4merper4mer Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Paulus said: Really? A passport was left at the scene? That is comically convenient. Honestly, that makes me believe Iran had no part in this. Japan is not so sure, either... https://japantoday.com/category/national/japan-demands-more-u.s.-proof-that-iran-attacked-tankers I think the passport thing was a parody. I realize the article about the Japanese doubts was from sources and not anything official but IMO they can get bent. I have an idea. Run your own investigation. That way you don't have to trust anyone else or make accusations about the US or Israel. Are they the only other countries in the world that could have pulled that off did Japan pick them randomly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: I think the passport thing was a parody. I realize the article about the Japanese doubts was from sources and not anything official but IMO they can get bent. I have an idea. Run your own investigation. That way you don't have to trust anyone else or make accusations about the US or Israel. Are they the only other countries in the world that could have pulled that off did Japan pick them randomly. Well, Japanese PM Abe was in Tehran and the topic was peace with the US/Iran relationship, when the Japanese ships were attacked. You do have a point about Israel, but it is undeniable they have an interest in the region and have means, motive, and oppertunity to use tactics to deter peace between other middle east countries and the US. I myself wonder if this is related to China/Russia in any way. Seems like a stretch, but China is so much more of a player than the media and eggheads will admit, and Russia hasn't really been talked about here. Idk, they're always a player on the board. Happy the passport thing was a gag. *I am apparently overworked and have zero tolerance for others showing even an ounce of being human, let alone sarcasm. Have you ever dreaded work on Monday right after getting home on a Friday? Edited June 16, 2019 by Paulus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 The first casualty of war is the truth. The Taliban claimed an attack on U.S. forces. Pompeo blamed Iran ... https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../taliban-claimed-an-attack-us-forces-pompeo-blamed... 15 hours ago - Secretary of State Mike Pompeo included the May 31 bombing of a U.S. convoy in Kabulon a list of recent attacks carried out by Iran or its ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 More evidence of why a Green new deal is necessary. Big oil gets a giant subsidy from military protection. That's our taxes at work for big oil to burn up the planet. An oil war would really make a green new deal seem necessary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 I think the Iranian leadership is willing to get their asses kicked by a foreign power if it means they get to stay in power. The West becomes that unifying, faceless enemy. Never rule out the Saudis because they have the most to gain from Iran being knocked down a peg. I personally think they manipulated the chess pieces for 9/11 and the Libyan and Syrian boondoggles. Never rule out the Israelis because they have the most to gain after the Saudis, especially if it gives them the green light to bomb the nuclear sites and take the gloves off against all their proxy groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, dpberr said: I think the Iranian leadership is willing to get their asses kicked by a foreign power if it means they get to stay in power. The West becomes that unifying, faceless enemy. Never rule out the Saudis because they have the most to gain from Iran being knocked down a peg. I personally think they manipulated the chess pieces for 9/11 and the Libyan and Syrian boondoggles. Never rule out the Israelis because they have the most to gain after the Saudis, especially if it gives them the green light to bomb the nuclear sites and take the gloves off against all their proxy groups. Do you see any major interest for the US in this?? I don't, aside from oil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 30 minutes ago, Tiberius said: More evidence of why a Green new deal is necessary. Big oil gets a giant subsidy from military protection. That's our taxes at work for big oil to burn up the planet. An oil war would really make a green new deal seem necessary And yet physics and economics render it futile. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 18, 2019 Author Share Posted June 18, 2019 21 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Do you see any major interest for the US in this?? I don't, aside from oil It's obvious that you don't have a ***** clue. We don't need their oil. As the world's one super power (at least for a while) were looking to promote stability. Iran is the world's bad guy. They finance terrorism and have threatened the annihilation of Israel and The Great Satan. As long as we don't get another pusssy like Obama in the WH then Iran is not going to get nuclear weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: It's obvious that you don't have a ***** clue. We don't need their oil. As the world's one super power (at least for a while) were looking to promote stability. Iran is the world's bad guy. They finance terrorism and have threatened the annihilation of Israel and The Great Satan. As long as we don't get another pusssy like Obama in the WH then Iran is not going to get nuclear weapons. Lol, did you see they are enriching uranium again. Good job Trump. Obama literally got them to stop and incompetent Trump gets them moving towards nukes again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 18, 2019 Author Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: Lol, did you see they are enriching uranium again. Good job Trump. Obama literally got them to stop and incompetent Trump gets them moving towards nukes again. Your reading comprehension is zilch. Iran has come out and claimed that within 10 days they will have reached the limits of their allowed stockpile of uranium material. Looks like they've been enrichening it all along, as they were allowed to under the pusssy Obama deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-iran-says-not-negotiate-164700758.html So Iran is demanding that we all allow them to export 700,000-1.5 million barrels per day of oil, to be paid for in cash, and then maybe they'll talk to us about saving the nuclear deal, with no discussion to be had of their missile program... It's like they've gone full gator. Edited August 25, 2019 by Koko78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Koko78 said: https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-iran-says-not-negotiate-164700758.html So Iran is demanding that we all allow them to export 700,000-1.5 million barrels per day of oil, to be paid for in cash, and then maybe they'll talk to us about saving the nuclear deal, with no discussion to be had of their missile program... It's like they've gone full gator. ...I'm woefully confused....didn't Obama send them a hundred billion because they're our friends?...did I miss the memo?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 25, 2019 Author Share Posted August 25, 2019 39 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...I'm woefully confused....didn't Obama send them a hundred billion because they're our friends?...did I miss the memo?.... Actually he sent them 1.8 billion in cash on pallets and released about 150 billion of funds that we had frozen nearly 40 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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