-stephanie-grisham

“Trump] has no empathy, no morals, and no fidelity to the truth. He used to tell me, 'It doesn't matter what you say, Stephanie, say it enough, and people will believe you.' But it does matter, what you [say] matters and what you don't say matters. On January 6, I asked Melania if we could at least Tweet that, while peaceful protest is the right of every American, there's no place for lawlessness or violence, she replied with one word, 'No.'"

Edited August 21, 2024 by Joe Ferguson forever

[Joe Ferguson forever]

12 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Sorry but "he made me do it" isn't a valid excuse anywhere, much less a court of law.  And again Trump never told them to break into the Capitol and wasn't even at the Capitol to incite the riot.

Who gives a shite about the traitors excuse for their actions?  Trump wants to pardon them. Are you really this stupid or or you doing your willful ignorance act again?

[L Ron Burgundy]

2 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Who gives a shite about the traitors excuse for their actions?  Trump wants to pardon them. Are you really this stupid or or you doing your willful ignorance act again?

Ignorance.  Stop trying.   When it comes to Trump they are incapable of honesty.   When he croaks more nutty stories will come out.  In real life all the conservatives here will make like they were never pro Trump.

[Tommy Callahan]

1 hour ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Ignorance.  Stop trying.   When it comes to Trump they are incapable of honesty.   When he croaks more nutty stories will come out.  In real life all the conservatives here will make like they were never pro Trump.

Iron law in play.  Again

 

It's always projection and gaslighting on the left. Every time. 

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

5 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Ignorance.  Stop trying.   When it comes to Trump they are incapable of honesty.   When he croaks more nutty stories will come out.  In real life all the conservatives here will make like they were never pro Trump.

Yup. Notice he changed the argument from “   What was the goal of Jan 6?” To “ valid excuse for the rioters”. These fools are shameless and transparent   Trump got one thing right:  they’re basement dwellers

Edited August 21, 2024 by Joe Ferguson forever

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

8 hours ago, Doc said:

 

The goal was obviously for him to remain President.  By having people "peacefully and patriotically mak[ing their] voices heard."  It wasn't much of a plan and evidence by the fact that he didn't even bother going to the Capitol himself.  Some idiots got the brilliant idea to break into the Capitol and people followed but once inside they were mostly peaceful and the election results were eventually certified.

Angry people with weapons being told to fight like hell, ya sure Doc 

8 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Sorry but "he made me do it" isn't a valid excuse anywhere, much less a court of law.  And again Trump never told them to break into the Capitol and wasn't even at the Capitol to incite the riot.

It was dereliction of duty for him not to tell the violent protesters to stop violently attacking ou=r national legislature, right? 

 

If a cop saw a person being attacked, its his job to stop it. Trump laughed and watched it. 

 

Doc, that is criminal negligence 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Angry people with weapons being told to fight like hell, ya sure Doc 

It was dereliction of duty for him not to tell the violent protesters to stop violently attacking ou=r national legislature, right? 

 

If a cop saw a person being attacked, its his job to stop it. Trump laughed and watched it. 

 

Doc, that is criminal negligence 

They don't care.  Violence is an acceptable means to an end for MAGAs

[Tommy Callahan]

Every day. examples of the iron law being used by the same profiles over and over again.  ^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 minute ago, Tommy Callahan said:

Every day. examples of the iron law being used by the same profiles over and over again.  ^^^^^^^^^^^^

Did it happen or not?  If not, what did?

[Scraps]

12 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Whether he quit because he knew he was going to be deployed is secondary to claiming he actually was deployed.  But hey, who cares if the first part is a lie?  The reaction to it is hilarious!

I do find JD Vance's reaction to service member's retirement after 24 years rather funny.  I'm glad we finally agree on something.

 

12 hours ago, Doc said:

 

He told them to"peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."  Nowhere did he even hint about breaking into the Capitol.  And again, once they entered the Capitol...they had no plan and while there was a delay in certifying the election, it still proceeded.

Nothing says peaceful to me like showing up with a gallows.

[wnyguy]

2 minutes ago, Scraps said:

 

 

Nothing says peaceful to me like showing up with a gallows.

Well, they didn't actually use it. It was used as a prop kinda. So no one was hung or anything. In case you thought someone was.

[Scraps]

Just now, wnyguy said:

Well, they didn't actually use it. It was used as a prop kinda. So no one was hung or anything. In case you thought someone was.

Yeah the House and Senate evacuating behind armed guards was rather inconvenient.

[wnyguy]

Just now, Scraps said:

Yeah the House and Senate evacuating behind armed guards was rather inconvenient.

Yeah, someone should have just pulled a fire alarm instead.