cle23 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 On 8/14/2023 at 4:47 PM, NoSaint said: disclaimer: Gregg’s not good either and baker wouldn’t be their starter long term under him either I disagree. Mayfield was never going to be a top tier QB, but he could have been middle of the road, decent starter. Hell, he's going to be a starter again this year. Constant change in offense and coaches isn't good for anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, cle23 said: I disagree. Mayfield was never going to be a top tier QB, but he could have been middle of the road, decent starter. Hell, he's going to be a starter again this year. Constant change in offense and coaches isn't good for anyone. middle of the road decent starter as in QB14-18 range or like fringe top 10 guy? cause I could buy the lower being his likely upside and that’s a guy you try to replace. I’ll also say the comment was specifically referencing in Greggggg which I think is still a situation that would limit his upside too as that’s not a dream offensive coaching setup for him. No way gregggg was bringing elite offensive talent into the building. Edited August 16, 2023 by NoSaint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 47 minutes ago, NoSaint said: middle of the road decent starter as in QB14-18 range or like fringe top 10 guy? cause I could buy the lower being his likely upside and that’s a guy you try to replace. I’ll also say the comment was specifically referencing in Greggggg which I think is still a situation that would limit his upside too as that’s not a dream offensive coaching setup for him. No way gregggg was bringing elite offensive talent into the building. I'd say 12-18 range, with any given year jumping to 8ish. Not consistently, but if he could limit turnovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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