MadBuffaloDisease Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Pure brilliance, as per usual, from Mike "I should STFU" Florio. So no team wanted to trade for Travis because TD disrespected them or, more ridiculously, someone else? Whatever Mikey. Bottom line is the teams who were interested took potential over proven production, and I hope the rookies get paid and then are mondo busts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 I'm not a TD fan, but acquiring Spikes was a good move. His loss definitely hurt the B'gals. BTW, they are going to convert their first rounder, David Pollack, to a LB. The expectation is that OLB Kevin Hardy will get the ax. FWIW, WR Peter Warrick may also get cut - too bad about him. Many fans here never warmed to him, but I liked him a lot. No word on his injuries that put him on IR a few games into last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SestakFan Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Donahoe has no leverage. But that didn't stop Donahoe from talking tough about the trade that never was, and likely never will be -- at least not on Tom's terms. "We weren't presented with very much, to be honest with you," Donahoe said after the draft. "We have to hear something that makes sense, other than somebody offering a player we don't want or somebody offering a late-round pick, which we're not going to do." Donahoe was at it again on Monday: "If not being offered anything is being greedy, then we were greedy," he said. "We were willing to discuss anything but somebody has to offer you something so that you can have a conversation." Said one league insider in response, "Can't this smug !@#$ shut up?" The source described Donahoe as an "egomaniac [who] will never learn his lesson about being disrespectful towards other people [and] decision-makers in the NFL." Perhaps Donahoe is still stinging from past draft-day trades, which included giving up a 2003 first-rounder in 2002 for Drew Bledsoe, and then giving up a 2005 first-rounder in 2004 for the guy who will replace Bledsoe after three mediocre seasons. But even in connection with the Bledsoe trade Donahoe talked tough, saying initially that he'd never give up a first-round pick for Bledsoe and then boasting that he would have given up two first-rounders for the former New England quarterback, whom Donahoe said he decided to acquire after seeing him throw against the wind in pregame warm ups (perhaps Donahoe should have withheld judgment until after watching tape of Bledsoe throwing against the wind -- and at the same time against coverage and a pass rush). The deeper problem seems to be that other league insiders don't appreciate Donahoe's public statements regarding trades and trade offers. Yeah, it's a competitive business, but there's a certain code of conduct when it comes to talking publicly, expressly or implicitly, regarding other front offices. At the core, its a matter of respect. Donahoe doesn't give it in situations like this, so as a result he rarely gets it from some of the most respected figures in the league. http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm 318897[/snapback] Try not to put too much stock in reports that quote "sources", and "league insiders". The writer probably tried to get TD to do an interview at some point, and TD may have told him to shove off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 That is the biggest steaming pile of dog sh-- I have ever read... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 The writer probably tried to get TD to do an interview at some point, and TD may have told him to shove off. 319048[/snapback] He has his own unpublished phone number at OBD. If you have that and call before his admin gets in, he answers the phone himself. If his admin is in, she just answers and asks for your name. If he's in his office, he always picks up - even if it's to say that you caught him at a bad time. Despite many fans without a clue and chuckleheads like Florio throwing around the arrogant and power-crazy label, the reality couldn't be farther from the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodnarb Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 you can't trust anything written on that website. he has always had it out for donahoe and has never said anything positive about him. He's exactly the same way about Nick Saban. Florio doesn't like a lot of the ESPN guys because he was snubbed by them. Donahoe is an ex-ESPN guy who's close with a lot of current ESPN guys like Mort and Salisbury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 I wonder if Florio and Sullivan are the same person.... hmmmmmm......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 While I agree with everyone here about Florio and PFT, in a cut-throat business with huge egos and huge money involved and reporters everywhere, it is virtually impossible to have everyone like you. I am sure there are guys around the league that hate Donohoe (team janitors could be "league insider", one of the most nebulous terms in the English language). I am sure there are "league insider" that hate Bellicheck and Parcells and Scott Pioli and Andy Reid and Ron Wolf and every other good, bad and ugly GM or coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobblehead Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 I'll put $20 down right now that there is no "inside source". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doza Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Saban has a lot of a-hole history behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobblehead Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 I see that Edgerrin James and Shaun Alexander are still on their teams, too. Are their GM's smug a-holes as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 I'd much rather have a GM with a reputation as a real ball buster than a push over any day. Being nice doesn't win Super Bowls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJ's Glove Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 On the other hand, the Bledsoe cap hit from Belicheck being forced to make the trade (BB correctly chose Brady over Bledsoe) resulted in NE being unable to replicate the cap casualty purchases which were a key to their 1st SB win and this team failed to even make the playoffs after an SB win (the fact they did win the SB once the Bledsoe cap hit was out of the way provides further indication that the cap acceleration of the dumb Bledsoe contract killed the Pats in 2002. 319007[/snapback] NE's problem in 2002 was the inability to stop the run. I find it hard to believe that Bledsoe's cap hit is responsible for that. Bledsoe had a high cap hit in 2001 also, even though he didn't play that much. BB didn't seem to have trouble messing around with the roster. It's not that Belichick couldn't find cap casualty guys to help out. It's that the guys he found (Victor Green, Steve Martin) underachieved and didn't help. The problem is the Patriots were a talented but not dominant team who played a bit over their heads in 2001. They won the SB ahead of schedule, so to speak. Everyone was gunning for them in 2002, and they simply didn't have the talent necessary to take on everyone's best every single week. That problem was fixed in 2003, but it's a real logical leap to claim Bledsoe's money was a factor. Again, Drew was a glorified benchwarmer in 2001 with a big cap hit. The team still managed to win with a lot of roster flexibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William The Conqueror Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 Try not to put too much stock in reports that quote "sources", and "league insiders".The writer probably tried to get TD to do an interview at some point, and TD may have told him to shove off. 319048[/snapback] Donahoe never says no to anyone with a microphone or a notebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loadofmularkey Posted April 26, 2005 Share Posted April 26, 2005 If I see the report came from Pro Football Talk, I immediately believe the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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