John from Riverside Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 Get us a Left Tackle.... I man....JESUS CHRIST.....look at what the premier LT's are getting? Look how much the SECOND TEIR guys are getting? I am starting to think that we should use our 2nd rounder and Travis Henry (if possible) and get up to get a guy who can start immediately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 Like who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 16, 2005 Author Share Posted March 16, 2005 That was quick Rich....you are on the ball today.. I think Barnes could start for us...I dont think he will make it to us at our 2nd round pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 Let's go with Peters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 JP came with a price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 Stay the course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 That was quick Rich....you are on the ball today.. I think Barnes could start for us...I dont think he will make it to us at our 2nd round pick 276927[/snapback] The reason why I asked that is because I've been told by so many 'experts' here that you cannot depend on a draftee to start on the offensive line. You just can't. That being the case, why would we move up to draft a backup? 'Experts', you wanna chime in on this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 Get us a Left Tackle.... I man....JESUS CHRIST.....look at what the premier LT's are getting? Look how much the SECOND TEIR guys are getting? I am starting to think that we should use our 2nd rounder and Travis Henry (if possible) and get up to get a guy who can start immediately 276924[/snapback] What do we have to offer? We have no first round pick, and in case you haven't noticed, nobody wants Travis Henry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 Let's just stay where we are and draft Nugent, then get a TE, a couple of WRs, and call it a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 Let's just stay where we are and draft Nugent, then get a TE, a couple of WRs, and call it a day. 276978[/snapback] LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What, no rbs nor qbs? C'mon, get yourself together, OK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What, no rbs nor qbs? C'mon, get yourself together, OK? 276984[/snapback] No RBs or QBs. I was thinking we'd get a backup K to Nugent and a backup P to Moorman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 No RBs or QBs. I was thinking we'd get a backup K to Nugent and a backup P to Moorman. 276996[/snapback] My mistake. As long as we dont go for blockers nor corners we should be in decent shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 My mistake. As long as we dont go for blockers nor corners we should be in decent shape. 277001[/snapback] Why would we do that? What do you think the coaches are here for? They'll coach these guys up and we'll be just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmacla Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 I usually dont post but enjoy the information and comedy here, but a quick thought, in alot of cases arent offensive linemen nobodies who become somebody when a team hasa winning record??? Also, wasnt Mc Nally the offensive line coach of the Giants when they went to the Super Bowl with a bunch of old cast off Offensive linemen including Glenn Parker and another year had a line with like 3 rookie starters and the Giants went to the playoffs??? I just think Jennings though a decent player wasnt worth the money and that a player can be developed in training camp to do the job its not always the big name players that excel, but coaching systems and techniques that make a line good. I would rather have lineman who are willing to learn and play asa unit then the "big name " free agent flavor of the month, to me go low cost alternative thats willing to learn and work on resigning our FA's for next year, there is enough talent to win on this team now its up to coaching and motivation and that falls on Mul;arkey and staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch19079 Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 i think the last thing we need is a ROOKIE Left OT. but i do think we can trade henry for a OT, and switch 2nd round draft picks with arizona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark VI Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 'Experts', you wanna chime in on this one? 276952[/snapback] Lets give Eagles OT Tra Thomas 30 Mil with a 8 Mil bonus. It's market value and we must not hurt his feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 I usually dont post but enjoy the information and comedy here, but a quick thought, in alot of cases arent offensive linemen nobodies who become somebody when a team hasa winning record??? Also, wasnt Mc Nally the offensive line coach of the Giants when they went to the Super Bowl with a bunch of old cast off Offensive linemen including Glenn Parker and another year had a line with like 3 rookie starters and the Giants went to the playoffs??? I just think Jennings though a decent player wasnt worth the money and that a player can be developed in training camp to do the job its not always the big name players that excel, but coaching systems and techniques that make a line good. I would rather have lineman who are willing to learn and play asa unit then the "big name " free agent flavor of the month, to me go low cost alternative thats willing to learn and work on resigning our FA's for next year, there is enough talent to win on this team now its up to coaching and motivation and that falls on Mul;arkey and staff. 277013[/snapback] Yes, you are right. He also coached the 03 Giants who gave up about a billion sacks. McNally is great. He proved himself to me, but to win in the NFL, teams need talented blockers, and players who can back them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 Haha!! And, he's not a rookie, so he can start for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shameless Homer Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 Someone hasn't been paying attention. It's a simple math problem. We won 9 games last year IN SPITE OF Bledsoe. He's gone. And we lost 7 games last year BECAUSE OF Bledsoe. He's gone. We now have JP Losman. That's an automatic 9 wins!!! And since it is JP Losman, it certainly is not too much to ask for us to win at least half of the other 7 games!!!! That's 13-3.!!! Who needs FAs? I say save the money!!! With Bledsoe gone FINALLY...automatic Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 I usually dont post but enjoy the information and comedy here, but a quick thought, in alot of cases arent offensive linemen nobodies who become somebody when a team hasa winning record??? Also, wasnt Mc Nally the offensive line coach of the Giants when they went to the Super Bowl with a bunch of old cast off Offensive linemen including Glenn Parker and another year had a line with like 3 rookie starters and the Giants went to the playoffs??? I just think Jennings though a decent player wasnt worth the money and that a player can be developed in training camp to do the job its not always the big name players that excel, but coaching systems and techniques that make a line good. I would rather have lineman who are willing to learn and play asa unit then the "big name " free agent flavor of the month, to me go low cost alternative thats willing to learn and work on resigning our FA's for next year, there is enough talent to win on this team now its up to coaching and motivation and that falls on Mul;arkey and staff. 277013[/snapback] Yep, that's the thing that all teams hope for. McNally has a good track record. He played for UB in the early '60's, and in addition to his accomplishments with the NY Giants, he was the line coach of some very fine Bengals OL's in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 We won 9 games last year IN SPITE OF Bledsoe. He's gone. And we lost 7 games last year BECAUSE OF Bledsoe. He's gone. 277027[/snapback] Good points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 I usually dont post but enjoy the information and comedy here, but a quick thought, in alot of cases arent offensive linemen nobodies who become somebody when a team hasa winning record??? Also, wasnt Mc Nally the offensive line coach of the Giants when they went to the Super Bowl with a bunch of old cast off Offensive linemen including Glenn Parker and another year had a line with like 3 rookie starters and the Giants went to the playoffs??? I just think Jennings though a decent player wasnt worth the money and that a player can be developed in training camp to do the job its not always the big name players that excel, but coaching systems and techniques that make a line good. I would rather have lineman who are willing to learn and play asa unit then the "big name " free agent flavor of the month, to me go low cost alternative thats willing to learn and work on resigning our FA's for next year, there is enough talent to win on this team now its up to coaching and motivation and that falls on Mul;arkey and staff. 277013[/snapback] Yep, that's the thing that all teams hope for. McNally has a good track record. He played for UB in the early '60's, and in addition to his accomplishments with the NY Giants, he was the line coach of some very fine Bengals OL's in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 16, 2005 Author Share Posted March 16, 2005 The reason why I asked that is because I've been told by so many 'experts' here that you cannot depend on a draftee to start on the offensive line. You just can't. That being the case, why would we move up to draft a backup? 'Experts', you wanna chime in on this one? 276952[/snapback] While I may know a few things about offensive linemen....I am not following the actually OL talent in this draft...... A couple of observations: - Yes I WOULD draft my LT replacement this year even if we end up going with our last option of sliding Tre Teague over to center - I would have this rookie start out at LG....play veterans around him.....and then move him to LT the following year - I would use my first 2 picks in this draft on OL....and I would go LT (moved to LG this year) and OC with my next available pick The reason WHY I MIGHT think about going LT with that pick is they are just becoming too hard to get ahold of...they cost a mint in FA....and that is if they are not franchised......get the guy in the draft that we want to be our LT THE NEXT YEAR...let him get experience playing at LG......sign him to a 5 year deal...... I am just throwing that out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 While I may know a few things about offensive linemen....I am not following the actually OL talent in this draft...... A couple of observations: - Yes I WOULD draft my LT replacement this year even if we end up going with our last option of sliding Tre Teague over to center - I would have this rookie start out at LG....play veterans around him.....and then move him to LT the following year - I would use my first 2 picks in this draft on OL....and I would go LT (moved to LG this year) and OC with my next available pick The reason WHY I MIGHT think about going LT with that pick is they are just becoming too hard to get ahold of...they cost a mint in FA....and that is if they are not franchised......get the guy in the draft that we want to be our LT THE NEXT YEAR...let him get experience playing at LG......sign him to a 5 year deal...... I am just throwing that out there 277079[/snapback] ->>>> Yes I WOULD draft my LT replacement this year even if we end up going with our last option of sliding Tre Teague over to center<<<< You mean sliding him to LT, right bro? Yeah, this would be the ideal scenario if possible. I am thinking that dealing Henry MIGHT be able to move us down perhaps 5, perhaps 10 spots in round 2. It is worth thinking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 It's tough to disagree with that. It seems fair. But, there are those who will tell you that there's no way any rookie OL will be any good for us. You don't need talent, John, all you need to do is ride the pines somewhere until you're no longer a rookie. Yeah, that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 16, 2005 Author Share Posted March 16, 2005 ->>>> Yes I WOULD draft my LT replacement this year even if we end up going with our last option of sliding Tre Teague over to center<<<< You mean sliding him to LT, right bro? Yeah, this would be the ideal scenario if possible. I am thinking that dealing Henry MIGHT be able to move us down perhaps 5, perhaps 10 spots in round 2. It is worth thinking about. 277088[/snapback] Yep....that is what I meant Bill..... Let us hope that Teague CAN SLIDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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