Thailog80 Posted May 4, 2005 Author Share Posted May 4, 2005 Evil Knievel That's got to piss the Browns off big time. I don't see no fruit basket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 At least our TE tore his ACL playing football. That'll be almost two complete seasons without him if this holds true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailog80 Posted May 4, 2005 Author Share Posted May 4, 2005 At least our TE tore his ACL playing football. That'll be almost two complete seasons without him if this holds true. 327926[/snapback] Those arent minor boo boo's are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Evil KnievelThat's got to piss the Browns off big time. I don't see no fruit basket? 327908[/snapback] Too bad his voice box wasn't crushed...two birds with one stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailog80 Posted May 4, 2005 Author Share Posted May 4, 2005 Too bad his voice box wan't crushed...two birds with one stone. 327933[/snapback] Why? The Poston brothers are his mouthpiece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Why? The Poston brothers are his mouthpiece. 327935[/snapback] I think they work another part of the anatomy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailog80 Posted May 4, 2005 Author Share Posted May 4, 2005 I think they work another part of the anatomy. 327938[/snapback] One takes one end and the other takes another part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 I think they work another part of the anatomy. 327938[/snapback] Matching hemorrhoids??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 it is times like these when i really have to try hard to prevent myself from finding joy in another's misfortune. i'm trying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffalOhio Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 From the Cleveland Plain Dealer: MOTORCYCLE ACCIDENT FALLOUT Injuries could prove costly Wednesday, May 04, 2005 Tony Grossi Plain Dealer Reporter Browns tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. remained under evaluation at the Cleveland Clinic on Tuesday after sustaining internal injuries and injuries to his right knee and shoulder in a motorcycle accident Sunday night. "There is no change in his condition," Browns spokesman Bill Bonsiwiecz said. Browns owner Randy Lerner and President John Collins were traveling Tuesday and would not comment until the full extent of Winslow's injuries are determined, Bonsiwiecz said. The club only has reported that Winslow's internal injuries are "stable" and that there is swelling in his right shoulder and knee. Winslow was hurt after he crashed his Suzuki GSX-R750 motorcycle into a raised parking lot curb at an approximate speed of 35 mph. He was thrown over the handlebars. After the extent of Winslow's injuries is determined, the business impact of his accident could be a costly one to the 21-year-old. Agents Kevin and Carl Poston, who represented Winslow in contract talks with the team, were scheduled to arrive in Cleveland today to visit with Winslow and possibly team officials, according to a woman who answered the telephone at Carl Poston's office in Houston. If the injuries prevent Winslow from playing any portion of the 2005 season, he would have breached his Browns contract and be subject to giving back money to the team. Winslow's original deal was six years for a maximum of $40 million - the highest ever for an NFL tight end. Winslow's right leg injuries last season prevented him from achieving one-time incentives that would have triggered $5.367 million in future bonuses and $5.215 million in future base salaries. So the maximum value of the deal shrunk to $29.4175 million. Winslow's misadventure with his motorcycle would violate Paragraph 3 of the standard NFL player's contract, which forbids the player from "engaging in any activity other than football which may involve significant risk of personal injury." Additionally, riding a motorcycle is expressly prohibited in Winslow's contract, according to an independent NFL source contacted by The Plain Dealer who has a copy of Winslow's contract. The clause in question states that Winslow is not covered for injury "as a result of participating in hazardous activities which involve a significant risk of personal injury and are non-football in nature, including, but not limited to skydiving, hang gliding, mountain climbing, auto racing, motorcycling, scuba diving and skiing." Depending on the number of games Winslow misses, the Browns could recoup a pro-rated portion of his $6 million signing bonus and the full amount of a $4.4125 million option bonus that was scheduled to be paid in March. Also, the team could withhold Winslow's 2005 base salary of $305,000 by putting him on the reserve/non-football injury list if he is unable to play at the start of the season. Bonsiwiecz said the Browns will not comment on Winslow's contract situation. Recouping money from a player is not rare, but it is a tenuous exercise that usually is forestalled until the team and player clearly are headed for a divorce. The Miami Dolphins have sought to reclaim $8.6 million in pro-rated bonuses and salaries paid to running back Ricky Williams as a result of his unexpected retirement last year and failed drug test. An NFL-appointed arbitrator sided with the Dolphins, but the team has yet to receive money back. Part of the delay is because the Dolphins and Williams recently have had discussions about him returning to the team. In Winslow's case, it is doubtful that the Browns would seek to recoup money unless and until it is determined that Winslow will never play for them again. In addition to the bonus money, Winslow could stand to lose another $1.48 million in 2006 salary if he fails to play in 45 percent of the team's offensive plays in 2005. There are similar incentives tied into the subsequent years of the contract through 2009. Notepad: Bobby Monica, head equipment manager of the Browns since they returned in 1999, has left the organization, according to a team source. To reach this Plain Dealer reporter: tgrossi@plaind.com, 216-999-4670 © 2005 The Plain Dealer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 From the Cleveland Plain Dealer:Notepad: Bobby Monica, head equipment manager of the Browns since they returned in 1999, has left the organization, according to a team source. To reach this Plain Dealer reporter: tgrossi@plaind.com, 216-999-4670 © 2005 The Plain Dealer. 327957[/snapback] WHAT? bobby monica is leaving? WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 WHAT? bobby monica is leaving? WTF? 327963[/snapback] Another monica head equipment manager blows it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailog80 Posted May 4, 2005 Author Share Posted May 4, 2005 Kevin Poston to the Brownies..." Kellen was never riding the motorcycle.....he was sitting on it to ease his leg, which is still healing, and the bike just took off and threw him over the handle bars. The "chosen one" never at any time had control of the bike. Which therefore does not violate his deal....now pay up." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Really hard to find a happy place in this story...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Kevin Poston to the Brownies..." Kellen was never riding the motorcycle.....he was sitting on it to ease his leg, which is still healing, and the bike just took off and threw him over the handle bars. The "chosen one" never at any time had control of the bike. Which therefore does not violate his deal....now pay up." 327988[/snapback] Bang has to bring back the three stooges. That was some funny stojan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udonkey Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Karma has a great sense of humor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udonkey Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 I just hope he gets his happy ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailog80 Posted May 4, 2005 Author Share Posted May 4, 2005 For the motorcycle. According to KFFL's source. My question is "IF" you supposedly have a clause in your contract forbidding riding motorcycles why do you need it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 He used it as ID to get into the Wonderlic testing center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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