2019 Wonderlic scores/Bob McGinn

[mcdamit]

6 hours ago, Turk71 said:

Now he has a torn labrum

yep

[DrDawkinstein]

Rashan Gary scored a 9. A freakin 9!

 

I didnt like him before and I certainly dont like him now.

 

But the Bills pick at 9, so it sounds like destiny to me. FML.

[Reed83HOF]

2 hours ago, BillsVet said:

 

I'm a firm believer in a team not falling back on letting the draft come to then.  In fact, McBeane have moved up or down for each of the 5 players picked in rounds 1-2  in '17 and '18. 

 

If they're not happy with what's available at 9, I'm sure they've war-gamed strategies and made calls about moving down.

 

“Let’s first talk about going down,” Beane said. “If you’re sitting at a position and you’ve got one guy sitting on the board when you’re getting close to being on the clock and you really like him and value how he fits where you are, first round, second round. If you trade down now you’re basically saying… you may as well trade down another round because if you trade four or five spots back the odds of that one guy being down there are not very good.

 

“If you have five to seven guys and somebody wants you to move back five to six spots, although it’s close, you still have a shot to get one of those guys you like. It really goes back to following your board.”

 

“Let’s just say you were at pick 25 and you have a guy in the top tier of your draft board. You think he’s top 10 (talent),” Beane said. “If you have a guy in the top tier by himself and you think he’s a rare impact player at his position, that might be the time to make a move up.”

 

“You have to consider what the cost would be,” said Beane. “First, is there a team willing to do it? And then what is the cost? Is the cost too much where it jeopardizes the rest of your draft or potentially future drafts?”

 

[BillsVet]

11 hours ago, Reed83HOF said:

 

“Let’s first talk about going down,” Beane said. “If you’re sitting at a position and you’ve got one guy sitting on the board when you’re getting close to being on the clock and you really like him and value how he fits where you are, first round, second round. If you trade down now you’re basically saying… you may as well trade down another round because if you trade four or five spots back the odds of that one guy being down there are not very good.

 

“If you have five to seven guys and somebody wants you to move back five to six spots, although it’s close, you still have a shot to get one of those guys you like. It really goes back to following your board.”

 

“Let’s just say you were at pick 25 and you have a guy in the top tier of your draft board. You think he’s top 10 (talent),” Beane said. “If you have a guy in the top tier by himself and you think he’s a rare impact player at his position, that might be the time to make a move up.”

 

“You have to consider what the cost would be,” said Beane. “First, is there a team willing to do it? And then what is the cost? Is the cost too much where it jeopardizes the rest of your draft or potentially future drafts?”

 

 

In terms of draft strategy I'll go based on actions, not words.  Exempting their moves to take Allen, Buffalo has traded down to pick Tre White and moved up 3 times for Zay, Dawkins, and Edmunds the past 2 drafts.   

 

I'm not saying they won't live up to what Beane is saying, although when it was said provides more context on this quote, which I don't have.  It's also unlikely that Beane is going to tell the NFL community how he approaches the draft.  He strikes me as too savvy to spell out his thought process.

 

There are other inputs toward what the Bills looking for in round 1? I tend to think the HC is going to pound the table for a defensive prospect because he's a conventional thinker and that won't be lost on Beane.  And, this draft features much more defensive talent at the top of the draft than offensive skill types.   

[Reed83HOF]

1 hour ago, BillsVet said:

 

In terms of draft strategy I'll go based on actions, not words.  Exempting their moves to take Allen, Buffalo has traded down to pick Tre White and moved up 3 times for Zay, Dawkins, and Edmunds the past 2 drafts.   

 

I'm not saying they won't live up to what Beane is saying, although when it was said provides more context on this quote, which I don't have.  It's also unlikely that Beane is going to tell the NFL community how he approaches the draft.  He strikes me as too savvy to spell out his thought process.

 

There are other inputs toward what the Bills looking for in round 1? I tend to think the HC is going to pound the table for a defensive prospect because he's a conventional thinker and that won't be lost on Beane.  And, this draft features much more defensive talent at the top of the draft than offensive skill types.   

 

Beane and the rest of the FO was not here in 2017, so Tre and that draft is not a valid example of how Beane moves in the draft. All we really have is last year's draft, to look at and try to see if he means what he says. I agree and I put more value into his actions over his words, right now all we have is words on how he views trade downs.

 

I wasn't trying to refute what you were saying, just trying to add the only comments I can find that relate to trade downs.