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Josh running down the stretch 2020-2023


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I credit the team for rebounding from 6-6 after the Philly game and winning their final 5 to earn the 2nd seed and a home playoff game (hopefully more) this weekend.    

 

At the same time, you can't help but see that Josh is needed to run the ball down the stretch more each season, particularly after or into their normal mid-season swoon.  Either by design or when receivers may not be open - far too much Josh has is still carrying the ball and under all 3 coordinators they've had:

 

Under Daboll:

2020: Buffalo entered week 9 at 7-2, finished 6-1, with Josh averaging 5.5 runs to earn the second seed. (No games with more than 10 carries)

2021: Buffalo entered week 9 at 5-3, finished 6-3, with Josh averaging 7.2 runs to earn the third seed. (3 of last 5 games with 10 carries)

 

Under Dorsey:

2022: Buffalo entered week 9 at 6-2, finished 7-1, with Josh averaging 7.8 runs to earn the second seed. (3 of last 6 games with 10 carries)

 

Under first under Dorsey, then Brady:

2023: Entered week 9 at 5-3, finished 6-3, with Josh averaging 8.3 runs to earn the second seed.  (3 of last 5 games with 10 or more carries)

 

Maybe they'll finally re-look their offensive identity, personnel decisions, and play-calling this off-season to avoid needing to do this.  Until then, they're going to rely on Josh carrying the offense again in the playoffs.  

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2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Maybe they can get rid of the 9-yard passing plays?  Seriously what is it with those?  Get to the sticks so that your QB doesn't have to slam himself into the defense 5 times per game.

Any throw past the sticks is a TO risk.

 

Josh slamming into defense > Josh throwing an inexplicable pick.

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3 hours ago, FireChans said:

Josh slamming into defense > Josh throwing an inexplicable pick.

 

Comparison has to be having a healthy Josh > an injured Josh.

 

Josh has thrown too many picks, but there hasn't been much discussion of how several other NFL QB's have upped their number of picks.  Hurts had 15, Mahomes had 14, and Tua had 14.  

 

Real question is, are throwing a couple more INT's over the course of the season better than having a guy moderately to significantly degraded physically at 30?    

 

And what can the franchise do to make the passing game better, provided that Josh is preparing appropriately?

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2 minutes ago, BillsVet said:

 

Comparison has to be having a healthy Josh > an injured Josh.

 

Josh has thrown too many picks, but there hasn't been much discussion of how several other NFL QB's have upped their number of picks.  Hurts had 15, Mahomes had 14, and Tua had 14.  

 

Real question is, are throwing a couple more INT's over the course of the season better than having a guy moderately to significantly degraded physically at 30?    

 

And what can the franchise do to make the passing game better, provided that Josh is preparing appropriately?

Because Josh is worse than all of them?

 

Josh's INT% comparisons on the season is Mac Jones, Sam Howell, and Desmond Ridder.  Woof.

 

He can get better at this and make it moot.  Dak was near the top of the league in picks last year, and cut it down significantly this season.

 

As it stands, Josh still turns the ball over at a frightening rate when he passes the ball.  And he's gotta clean that up a bit.

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Funny thing about turnovers...

 

The two teams to lead the league in turnover differential?

 

Baltimore and the New York Giants at +19.  And the next 3 teams?  New Orleans, Pittsburgh, and Cincinnati.  

 

Maybe turnover differential ain't that big a deal as people are led to believe.  But what is a big deal and a guaranteed way to not make the playoffs is when your franchise QB is out for the season.  

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/team/_/view/turnovers/table/miscellaneous/sort/turnOverDifferential/dir/desc

 

 

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4 minutes ago, BillsVet said:

Funny thing about turnovers...

 

The two teams to lead the league in turnover differential?

 

Baltimore and the New York Giants at +19.  And the next 3 teams?  New Orleans, Pittsburgh, and Cincinnati.  

 

Maybe turnover differential ain't that big a deal as people are led to believe.  But what is a big deal and a guaranteed way to not make the playoffs is when your franchise QB is out for the season.  

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/team/_/view/turnovers/table/miscellaneous/sort/turnOverDifferential/dir/desc

 

 

Do you really believe that ?  🤔 

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4 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Maybe they can get rid of the 9-yard passing plays?  Seriously what is it with those?  Get to the sticks so that your QB doesn't have to slam himself into the defense 5 times per game.

2nd and 1 is the best down and distance in football. 3rd and 1 is also fantastic. If you're willing to sneak on 4th, you can attack and kill teams on the previous downs. Smart fans have been cheering 9 yard gains for years now.

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I think it was Colin Cowherd, he said that running Allen like this could/would lead to him having a short career.  Just the overall wear and tear on the body.  Cam Newton he used as an example.  He is only 34 and the Panthers let him go after 2019.  He was only 29.
 

Man I’d hate for that to happen with Allen 

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