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Yep.  Exactly.  
 

 

Just now, Big Blitz said:

Expect Bill to be bumping threads from all over the place.  
 

This has been just a generational run of losing for him.  
 

Sad!

 


 

Russian hoax thread.  Check.  
 

Hurricane Helene for some reason.  Check.  
 

Expect the thread on Benghazi to be bumped soon.   

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5 hours ago, Homelander said:

We all know who is Daddy....

 

 

if you want to know how to properly deal with Homelander call it a bot, which I truly believe it is, and it will block you immediately. Once it blocks everyone it will be easy to filter actual useful info.

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And,  as this thread shows,  many of the lesser lights here still believe the lie.

 

 

THEY AREN’T RATIONAL PEOPLE: 

Miranda Devine: Shocking new poll reveals majority of deluded Dems still believe the Russia collusion hoax was real. 

 

“The fact that liberals and Democrats still believe in the hoax is likely a reflection of their preferred media outlets, such as the New York Times, which refuses to hand back its ill-gotten Pulitzers, and MSNBC, which pays discredited plotters such as former CIA director John Brennan and former Mueller prosecutor Andrew Weissman to act out their Trump derangement on air.”

 

More at the link: https://nypost.com/2025/07/13/opinion/miranda-devine-poll-reveals-majority-of-dems-still-believe-the-russia-collusion-hoax-was-real/

 

 

 

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On 3/5/2024 at 12:29 PM, ChiGoose said:

Look, obviously the Russia investigation was a hoax. There was no evidence or anything to suggest that Russia was trying to interfere in the election or that the Trump Campaign was open to or welcoming of help from Russia.

 

I mean, sure, Yevgeniy Prigozhin had Russia's Internet Research Agency (IRA) start targeting the US in 2014, and yeah, it created a bunch of accounts pretending to be US people and organizations, and Michael Cohen restarted negotiations on Trump Tower Moscow after an earlier attempt never materialized, and the IRA began organizing dozens of political rallies inside the US, and Trump signed a new letter of intent for Trump Tower Moscow with I.C. Expert, a company represented by Felix Sater, and sure, in 2016 the IRA began having its accounts support the Trump Campaign and disparage the Clinton Campaign, and members of the Trump Campaign and family cited, posted, and responded to posts from IRA-controlled accounts such as TEN_GOP, and during the campaign, Michael Cohen spoke to the personal assistant of Russia's press secretary Dmitry Peskov about Trump Tower Moscow, meanwhile the IRA was actually purchasing social media ads opposing Clinton and promoting rallies it organized within the US, around the same time the Russian Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff (GRU) hacked into the computers and email accounts of organizations, employees, and volunteers supporting the Clinton campaign, and then it hacked into the DCCC and DNC, stealing hundreds of thousands of documents, and then the GRU leaked stolen information from the Clinton Campaign to cutouts "DCLeaks", "Guccifer 2.0", and WikiLeaks, at the same time that Trump Campaign staffer George Papadopoulos was informed that the Russian government had dirt on Clinton in terms of thousands of emails, and Trump and campaign officials met with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak at a private event, while Paul Manafort (who had a history working with oligarch Oleg Deripaska to install friendly political officials where Deripaska had business interests but was embroiled in litigation after the relationship soured) told Risk Gates to provide Konstantin Kilimnik with updates on the Trump Campaign (including internal polling data) because he believed Kilimnik would share it with Deripaska, and then Roger Stone met with Henry Oknyansky (AKA Henry Greenberg) and Alexei Rasin who claimed to have information on Hillary Clinton, around the same time Michael Cohen accepted an invitation to travel to Russia and meet with Dmitry Peskov (and potentially Putin and/or Medvedev) before backing out of the trip, and then the GRU began targeting state and local computer networks and was able to compromise the Illinois State Board of Elections and gain access to a database of millions of registered Illinois voters, around the time that Emin Agalarov (son of oligarch Aras Agalarov) had Robert Goldstone contact Trump Jr. about incriminating info on Hillary, so Trump Jr. repeatedly told senior campaign staff that he had a lead on negative info about Clinton, after which Trump Jr., Paul Manafort, and Jared Kushner met with Goldstone, Natalia Veselnitskaya, and others at Trump Tower hoping to get dirt on Clinton, and Roger Stone told the Trump Campaign that he knew that WikiLeaks had the Clinton emails before it was public and he told Manafort that he was in contact with someone connected to WikiLeaks, and the GRU sent hacked materials to WikiLeaks which then released them three days before the Democratic Convention, and within hours of Trump's statement asking Russia to find the 30,000 missing Clinton emails, the GRU began targeting Clinton's personal office for the first time, meanwhile a senior campaign advisor for the Trump Campaign diluted a proposed amendment to the GOP platform supporting "lethal" assistance to Ukraine to only "appropriate" assistance, and Donald Trump posted about an IRA-organized political rally in Miami, and Dmitry Simes of the Center for the National Interest (CNI) provided Jared Kushner with information about Bill Clinton, around the time that Manafort met with Kilimnik who personally delivered a message from Vikto Yanukovych about a peace deal that would allow for Russia to control Eastern Ukraine, and Manafort told Gates that his work from the Trump Campaign would be a way to be made whole for his current issues with Deripaska, and then the GRU sent additional hacked materials to WikiLeaks, which then released them, and WikiLeaks began communicating directly with Trump Jr., providing him with info and a password for an anti-Trump website that was about to launch, and then, less than an hour after the publication of the Access Hollywood video, WikiLeaks released the first set of emails that the GRU had stolen from John Podesta, and in the lead-up to the election, the GRU gained access to the network of at least one Florida county government, and in November 2016, Kislyak met with Kushner and Michael Flynn at Trump Tower to discuss US-Russian relations and floated the idea of a secure communication link with the transition team, and Kislyak also set up a meeting between Kushner and Sergey Gorkov, head of the government-owned VEB who had a direct line to Putin, and after Putin met with his oligarchs, Russian oligarch Petr Aven attempted to meet with Kushner to establish a secret channel with the Trump people, and Carter Page (who had previously formed a relationship with Victor Podobnyy, a Russian intelligence officer working covertly in the US) traveled to Moscow telling people that he was still working on behalf of the Trump Campaign (even though he was no longer employed there). While in Moscow, Page met with Russian Deputy Prime Minister Arkady Dvorkovich who wished to connect with the Trump transition team, and in December 2016, when the US looked like it would allow a vote on a UN resolution against Israeli settlements, Michael Flynn contacted Kislyak to let him know that Trump opposed the resolution, and also Flynn called Kislyak to discuss sanctions imposed on Russia by the Obama administration, and George Nader arranged a secret meeting in the Seychelles between Erik Prince and Kirill Dmitriev (head of the Russian sovereign wealth fund), and later on Facebook testified that it had identified 470 IRA controlled Facebook accounts that had collectively made 80,000 posts reaching as many as 126 million people and Twitter testified that it had identified 3,814 IRA controlled Twitter accounts that had been in contact with 1.4 million Twitter users...

 

But aside from that, what evidence is there that warranted looking into Russian efforts to interfere in the election and/or the Trump Campaign's willingness to accept such help?

 

 

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